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Rain Man 01-21-2019 04:24 PM

The New York Times is not a fan of this weekend's games.
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/21/s...sK7L_lKP_lxHXY

Selected excerpts include:

...the league’s bounce-back season was knocked off stride on Sunday, as officials in the two conference championship games made baffling, controversial calls that to some degree overshadowed the otherwise thrilling matchups.


The A.F.C. championship game in Kansas City got off to a controversy-free start. But as the Chiefs battled back from a first-half deficit against the New England Patriots, another officiating decision, midway through the fourth quarter, brought the game to a halt. It came when the Chiefs scored a touchdown after Patriots receiver Julian Edelman, serving as the team’s punt returner, appeared to have touched a punt that Kansas City then picked up and took into the end zone.

But after a lengthy video review, the referees determined that the ball never hit Edelman, even though replays suggested that it might have just barely nicked his thumbs.


Chiefs fans, meanwhile, were also aggrieved by a roughing-the-passer call on a second-and-7 in the fourth quarter after defensive lineman Chris Jones landed a seemingly innocuous slap on Brady’s shoulder as he made a throw. But a 15-yard penalty was enforced, and the Patriots went on to score one of the go-ahead touchdowns that punctuated the last part of the game.

As exciting as they were, Sunday’s two games left some fans feeling that asterisks should be affixed to the final scores, a sentiment that may tarnish some of the positive signs for the N.F.L. this season.

Much of the renewed interest comes from a bevy of young stars, like quarterback Patrick Mahomes of the Chiefs, and a bunch of scoring records that fell faster than you can say “Brady to Edelman.”

Donger 01-21-2019 04:26 PM

I couldn't believe the Brady roughing call. I actually laughed, because I thought it was a joke call, or something.

milkshock 01-21-2019 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 14061584)
I couldn't believe the Brady roughing call. I actually laughed, because I thought it was a joke call, or something.

that is exactly what it was

Pointer19 01-21-2019 04:30 PM

I like your use of colored text.

Rain Man 01-21-2019 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pointer19 (Post 14061599)
I like your use of colored text.

Thank you. I often do that to show that it's a quote and not my own writing. Given that the excerpts were from different parts of the article, I thought that using different colors would be both clarifying and stylish.

Donger 01-21-2019 04:32 PM

LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">please send Tom Brady your prayers after this violent roughing the passer penalty <a href="https://t.co/5Zt5S0TKo9">pic.twitter.com/5Zt5S0TKo9</a></p>&mdash; Grant Goldberg (@GrantGoldberg) <a href="https://twitter.com/GrantGoldberg/status/1087174069970075649?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 21, 2019</a></blockquote>
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keg in kc 01-21-2019 04:36 PM

Mahomes gets beat up all game, and then they call that. It was so bad even Andy talked about it during his presser today.

displacedinMN 01-21-2019 04:37 PM

Neither is Wilbon-ripping the refs and the NFL. He is the only reason I am watching now.

Skyy God 01-21-2019 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 14061615)
LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">please send Tom Brady your prayers after this violent roughing the passer penalty <a href="https://t.co/5Zt5S0TKo9">pic.twitter.com/5Zt5S0TKo9</a></p>&mdash; Grant Goldberg (@GrantGoldberg) <a href="https://twitter.com/GrantGoldberg/status/1087174069970075649?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 21, 2019</a></blockquote>
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That clip makes me very angry.

WWNFL, man.

George Liquor 01-21-2019 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 14061637)
Neither is Wilbon-ripping the refs and the NFL. He is the only reason I am watching now.

Yeah he is. Glad I tuned in.

wazu 01-21-2019 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 14061610)
Thank you. I often do that to show that it's a quote and not my own writing. Given that the excerpts were from different parts of the article, I thought that using different colors would be both clarifying and stylish.

It's pretty brutal in dark mode.

displacedinMN 01-21-2019 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 14061615)
LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">please send Tom Brady your prayers after this violent roughing the passer penalty <a href="https://t.co/5Zt5S0TKo9">pic.twitter.com/5Zt5S0TKo9</a></p>&mdash; Grant Goldberg (@GrantGoldberg) <a href="https://twitter.com/GrantGoldberg/status/1087174069970075649?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 21, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Wilbon called it 15 yards for coughing on Tom Brady

Rain Man 01-21-2019 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 14061649)
It's pretty brutal in dark mode.

Oh, I think it's beautiful. It's like fireworks.

T-post Tom 01-21-2019 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 14061615)
LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">please send Tom Brady your prayers after this violent roughing the passer penalty <a href="https://t.co/5Zt5S0TKo9">pic.twitter.com/5Zt5S0TKo9</a></p>&mdash; Grant Goldberg (@GrantGoldberg) <a href="https://twitter.com/GrantGoldberg/status/1087174069970075649?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 21, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Bowser 01-21-2019 05:02 PM

As pissed as we are today, rightly or wrongly in regards to the refs, could you imagine being a Saints fan right now and dealing with that lack of a pass interference call? Absolutely brutal.

suzzer99 01-21-2019 05:33 PM

Shame on the NYT for calling that muffed punt play a TD by the Chiefs. It was never going to be a TD for us.

Oh Snap 01-21-2019 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 14061584)
I couldn't believe the Brady roughing call. I actually laughed, because I thought it was a joke call, or something.

Romo and the officiating guy they have from NY both said that was a bad call on TV. The ref that threw the flag was behind the play and shouldn't have thrown it unless he had a clear view, and it was conclusive. It wasnt. Meanwhile they missed a roughing the passer call on mahomes earlier in the game where a defensive player actually did put his arm into mahomes facemask.

The muffed punt was already called on the field as a muffed punt. The replays were not conclusive enough. Edelman made a football play on the ball which was stupid to begin with after calling for a fair catch. We went onto intercept Brady for the second time afterwards so that kinda evened out the bias reffing.

Dee ford lining up in the neutral zone was a back breaker.

Nzoner 01-21-2019 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 14061584)
I couldn't believe the Brady roughing call. I actually laughed, because I thought it was a joke call, or something.

What makes it worse is the non call on Mahomes earlier in the game,start this video at 1:37 to see that play :#

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Marcellus 01-21-2019 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 14061726)
As pissed as we are today, rightly or wrongly in regards to the refs, could you imagine being a Saints fan right now and dealing with that lack of a pass interference call? Absolutely brutal.

I cant think of a worse non call in the history of me watching the NFL, and then to think of the ramifications of such a bad **** up.

Wowza.

I talk to my brother on the phone every game-day during the season and I have said maybe 30 times in the last 2 years the NFL has to fix this shit. But mainly I was complaining about refs making questionable calls in key moments and affecting games on borderline shit, not non calls.

I've never seen a more blatant non call. Ever.

You are a multi billion $ industry, get the shit fixed. Call only obvious shit and call the obvious shit.

stevieray 01-21-2019 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 14061726)
As pissed as we are today, rightly or wrongly in regards to the refs, could you imagine being a Saints fan right now and dealing with that lack of a pass interference call? Absolutely brutal.

PI AND helmet to helmet.

Marcellus 01-21-2019 06:04 PM

The roughing call was on 2nd down, I have hard time getting too pissed ass they likely convert 3rd and 7.

Nzoner 01-21-2019 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 14061726)
As pissed as we are today, rightly or wrongly in regards to the refs, could you imagine being a Saints fan right now and dealing with that lack of a pass interference call? Absolutely brutal.

I have family that are diehard Saints fans,in fact I'm flying to Louisiana tomorrow,should be a fun week,we can cry on each others shoulders LMAO

stevieray 01-21-2019 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Nzoner (Post 14061945)
I have family that are diehard Saints fans,in fact I'm flying to Louisiana tomorrow,should be a fun week,we can cry on each others shoulders LMAO

LMAO

RetiredSeniorChief 01-21-2019 06:19 PM

The NFL got what it wanted: 2 teams from 2 coastal mega city large markets. Congratulations to the NFL for not being stuck with 2 small market teams in its biggest show.

Nzoner 01-21-2019 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RetiredSeniorChief (Post 14061989)
The NFL got what it wanted: 2 teams from 2 coastal mega city large markets. Congratulations to the NFL not being stuck with 2 small market teams in its biggest show.

Shhhhhh....such talk like that in the wrong threads can get you banned LMAO

Nzoner 01-21-2019 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 14061979)
LMAO

Talked with one of them a bit ago,he said he's done with the NFL :D

RedRaider56 01-22-2019 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 14061649)
It's pretty brutal in dark mode.

yes it is. The blue text is especially hard to read

007 01-22-2019 05:56 AM

Hey Rain Man, would you mind changing the color to something other than dark blue on the first paragraph? Thats a pain to read for dark mode users.

Hannah Barbarian 01-22-2019 06:01 AM

No mention of Berry grappling Gronk? Especially in the light of later JC Jackson's ticky tacky DPI?

Ah it's New York Times. Ok then

SuperBowl4 01-22-2019 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 14061584)
I couldn't believe the Brady roughing call. I actually laughed, because I thought it was a joke call, or something.

rigged

SuperBowl4 01-22-2019 06:09 AM

Time to revisit Marv Levy's "You've been bought" clip on YouTube - "What it takes to win is simple, it's not easy" - Marv Levy

scho63 01-22-2019 06:33 AM

I think your thread title is off. They sound like they really liked them but hated the officiating.

VAChief 01-22-2019 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hannah Barbarian (Post 14062865)
No mention of Berry grappling Gronk? Especially in the light of later JC Jackson's ticky tacky DPI?

Ah it's New York Times. Ok then

Or Gronk pushing off to create separation later with no call.

Sassy Squatch 01-22-2019 08:54 AM

Statement from the Saints owner. It's quite a bit longer than this but this is the most pertinent part.

Yesterday’s result is still difficult to accept for all of us. I am thoroughly disappointed by the events that led to the outcome of yesterday’s game. Getting to the Super Bowl is incredibly difficult to do and takes such an unbelievable commitment from a team and support from its fans. No team should ever be denied the opportunity to reach the title game (or simply win a game) based on the actions, or inactions, of those charged with creating a fair and equitable playing field. As is clear to all who watched the game, it is undeniable that our team and fans were unfairly deprived of that opportunity yesterday. I have been in touch with the NFL regarding yesterday’s events and will aggressively pursue changes in NFL policies to ensure no team and fan base is ever put in a similar position again. It is a disservice to our coaches, players, employees and, most importantly, the fans who make our game possible. The NFL must always commit to providing the most basic of expectations - fairness and integrity.

VAChief 01-22-2019 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14061939)
The roughing call was on 2nd down, I have hard time getting too pissed ass they likely convert 3rd and 7.

Except it was pressure and he got hit. It wiped the slate clean. Yeah, you never know how they would react, but third and 7 is a hell of a lot better than first and 10 and fifteen yards for free.

VAChief 01-22-2019 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 14061726)
As pissed as we are today, rightly or wrongly in regards to the refs, could you imagine being a Saints fan right now and dealing with that lack of a pass interference call? Absolutely brutal.

Absolutely, they overlook that play yet, Dee Ford's fingers over the line gets called.

Nzoner 01-22-2019 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14063112)
Statement from the Saints owner. It's quite a bit longer than this but this is the most pertinent part.

Yesterday’s result is still difficult to accept for all of us. I am thoroughly disappointed by the events that led to the outcome of yesterday’s game. Getting to the Super Bowl is incredibly difficult to do and takes such an unbelievable commitment from a team and support from its fans. No team should ever be denied the opportunity to reach the title game (or simply win a game) based on the actions, or inactions, of those charged with creating a fair and equitable playing field. As is clear to all who watched the game, it is undeniable that our team and fans were unfairly deprived of that opportunity yesterday. I have been in touch with the NFL regarding yesterday’s events and will aggressively pursue changes in NFL policies to ensure no team and fan base is ever put in a similar position again. It is a disservice to our coaches, players, employees and, most importantly, the fans who make our game possible. The NFL must always commit to providing the most basic of expectations - fairness and integrity.

Props to him and get ready for more game delays as challenging PI calls will soon be a new rule.

Rain Man 01-22-2019 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hannah Barbarian (Post 14062865)
No mention of Berry grappling Gronk? Especially in the light of later JC Jackson's ticky tacky DPI?

Ah it's New York Times. Ok then

Note to the social worker or relative who reads to this person: he is apparently interested in learning what the article says, so would you please read it to him, explaining any large words?

kcpasco 01-22-2019 10:01 AM

Props to the Saints owner. Clark should have said something after the Rams game that was a complete ass ****ing from the officials.

kcpasco 01-22-2019 10:03 AM

That pass interference was 100x worse than anything that happened in our game. How refs aren’t fired over that is a complete ****ing joke.

Rain Man 01-22-2019 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 14061643)
That clip makes me very angry.

WWNFL, man.

The frustrating part is that the official who made that call ignored a much stronger slap to the face of Patrick Mahomes II just five minutes earlier.

I didn't gripe much about the Mahomes hit because it was minor and in real-man football it wouldn't warrant a penalty. But if you're going to give Tom Brady a free drive because the wind from someone's arm changed the air pressure around him, then you should also call a guy hitting Patrick Mahomes II in the face.

It's unfortunate that we're not getting a Super Bowl this year. This is going to be like the Peyton Manning Super Farewell Exhibition Bowl a few years back.

Frazod 01-22-2019 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14063112)
Statement from the Saints owner. It's quite a bit longer than this but this is the most pertinent part.

Yesterday’s result is still difficult to accept for all of us. I am thoroughly disappointed by the events that led to the outcome of yesterday’s game. Getting to the Super Bowl is incredibly difficult to do and takes such an unbelievable commitment from a team and support from its fans. No team should ever be denied the opportunity to reach the title game (or simply win a game) based on the actions, or inactions, of those charged with creating a fair and equitable playing field. As is clear to all who watched the game, it is undeniable that our team and fans were unfairly deprived of that opportunity yesterday. I have been in touch with the NFL regarding yesterday’s events and will aggressively pursue changes in NFL policies to ensure no team and fan base is ever put in a similar position again. It is a disservice to our coaches, players, employees and, most importantly, the fans who make our game possible. The NFL must always commit to providing the most basic of expectations - fairness and integrity.

I expect this to be the NFL's response:

Greater Los Angeles population: 18.79 million
Greater New Orleans population: 1.45 million

And they might throw in this as well:

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