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TLO 09-19-2021 09:24 PM

Let's talk about the LA Chargers ( Week 3)
 
We're on to the Chargers, and our first noon game of the season.

stumppy 09-19-2021 09:25 PM

NO! Not right now.

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-19-2021 09:26 PM

Too soon, we need time to grieve and vent!

Deberg_1990 09-19-2021 09:26 PM

Start McKinnon over CEH

chiefswillriseup 09-19-2021 09:28 PM

Probably another shootout, and we should expect that for every game this season with this defense

Pitt Gorilla 09-19-2021 09:29 PM

Well, we certainly won't be complacent. That has to help.

RollChiefsRoll 09-19-2021 09:31 PM

**** those bastards.

thechiefsrback 09-19-2021 09:32 PM

so much for the 17-0 talk. glad the loss is out of the way. On to the LA.

Chargers are dangerous and this defense needs to be much better.

Mecca 09-19-2021 09:33 PM

I can't wait to see them run it 40 times.

TribalElder 09-19-2021 09:33 PM

same records

playing for second place

TLO 09-19-2021 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 15844057)
same records

playing for second place

Thankfully second place doesn't matter in week 3.

ShowtimeSBMVP 09-19-2021 09:35 PM

Austin Ekeler Is gonna have a Career day

TLO 09-19-2021 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP (Post 15844080)
Austin Ekeler Is gonna have a Career day

Maybe.

TLO 09-19-2021 10:29 PM

Chiefs open as 8 point favorites.

New World Order 09-19-2021 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15844050)
I can't wait to see them run it 40 times.

Ekeler left, Ekeler right, Ekeler up the gut

wazu 09-19-2021 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 15844554)
Chiefs open as 8 point favorites.

Wow. The only thing that would be a more certain bet than Chargers +8 would be to bet on whatever the over is.

crayzkirk 09-19-2021 10:40 PM

Too soon...

BF88 09-19-2021 10:47 PM

This is gonna be the easiest game for the Chiefs this season. Chargers looked like garbage against Dallas.

Their new shiny toy Justin Herbert has a fetish…it’s called throwing INTs in the red zone. Let’s take advantage of that and put this to bed.

A win by less than 20 would be disappointing in my book.

Flying High D 09-20-2021 04:36 AM

^ Didn’t the Rudders make the Ravens look like shit?

Flying High D 09-20-2021 04:37 AM

At least Vert Reach won’t have to wait for the SB to know what to focus on next offseason.

TEX 09-20-2021 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flying High D (Post 15844848)
At least Vert Reach won’t have to wait for the SB to know what to focus on next offseason.

Yep.

TEX 09-20-2021 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flying High D (Post 15844847)
^ Didn’t the Rudders make the Ravens look like shit?

At crunch time. The Ravens had that game in hand and blew it in the end of regulation. Lost it in OT.

TEX 09-20-2021 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BF88 (Post 15844634)
This is gonna be the easiest game for the Chiefs this season. Chargers looked like garbage against Dallas.

Their new shiny toy Justin Herbert has a fetish…it’s called throwing INTs in the red zone. Let’s take advantage of that and put this to bed.

A win by less than 20 would be disappointing in my book.

As terrible as the Chiefs defense is, they're not beating anybody by 20 points.

dannybcaitlyn 09-20-2021 06:06 AM

Chargers offense will throttle our defense. Herbert can actually make the throws that Lamar Jackson couldn’t.

Dunerdr 09-20-2021 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn (Post 15844915)
Chargers offense will throttle our defense. Herbert can actually make the throws that Lamar Jackson couldn’t.

That may actually play into our favor.

Flying High D 09-20-2021 06:58 AM

Anything is better than a handoff against this D.

comochiefsfan 09-20-2021 07:02 AM

Will Reid let the dogs out of the cage?

If so, we win easily. If not, expect another nail biter.

Chris Meck 09-20-2021 08:40 AM

If they don't get some things fixed on that defense, we're going to get smoked.

ThaVirus 09-20-2021 08:48 AM

This will be a tough one.

I'd expect more of what we've been seeing from our defense this season. The Chargers have a retooled OL that's looked prettt good thus far. Ekeler will smoke us on the ground and through the air. Keenan Allen will be open a lot. Mike Williams will probably torch us for at least one deep 50/50 ball. We have no one capable of covering a massive Jared Cook. It'll be rough.

The only saving grace I can see is a possible Herbert mistake. He could definitely throw an INT or two.

I expect to see some urgency from the offense. The loss last night should have clued everyone in that it's the strength of our team and we'll need to win shootouts.

BleedingRed 09-20-2021 08:51 AM

Everyone saying Dallas shit on them need to take into account the following:

Dallas has 3 MLB's we would take in a instant. They also have some decent D-Line. They are MUCH better suited to stop the run than us. We need Gay back in the worst way.

TLO 09-20-2021 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 15845186)
If they don't get some things fixed on that defense, we're going to get smoked.

We're 8 point favorites for a reason.

Rainbarrel 09-20-2021 08:58 AM

He may get ejected for popping a pimple. Worse than spitting.

mr. tegu 09-20-2021 09:08 AM

I was thinking we would lose a game to the Chargers prior to the season starting and after watching the defense so far I’m definitely still of that mindset. Herbert is good and can make most throws but we will win this one since it’s at home. It will be close though.

I’m actually shocked at the 8 point spread. I think that line is an overreaction to how the Chargers looked yesterday. They had some bad and unfortunate red zone plays that you can’t really count on. I’ll definitely be on the Chargers here.

smithandrew051 09-20-2021 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 15845186)
If they don't get some things fixed on that defense, we're going to get smoked.

Naw. The worst case is a close loss. With the exception of the Super Bowl, that’s been the story of every loss with Reid/Mahomes.

We don’t get blown out.

Dunerdr 09-20-2021 10:01 AM

I just got Tix, cant ****ing wait even though we just suffered a loss. Rebound games make me HORknee.

ToxSocks 09-20-2021 10:10 AM

I praised the Chargers last week.

But this week vs the Cowboys, holy shit were they back to Chargering again. Dumb penalties, turnovers, figuring out ways to lose.

They're not a team that's ready for big games and big moments. Dallas and L.A were both going off with explosive plays and both would follow it with some dumb turnovers/plays/penalties.

MahomesMagic 09-20-2021 10:38 AM

Mahomes seems to be annoyed by people elevating Herbert too high.

Let's roll them.

Dunerdr 09-20-2021 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15845430)
I praised the Chargers last week.

But this week vs the Cowboys, holy shit were they back to Chargering again. Dumb penalties, turnovers, figuring out ways to lose.

They're not a team that's ready for big games and big moments. Dallas and L.A were both going off with explosive plays and both would follow it with some dumb turnovers/plays/penalties.

It really makes you wonder if some issues really are from the top down? Theyve had similar problems for years.

Coochie liquor 09-20-2021 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP (Post 15844080)
Austin Ekeler Is gonna have a Career generational day

Fyp

Gary Cooper 09-20-2021 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 15845215)
We're 8 point favorites for a reason.

Only 1 out of their last 10 wins was by more than eight points. That was the AFC Championship. The rest were all closer. This team doesn't blow opponents out.

TEX 09-20-2021 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JudasRising20 (Post 15845738)
Only 1 out of their last 10 wins was by more than eight points. That was the AFC Championship. The rest were all closer. This team doesn't blow opponents out.

Yep. Not with that defense.

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-20-2021 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 15845478)
Mahomes seems to be annoyed by people elevating Herbert too high.

Let's roll them.

Herberts first 16 games were pretty damn good. He's the real deal. The AFCW is gonna be fun for awhile.

TEX 09-20-2021 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 15845186)
If they don't get some things fixed on that defense, we're going to get smoked.

Yep.

Gary Cooper 09-20-2021 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 15845757)
Yep. Not with that defense.

That's a big part of it. Another is Reid's lack of killer instinct. Even if the other team is completely unable to stop us, he will change the play calling to be more conservative. He did that yesterday to some extent by running those stupid delayed draw plays on 1st down.

InChiefsHeaven 09-20-2021 12:54 PM

I'm driving down for this one, so we better win. In fact, I'm calling ahead to Patrick and Andy and let them know that we better win cuz 3 hours down and 3 hours back, 60 bucks to park and like 120 for the ticket is a lot so we better win or I'll be mad. I might write a tersely worded post on CP if we don't. We better win. We better.

That ought a do it...

Pasta Little Brioni 09-20-2021 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 15845207)
Everyone saying Dallas shit on them need to take into account the following:

Dallas has 3 MLB's we would take in a instant. They also have some decent D-Line. They are MUCH better suited to stop the run than us. We need Gay back in the worst way.

They had a MLB playing D line...and the Cowboys defense is pure dogshit but Hebert had some costly turnovers

Hammock Parties 09-20-2021 01:04 PM

WE ARE NOT LOSING TO THE GODDAMN CHARGERS

Pasta Little Brioni 09-20-2021 01:05 PM

I tried telling people that the Ravens weren't some layup game. People saying all week we are going to blow out a team that's competitive week in and week out on the road is pure foolish. Now I will say we are overreacting the other way and should be able to win this game by a score. Chargers aren't there yet.

Deberg_1990 09-20-2021 01:06 PM

Chiefs get everyone’s best game

Chiefs 31
Chargers 27

BleedingRed 09-20-2021 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 15845872)
They had a MLB playing D line...and the Cowboys defense is pure dogshit but Hebert had some costly turnovers

They used a MLB who is good at rushing the passer to rush the passer!?!?

Seriously,

Parson/LVE/Misc.

Currently better than hitchens.

Hell, if LVE becomes a free agent we need to pick up the phone.

Pasta Little Brioni 09-20-2021 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 15845890)
They used a MLB who is good at rushing the passer to rush the passer!?!?

Seriously,

Parson/LVE/Misc.

Currently better than hitchens.

Hell, if LVE becomes a free agent we need to pick up the phone.

Cowboys defense is pure dogshit. Doesn't change that fact

Rainbarrel 09-20-2021 05:19 PM

Ezekiel Elliott and Tony Pollard combined for 180 yards on the ground and another 56 yards in the air. The Bolts did not struggle just in-between the tackles but in covering the running backs in the passing game as well. - la chargers, sounds french

Bump 09-20-2021 05:33 PM

If CEH doesn't come in this game fired up with a chip on his shoulder than he has to be benched. But as long as they do better play calling and let Mahomes win the game, we'll destroy the Chargers because you know they are pissed off and that has to be scary for the Chargers.

smithandrew051 09-20-2021 05:39 PM

Until the defense proves otherwise, I think the offensive philosophy needs to change. Pedal down all game. Don’t let up until it’s mathematically impossible to lose. Can’t trust the defense until they prove you can.

We gave up one that should’ve been a win. Attempting to control the clock late didn’t work. Run the ****ing score up until it doesn’t matter.

TLO 09-20-2021 05:39 PM

If we lose this game... Maybe then I'll hit the PANIC button.

TLO 09-20-2021 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 15846400)
Until the defense proves otherwise, I think the offensive philosophy needs to change. Pedal down all game. Don’t let up until it’s mathematically impossible to lose. Can’t trust the defense until they prove you can.

We gave up one that should’ve been a win. Attempting to control the clock late didn’t work. Run the ****ing score up until it doesn’t matter.

I like this plan.

Dayze 09-20-2021 05:42 PM

Chiefs 64
Chargers 61

R8RFAN 09-20-2021 05:53 PM

Chargers Pissed, they are gonna light yall up like Baltimore did

Sassy Squatch 09-20-2021 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8RFAN (Post 15846426)
Chargers Pissed, they are gonna light yall up like Baltimore did

Bruh, you're trying WAAAY too hard right now.

MMXcalibur 09-20-2021 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8RFAN (Post 15846426)
Chargers Pissed, they are gonna light yall up like Baltimore did

Will you be making your annual trip back here at mid-season to wonder where (once again) it all went wrong for the Raiders?

R8RFAN 09-20-2021 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15846430)
Bruh, you're trying WAAAY too hard right now.

You should be 0-2 right now

New World Order 09-20-2021 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8RFAN (Post 15846436)
You should be 0-2 right now

Shut the **** up. You know we're going to end up winning the division again.

Sassy Squatch 09-20-2021 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8RFAN (Post 15846436)
You should be 0-2 right now

That's nice, dear.

TLO 09-20-2021 06:00 PM

Don't feed the troll

comochiefsfan 09-20-2021 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 15846448)
Don't feed the troll

Eh he deserves to troll. He's 2-0 and our defense and coach were a complete embarrassment last night.

He'll be singing a different tune in a few weeks.

tredadda 09-20-2021 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 15844899)
As terrible as the Chiefs defense is, they're not beating anybody by 20 points.

This team doesn't bury anyone anymore. Even if they can, they won't . Just don't see them winning by 20. We will be fortunate to cover the spread.

R8RFAN 09-20-2021 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 15846592)
This team doesn't bury anyone anymore. Even if they can, they won't . Just don't see them winning by 20. We will be fortunate to cover the spread.

Yall score too damn fast

tredadda 09-20-2021 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8RFAN (Post 15846596)
Yall score too damn fast

And then go through mind numbing lapses where we score nothing and let teams back into it.

TEX 09-20-2021 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 15846592)
This team doesn't bury anyone anymore. Even if they can, they won't . Just don't see them winning by 20. We will be fortunate to cover the spread.

Yep. Because all any team has to do is run the football. This year's defense is Bob Sutton defense bad.

R8RFAN 09-20-2021 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 15846598)
And then go through mind numbing lapses where we score nothing and let teams back into it.

They are not scrubs and I think they have a good defense. Just a bump in the road but I am still sure you all should win the west this year unless that defense falls apart completely. If Hill is doubled it goes to Kelce, If Kelce is doubled it goes to Hill. Personally I am sick of seeing it ROFL

tredadda 09-20-2021 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8RFAN (Post 15846608)
They are not scrubs and I think they have a good defense. Just a bump in the road but I am still sure you all should win the west this year unless that defense falls apart completely. If Hill is doubled it goes to Kelce, If Kelce is doubled it goes to Hill. Personally I am sick of seeing it ROFL

Oh, I don't doubt this team wins the West and should have the #1 seed again along with being the favorites to win the SB. They just stop trying for stretches at a time before turning it on at the end. That worked last year, but at some point it will bite them, like last night. The other team's defense is irrelevant to me as this team has shown the ability to score on anyone when they want/need to. They just won't bury teams. We won the SB by 11 more because of Williams breaking a long TD run than Andy going for the kill shot.

Coochie liquor 09-21-2021 05:10 AM

Faders fans always seem to forget that they’re called the Faders for a reason. It’s like clockwork every single year. Win a couple early games, then by mid season they fade in out.

srvy 09-21-2021 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainbarrel (Post 15846362)
Ezekiel Elliott and Tony Pollard combined for 180 yards on the ground and another 56 yards in the air. The Bolts did not struggle just in-between the tackles but in covering the running backs in the passing game as well. - la chargers, sounds french

AFC west division game it will be a dogfight, they always are. We opened with the Browns a physical game and had to go to Rat Bird town for another physical team. The chiefs are going to need to harden up and buck up.

crayzkirk 09-21-2021 09:59 AM

AFC West battles are always tough; not expecting the Chargers to shoot themselves in the foot two weeks in a row.

Can't pick yet, still too emotional about the poor play of the defense. It wasn't just the poor tackling, there were receivers uncovered all over the field. Dump off passes with no red in the same zip code. This looks a lot like 2018 except teams aren't playing the Chiefs the same way on defense.

Allowing teams 100% TD rate in the red zone is scary.

RunKC 09-21-2021 11:28 AM

I think we win. We’re going to be playing at home angry

smithandrew051 09-21-2021 11:44 AM

The schedule seemed front loaded at first but now looks more backloaded.

We’re fully capable of rattling off 6 wins in row before the schedule picks up.

After that, we get Aaron Rodgers, Raiders twice, Cowboys, Chargers, and Steelers. Even the Broncos look better than expected.

The Division will be decided in the final 8 weeks when we have 5 divisional games.

tredadda 09-21-2021 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15847193)
I think we win. We’re going to be playing at home angry

If we need that to win, then there are more issues with this team.

Wallcrawler 09-21-2021 11:51 AM

I suspect Andy will forget how good we are against the weakness of the Chargers D, and attack the strength of the defense instead, with the game in tbe balance. Hope it works out.

I can see Andy playing those old school arcade machines, where the bosses always had that flashing, color changing weak spot that sticks out like a sore thumb, and ol Andy just thought the game screen was malfunctioning and ignored it completely.

I do hope that if the game happens to be close, that someone on that sideline will remind him we arent paying PM half a billion dollars to hand off to scrubs with the game on the line.

This is seriously the same mother ****er that went with ALEX SMITH throwing the ball to studs like Junior Hemingway over handing the ball to Jamaal Charles.

Now this asshole, with the best qb and receivers in the game, wants to handoff. You cant make this shit up.

TLO 09-21-2021 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 15847223)

Now this asshole, with the best qb and receivers in the game, wants to handoff. You cant make this shit up.

This narrative was stupid when people were overreacting after the loss Sunday night and Monday morning. It's even more stupid now.

Shoes 09-21-2021 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 15847230)
This narrative was stupid when people were overreacting after the loss Sunday night and Monday morning. It's even more stupid now.

It's insufferable. The same individuals would be whining if Reid called a pass and a receiver dropped it causing a clock stoppage. It's what you do to burn clock, run the ball. I'm down on CEH's ability as a running back overall, but it was his first career fumble in the NFL. Freak plays happen (just like the Mahomes INT earlier that night).

People need to shut the **** up and move on, we're fine. Be upset at the run defense.


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