FSU DT Brandon Fiske
Anyone checked him out? Transfer from Western Michigan to FSU. Listed at 6'5" 300 lbs and looks really athletic. 12 sacks the last 2 seasons. Dominated at WMU and had a really nice year at FSU this year.
Could be a really nice prospect to replace Chris Jones if he leaves. He's older (5th year Senior) actually turns 24 tomorrow but that isn't a bad thing. His age and only 1 year of starting for a power 5 could put him in range for us in the 1st. <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/_GL5FNomOnA?si=H_wg8bn8KQltcO3Z" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe> <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/ofc8V-X_rgc?si=rRZXiJpE1MvL_Pl4" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe> |
24 year old first rounder? Nah no thanks.
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He isn't going 1st round. I'd say 3rd is most likely.
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Also I did a breakdown last draft season of the ages that Veach has drafted. He mainly drafts 21-22yo's, and an occasional 23yo, I dont think he's drafted any 24yo's. He focuses on younger guys that he can get a rookie contract out of and maybe a second contract before they hit 30.
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I do think we'd probably have to take him in the 2nd if we wanted him. Or engineer a trade-up in the 3rd. But I don't think we have the draft capital for that sort of thing. Was it Dane Brugler that had us taking Newton out of Illinois? Because I could see a scenario where I'm on board with that. The draft has the possibility of going like it did last year when there really just was a big ol' pile of equal talent sitting there - none of it really 1st round caliber. In that case, Newton could very easily be the best raw talent on the board. And there's almost certainly going to be a need there. Feels like he could easily be Ed Oliver here. |
If we have that again with our first rounder....it'll make it more palatable for people to understand trading it for someone.
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How did a draft that looked to be setting up so incredibly well at about pick 20 turn into a dumpster fire by the time it got to us? Man that was painful. But hey, the broken road led to Rashee Rice so we're all good here... |
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Just like it'll work out fine when we have Justin Jefferson and no first rounder for 2 years. |
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I haven't finished my next mock yet, but I have eyes on Darius Robinson from Mizzou in round 2 now that he declared.
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I might look at him in the 3rd, but I can't see talking myself into Robinson in the 2nd. |
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Brugler had Robinson at the very end of the second in his most recent two round mock.
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I mean I guess that means he's a Spags DE in some ways. But I don't see a 300 lb guy with his relative stiffness being a defensive end at the next level. And I've never seen him truly excel as a pure interior player. On paper he measures similar to Chris Jones but I don't see near the burst that Jones demonstrated. Honestly, he may be best served as a 3-tech in an odd front. I see Gervon Dexter as a similar sort of prospect but I think Dexter was far more explosive. |
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With Jones, it took him a couple of seasons in the weight room to get to be the powerful guy we see now. He was more powerful than Robinson is coming out but we are talking a borderline/should have been 1st rounder compared to a borderline 2nd/3rd guy. There's going to be a little drop off. I think Robinson has to get bigger. He's lighter than the listed 295, for sure. probably 280-285. |
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I feel like I'm warming to Fiske in the 2nd.
I could talk myself into OT in the first, Fiske in the 2nd, WR in the 3rd (though we're probably past the pocket of immediate contributors at WR at the back of the 3rd so I may have to pivot to TE or IOL here). That said, I don't think he's on Veach's radar in the 2nd. I just don't see him taking a 24 yr old prospect that early. |
Just ran a 4.78 40 at 6’4 292 lbs. Elite vertical and broad jump as well
I know he’s 24 but goddamn does it look like this guy is gonna be good |
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But Maason Smith, though... |
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Braden Fiske is a DT prospect in the 2024 draft class. He scored an unofficial 9.92 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RAS?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RAS</a> out of a possible 10.00. This ranked 14 out of 1620 DT from 1987 to 2024.<br><br>Splits projected, with correction for height<br><br> <a href="https://t.co/sVG8zrUGAN">https://t.co/sVG8zrUGAN</a> <a href="https://t.co/yulxl3XLUT">pic.twitter.com/yulxl3XLUT</a></p>— Kent Lee Platte (@MathBomb) <a href="https://twitter.com/MathBomb/status/1763314668381036616?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 29, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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RAS is reeruned.
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Yeah he looked ridiculously quick. I liked him as a 3rd round guy, doesn't seem likely now.
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The real question is, do I care how fast a DT ran at the Underwear Olympics? No, not really. It's flashy, it's nice. What I care about though is if he beats guys on tape because he sure as **** isn't running a 40 against the fatass across from him is he? Fiske's worst trait is what will get him punished in the NFL, and that's immediately exposing his chest to the offensive lineman. He has everything else you want though, quickness off the ball, closing burst, decent hand usage (needs improvement too) if he can figure that component out.
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I thought he played with his pads too high. A TON. He was always coming upright out of his stance and I thought that would kill him at the next level. It...did not. So these days I'm a little wary about seeing a DT w/ a good motor and good measurables who has iffy technique and saying "Eh, can't translate at the next level..." Because that's how we ended up getting a HoF caliber player in the mid 2nd. (Then again "I can fix him!" has gotten as many coaches/executives fired as it's gotten girlfriends beaten up. So there's also that to consider) |
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It's an interesting debate I think. |
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Does Fiske's impressive testing show up on tape?<br><br>YEP <a href="https://t.co/JzDHa1GxMg">https://t.co/JzDHa1GxMg</a></p>— Dane Brugler (@dpbrugler) <a href="https://twitter.com/dpbrugler/status/1763318370953228431?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 29, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Fiske is a bigger Calijah Kancey to me. And Kancey was really good last year. Hurt his calf and wasn’t able to be healthy until week 6 but then put up 4 sacks in 12 games and set a record for most pressures in a game by a rookie in 5 years.
These guys are just way too fast for OL man. Especially G’s. I get that he’s 24 and has short arms (Lancet’s were shorter), but man this guy would kick ass here. He’s gonna be really good |
Nice day for Fiske, standout athlete!
Robinson was the slowest of all DEs, but would have been a high performer if he'd gone with the DTs. |
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He's definitely moving up the board for round 2.
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I'm a fan! lol not exactly sure what to make of this guy, he's the least athletic looking yet most athletic DL in the draft. The Wolf tat solidifies my interest, love this dudes style lol
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