Jameis Winston
 

Screw it, seasons over, it's draft season.

This is our guy, he's gonna fall for off field stuff (don't care anyway, it's overblown). He fulfills both sides of cp. He's a winner, and he's a bad ass who's "clutch" (I hate that ****ing cliche so bad, but oh well).

Jameis Winston and Andy Reid in KC. Book it.

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Thoughts?

I'd give him a shot. He obviously has plenty of talent, but still probably has a whole lot of dumb ass moments left in him.

Talent rules everything though.

Yeah, why not.

I can see it now...

"Jameis Winston suspended for stealing stack of ribs from Jack Stack."

what about the 17 million dollar elephant?

just going to be the highest paid 2nd string QB ever?

Drafted QB's don't make as much as you think.

They can easily get out of that

They can? trade? I thought it was by a certain date or we are stuck with him?

YES!

It would be the correct move to make if the team commits to him clipboard holding until Smith's contract expires.

I don't care about off field atuff, if he legit cares about football. Get him a babysitter

There is about a 0.1% chance that Winston falls to 18.

I think they can cut him this year or next. **** I don't know, who cares.

He has plenty of time to get busted for something stupid again and hurt his draft stock.

Trade up.

Pull a "Bowe" on him? LMAO

You know he can rape :shrug:

I like the trade smith for RGIII idea, but I don't see it.

would take a lot to move up to draft the kid. I'm thinking a 3rd+next years 1st at the least.

I would love to have him, but I doubt it happens. This regime is tied to Alex :(

7 million saved off the cap if cut after next year.

Plus the silly cap numbers for the rest of the deal.

Jameis is absolutely worth every bit of risk. It seems unlikely he'll fall to 18 however.

But we all know deep down..he will. And sure enough, we'll pass on him. Some douche named Elway will trade up and grab and groom him and trade Osweiller.

Chiefs.

Winston will be gone at #2 IMO. I can't see the Titans passing him up.

is this guy going to be the new sanchez/geno?

You know me...sign me up for the "trade up for the best quarterback the draft class has to offer." group think.

Every year until we actually do it.

Then I'll call up the Chiefs and pay for 4 seats worth of season tickets.

I said as much in the draft forum. I don't want a dumbass (he is) who regresses from his freshman to sophomore year. And dumbass.

TOO RISKY?!











(Sorry Buehler, I had to break your balls) ;)

Yes. Welcome to the VIP.

He walks like he has a corn cobb up his butt.

No. And I'm a huge fan of his football talent.

But this guy is a sociopath.

He consistently puts himself in bad situations and makes the wrong choices. Always. Just like Manziel. Just... a ****ing reerun.

Its beyond shit like, "Oh he's young and silly." Justin Houston smoking before the combine? That was young and silly.

There's plenty of stories of business owners near FSU who had issues with him stealing or causing issues, in addition to the Publix crab legs.

The thing that stood out to me most... was when he was benched by Jimbo - BENCHED, when he is a returning Heisman-winner, vying for a 2nd Natl. Championship - and he still came out in his uniform:
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Granted, Jimbo tried to play it down... but seriously...

If you want him, hope that he plays like shit in the Semi-Final and gets caught with weed after the game.

Why not trade up to get Winston? He could prob throw a TD pass to a WR and create some excitement for KC!

That's exactly what I was looking for to say. I couldn't put it in words.

He's Ben Roethlisberger with a tan...on and off the field.

Would love it but it's not happening. What are we 18th?

Most dont think thats allowed based on the "he wasn't on the board when he drafted" shit that gets spun here.

If that ends up the case I'm in.

Dunno that id trade up. Historically, that hasn't seemed to work very well

I'd take Petty at 18 and sit him behind Smith a year or two. And that is probably riskier from a transition/skills perspective.

That and your mother is a whore. :D

For us, neither has trading down, standing pat, trading it for a player, nor trading it for a coach. I can't figure out what else to do with it.

He won't fall to us and we aren't trading up to get him.

This kid on the other hand....

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It might be too much of an ego boost to a kid with a big enough ego as is.

I've thought about that...but I'd trust Andy to help the kid mature.

He would be Andy's new and even better version of McNabb.

yep, the nfl is full of thugs and you dont care.....

Tannehill would have looked good in red.

By all means, let's keep the one that lead the vaunted 30 ranked passing attack

The last thing this franchise needs to do is take a risk. We need to go with a sure thing and get help for the OLine.

Matt Ryan as well.

Way too much possible downside. He could flame out spectacularly.

'member when Pioli took Donald Stephenson's shitty ass one pick before Russel Wilson in the 3rd round, because he didn't want to admit Cassel was a mistake?

Too risky!

Vince Young, Michael Vick, Jamarcus Russell, Geno Smith, and RGIII rolled into one.... Won't win shit... move around the league ..... Vanish

Any other black QB's you want to throw in there?

Don't know if you got them all.

Aaron Brooks seems to be one the racist always use.

Not going to happen. This kid has been more trouble in college than Manziel was. We don't have an administration that is interested in a trouble risk. We won't draft a QB high. Very possibly will take a high talent guy development guy in lower rounds.

Some of you guys are looking for a qb but Dorsey is not. WRs, OL, DBs, possibly another LB.

Sorry...Manziel will be on the over rated college to pros QB list too...

Well, no shit. We all know that Dorsey loves him some Smiff, this is a thread for dreamin'.

Dreamin' about something more than eleven yards in a two minute drill.

You know Im a dreamer, but Im not the only one.
Some day we'll have a QB worth a shit and CP can live as one.

I'm not in disagreement with you, but apart from a shot at an established franchise guy. And I didn't see the dreamin disclaimer in the opening thread line. Honestly, I would love it if they would just get a wild hair and see what Chase could do as the starter. I think He has the Drew Brees mindset.

He's probably not falling out of the top 6 unless he shivs someone.

But we might miss out on the next Jonathan Baldwin, Dee Ford or Eric Fisher.

I doubt it...

I'd say if he falls to us, grab him. He won't cost that much to give a shot at that point.

Alex would probably be a good QB for him to sit behind. Winston had way too many INT's this year...

I hope that Winston has immediate NFL success. I really do.

But my Spidey sense tells me he's going to have an uphill battle in the NFL.

I don't think he's a day 1 starter.

I'm a fan and I'd $3it my pants if we selected him but him starting day 1 is not a great idea. He needs to sit and learn...

Was that the same percentage that Rodgers fell to the Pack?

Rodgers wasn't a Heisman winning QB that currently is undefeated as a starter. Rodgers also had the stigma of being a Jeff Tedford QB. He was trying to overcome the Akili Smith, Joey Harrington, Trent Dilfer, David Carr, and Kyle Boller stigma.

Winston has a few off the field issues that may cause him to slip in the draft, but he won't fall out of the top ten. Personally, I think he ends up having a better career than Mariotta.

This guy won't be there after the 5th pick.

Yes, please.

NO.

Pass on Rapeis Winston.

Akili Smith was never going to pan out, Harrington would have been good if he hadn't went to Detroit, Diller won a Super Bowl (And should have stayed in Balt), Carr got shafted by going to an expansion team, and Boller was never THAT good.

I don't think he'll fall. He's going top five. There is just too much talent there not to take the risk.

2 to 1 that it happens.

I call BS on this one. I go up there cause my daughter attends FSU and I have yet to hear of this. It sounds like innuendo and gossip. Jameis is loved by his teamates. He's very enthusiastic.

His immaturity is obvious.

I don't care how insane his talent is.

Sit him and make him WANT it before he plays...

Did you know that Vick paid back everyone after he filed bankruptcy because in his words none of those people he was unable to pay at the time screwed him over? He didn't have to do that.

I can't put in words how stupid that is...

That he didn't have to do it but did, is pretty noble to me.