To the Herm haters.
 

I'm tired of all the blame going to Herm. Yes, Herm had his share of blunders but the amount of hate that he gets is ridiculous. The biggest mistake that Herm made was underestimating the impact of Jared Allen. And I did too at the time. In 2007, the Chiefs almost had a top 10 defense despite their terrible offense. We know what happened in 2008. But we are quick to forget the defense of 2007. I'm not saying the Herm was a great coach, but he is not as bad as some here believe.

Just to irritate you, lets take a look at what might have been if Herm had stuck around.

-First the acquisition of Cassell never happens. Herm sticks with Thigpen and Gailey runs the system that worked well in the latter half of the season.

-The switch to the 3-4 never happens and the Chiefs continue to run a 4-3 defense.

-Most likely, no notable free agents are picked up.

-Tony Gonzalez remains with the Chiefs.

-The draft rolls around and Herm takes the safe route as usual and picks the following players:

1. Aaron Curry
2. Everette Brown (Herm likes this pick bc of the desperate need for a pass rusher to replace Jared Allen who was lost in 07 and the success of another small DE Dwight Freeney with the Colts where his role model Tony Dungy coached.)
3. Antione Caldwell (Mal Moore leadership award winner is drafted here) Herm kinda player. And can play all line positions but primarily C or G.
4. Louis Murphy (Herm picks a wide out for the needed depth and Murphy provide some speed.)
5. Jasper Brinkley (Tough middle linebacker probably starts.)
6. Andrew Gardner (RT tackle pushes or replaces McIntosh)
7. Captain Munnerlyn (CB and returner)
7. Ricky Jean-Francois (depth at DT)
7. Ryan Succop K


And to top it off. After speaking with Tony Dungy about Michael Vick, who has been mentoring Vick, Herm trusts Dungy and decides to give Vick a shot at backing up Tyler Thigpen.


Would all of this happened... probably not, but it is interesting to think about what might have been if Herm and Carl would have stayed. Again, I don't think Herm is great and I definitely don't think Carl was good, but I do wonder what might have happened. I do like the draft above much better than our current one, and I do like that we still would have Tony G.

NEW TOPIC: Anybody here like Mega Man?

**** Herm.

































and **** you.

Haha. You obviously took a lot of time and effort to write out how you feel, but nobody's going to read shit you wrote and just call you a reerun for defending Herm.

Congrats on accomplishing absolutely nothing.

This!

If you want to immune Herm for the pathetic shit we are dealing with now.. Then go ahead, try to tell yourself it is okay..

But you can go **** yourself with a wooden spoon.

ONly a few hate HErm the PersoN. MoRe disLike U.

ROFL

that's my goal with posting is to accomplish things. We all get a whole lot done around here. look how productive all the posters are on here! keep up the good work!!! ROFL

Herm is on ESPN, who cares

Herm failed at being able to manage a game, not in acquiring talent.

The guy won 6 ****ing games as a head coach in two seasons. That would be enough to get Bill Parcells fired.

How many times were you dropped on your head as a baby. bubb?

Do your parents wipe the drool off your face still?

JFC, you are a dumbass.

Sadly, you make Herman ****ing Edwards almost look smart by comparison.

Well, I accomplish epic wins at the internet and funny in general; so yes, some of us do accomplish things on CP.

You = Epically failtacular to the nth degree of fail.

Oh...and FWIW.....Herm would have kept Barth and not drafted Succop. And we wouldn't have the third 7th round pick. And we probably wouldn't have drafted Curry...instead grabbing an OT with the #3 pick and moving Albert inside to Guard.

Wrong again. Herm said he would have taken Curry on ESPN.

:rolleyes:

Love Mega Man.

I was a late bloomer onto the series. Never played it as a kid. Then while I was in college, I downloaded an SNES emulator and tried out Mega Man... Beat it. Loved it.

Think I ended up playing through the 1st 3 of them or so.

That is why Herm is on ESPN and not a HC in the NFL... He cant destroy franchises on ESPN, He can talk his stupid bullshit, but the effects are people wearing out mute buttons not the total destruction of an NFL football team...

Can someone just Old Yeller this MF so they can put him out of his misery?

Herm led this team to 6 wins in 2 years yet losers like this want to defend him?

****ing hilarious.

Oh to stay mediocre instead of building a championship team! Come back Carl and Herm!!!

Ha, the biggest mistake that Herm made was underestimating Jared Allen?

Really?

It's amazing, isn't it?

We have people here defending Herman ****ing Edwards, ****her, and even Carl at one time.

I mean, I hated Marty, but I can see how people would defend him, but these three idiots is incomprehensible.

Thigpen isn't tall enough to be a SB winning QB. Herm is the wrong color to be a SB winning coach. Carl is too reeruned to put together a SB winning team. I like our odds better now. We need to take chances that Herm couldn't take, and the 3-4 defense has a greater success rate than the Tampa Two.

Why is this ****ing idiot still in the green?

:spock:

7. Captain Munnerlyn


Cool name. ROFL

Well, I can't speak for anyone else.

But I very rarely give out neg rep, and I never give out neg rep for football opinions, even when they are as idiotic as these.

This should warrant a ban.... I think we should all report this post as offensive and abusive to the intelligence level of the board and its members...

As a whole, I think rep is ****ing stupid.

I agree.

I didn't defend Herm. But I do like how the team would look personnel wise with how he would have drafted than what we have currently. I like the 4-3. I don't like the 3-4 with our current personal.

I like Gailey's old offense and if given the option, I would rather focus on improving the defense with a pass rusher and some linebackers and improving the offensive line rather doing what Pioli and Haley did.

Even with Herm's poor coaching, I bet the 2009 Herm and Carl Chiefs would be better and closer to the playoffs than the Pioli and Haley Chiefs.

You can't win the superbowl if you aren't in the playoffs.

Considering your in the Green? Yes it is stupid! ROFL



Kidding of course...

dude can play. did you ever watch south carolina play?

:eek:

The impeeding shit storm that is about to be unleashed is going to be priceless to watch...

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=208217

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=210988

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=199159


Thorazine fever, catch it!

With Carl and Herman ****ing Edwards running things, if you think you see a team that's close to a SB, then it's an illusion.

You can't get to a SB if you're too ****ing stupid to mange a clock, and if you are too ****ing stupid to find a real coach, but rather go out and spend a 4th round pick on a failed coach.

I do. I want to see him buried somewhere nobody would ever find him.

Yes but only Herm is capable of spending two time outs on one play.

Did you read your post?

Tell you what, I'll let the free market speak for me; Herm Edwards will never head coach another NFL game in his life.

That's exactly how good he was.

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All points for Herm are null and void, because I can't seem to remember any player actually getting better while he was coaching them here. That really isn't the recipe for making improvements from year to year.

LOL even if all that were to have happened, The Chiefs would still suck ass for years to come.

Whos smurf account is this?

Are you mental? You didn't defend Herm?

****ing loon.

that is ****ing reeruned

Dude do you remember Herm's only appearance in the playoffs as KC's coach?It was a focking embarrassment,especially coming off the win against the Jags where he pulled out every stop and then said as much so in his postgame presser.

He almost won me over with that and then he focking goes and embarrasses the hell out of the frachise the very next week...in the PLAYOFFS.

Our roster now is already better than it ever was under Herm.

**** you hard up the ass with a broken bottle.

Every scenario you mention SUCKS.
Thigpen and Vick?
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No way this thread should get close to the bottom of the first page...

This should be stickied!

FYP

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This

Neither does Pioli which is why he took Jackson and Magee and brought in Vrabel and Thomas. He can't rebuild the team in one year. The rest of Herm's players will be released and/or traded next year.

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The Chiefs don't have personnel for any defense at this point 4-3 or 3-4.

LMAO I never get sick of that.

You play to win the game! ROFL

Is that a Boba Fett Production? That is seriously brilliant.

He did get the Chiefs to the Playoffs 1 out of the 3 years he was here. job well done.

Did you duck as you typed that?

:evil:

Thats what I was told over and over and over again about the Jets. he did the same thing with the Chiefs. he did a great job..lol

To be honest, I'm tired of talking about him. he's finally been exposed as a fraud. even he knows it now. but his state of denial was borderline Psychotic. I don't think he has both ores in the water.

"How to lose friends and make enemies" - by this thread starter

Good god that would have been pathetic if they had done that. Sure attendence won't be that great this year, but if they had kept Herm you'd likely be the only one at the games.

Oh boy..........

Yea and the players he drafted to replace the old players sucked. So did the free agents he signed to replace those veterans.

this has to be a joke. no one is dumb enough to both love Herm and want Vick over Cassel

You're really defending an NFL Head Coach who managed exactly 6 wins in two seasons?

Wow...

He's done exactly nothing noteworthy in his career.
I'll never get why people stick up for him.
He's lost 20 more games than he's won as an HC in this league.
Seriously...

Herm isn't a good enough coach to execute a master plan

Surely you jest. You just don't give a dunce like Herm more and more time. He isn't even smart enough to use the internet.

I think calling Herm a dunce is going to easy on him

They had to gut the stadium after Herm left. They still aren't sure they got the stench out.

ROFL I read the first couple of lines. After the Michael Vick thread yesterday and now this, my thoughts are "this kcbubb must be a real dumb ass".

ok, that is pretty ****ing brilliant

I made that in like...October? It was in the germ warfare thread.

well kudos, i hadn't seen it...

Given a competent front office, Herm would have been a 9-10 win coach. Which is good but not great. People who say he was worthless and incompetent are ridiculous. Nobody denies that Peterson ****ed this team up. Nobody denies that Vermeil let this team get ridiculously old. Nobody denies that this team whiffed on 10 straight drafts before Herm came into KC. And yet nobody wants to suggest that maybe Herm inherited a pretty poor situation that made it really difficult to win games.

I'm pretty excited about the Haley regime. I just feel bad it had to go down this way for Herm. He inherited a shitty team and despite Herm's constant insistence that the team needed to rebuild, our stubborn shithead of a GM resisted at every turn. We are mostly in the situation we are in now because of Peterson's mismanagement.

This.

Did you watch the games? Herm gave games away. Who the **** plays a close style game while ignoring the QB position, Special teams, and Field Goal kicker. That was Herms doing.

Both San Diego Games were great examples of Herm giving the game away. I mean his stupidity in "game situations" is un-paralleled. Non to mention he coddled players, and they weren't ever ready for the season.

No, sadly Chiefzilla has always been 2 inches from Herm's cock.

LMAO

LMAO

YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME!

ROFL I can't get enough of that.

yep another ghey thread

I never said he was a great gameday coach. In fact, I've said many times that it would probably be the thing that always kept him from being anything more than a 1-and-done playoff coach.

But it says a lot that he was able to keep the game close with a pretty shitty talented team that had shitty talent mostly through no fault of his own.