How is climate going to change where you live?
 

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Came across this today thought it was pretty cool

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oh shit, this convinces me!!!!!

Please don't disappoint CP

Same as last year. And the year before and before that.

KC is going to feel like Dallas. That sucks.

Don't care, I'll be dead

This is great! Is there anyway we can speed up climate change? I'd like the value of my midwestern property to increase in value. I don't want to wait until 2080. Maybe if we can ensure by say 2050 the climate of Kansas City will be closer to that of Houston - that would be fantastic.

I'm a big fan of climate change and global warming in particular. Especially since melting the ice caps will drown the coasts forcing people to move inland - in turn increasing my midwestern property values.

I’m gonna go out on a limb and predict it will still be hot as **** most of the time here.

No change for Olathe

No worries for me!

I fail to see the downside....if anything we need to encourage climate change sooner to prevent all the people from freezing to death each year!

https://issuehawk.com/wp-content/upl...al-800x495.jpg

In 60 years? Who cares.

Chaos, Nothing new under the sun. Put it in a videogame as fiction and we're ready to have fun with it.

:popcorn:

Looks like Dallas is a major problem. LMAO

I’ll be dead and creamated. Other people’s issue.

All you people that think youll be dead by then will be really disappointed when modern medicine has us living until we are 200

Nah. They figure out a way to put my brain in a vat before medicine can get me to 200. By then Ill be a quasi robot and it can be hot as **** anyway. Robots dont sweat

Do you have kids?

Do you care about kids?

So, for instance, it doesn't matter who gets your inheritance? Might as well give it to Uncle Sam because it is somebody else's issue?

No reason to own life insurance? If you die, it doesn't do you any good does it?

Snore

It snowed yesterday. It was 20 something today and rainy. Two weeks ago the wind chill was -10... Bring me some Mississippi winters to Annapolis.

My city will be under water by 2015!

Bail Bail Bail

I'm moving to a house with an A/C that doesn't suck complete ass so I'm good.

It'll be the same temp as Evansville Indiana.. thrilling.

ROFL I bet you are right.


I will be 128 years old so probably won't care about the increase of 7 degrees and 25 percent less rain.

Yeah, a few diesel pickups seem bad but China and India are the real problems. No worries though, Obama was going to give them until 2030 to address it.

The Sun is entering a solar minimum. Cooling is the more likely issue to worry about.

****ing climate change... Weather is the same now as it's been for the past 40 years by me. Don't know about you all. Just got a foot of snow. It's cold. Things are jolly good. Emissions are no more environmentally impactful than they were then. I imagine in 40 years it'll still be the same, not 6.2 degrees warmer as this shit predicts.

It will be cooler in the winters and hotter in the summers. Pretty much like always.

Except our magnetosphere is also still the weakest it has been in recorded time.

I just checked, the rocks at Rudee Inlet appear to be just as above water as they were in the 80s, so whatever happens, it won't be the seas rising and flooding Lee's Summit.

EDIT: It looks like we might get another 12" of Global Warming snow this weekend...

It says I'll be cooler and wetter.

My climate changed from cold, shitty and freezing rain to colder and shitty with no freezing rain.

But apparently yesterday was the coldest day on record in which we received freezing rain while the moon was in Sagittarius, and as a result government funded scientists have determined that we're all going to die in 2080 unless we disconnect all electronic devices and stop eating meat.

Climate taxation..
People really believe in this nonsense?
Morons

The Thermosphere is getting thinner and that's a concern: https://www.express.co.uk/news/scien...ther-nasa-news

Why aren't coal powered vehicles a thing?

I predict that by 2050 Chiefsplanet will be powered by pure methane gas.

I wish this global warming thing would hurry the freak up.

We set records for both cold AND snow this year.

I harken back to a day when we were promised snow was a thing of the past.

Just . . . the idiocy. The sheer idiocy.

ITT: people saying snow on the ground proves global warming ain't real!

Yip.

In 1980 there were 410,000,000+ registered motor vehicles globally.
In 2016 there were 1,322,000,000+ registered motor vehicles globally.

Your opinion is that the emissions by 410,000,000+ vehicles have the same effect that 1,322,000,000+ vehicles have?

Can you please elaborate on why you hold this opinion?

I wouldn’t be surprised if 10 newer cars put out less emissions than 1 from 1980.


I am only guessing though.

From the EPA, CO2 has only gone up 18% in the US from vehicles in that time.

https://www.epa.gov/transportation-a...transportation

And that is double the number of cars

That is about my view. I've never liked the idea of life insurance - that someone profits off of my death. Don't think I could ever trust someone that much.

As far as inheritance. You don't owe anybody anything. Use it all up before you die. Don't understand the people who work until they are 75, die with millions to their name.

But of course - I don't have kids so that is easy for me to say.

Sometimes the stupidity around here amazes me but then again my own brother is an idiot when it comes to this stuff so I'll just blame Fox News and bounce, shaking my head.

Meanwhile a Russian city is overrun with polar bears because of the ice breaking up.

They just grow up to be people, and people are assholes. So, no.

Some of them grow up to be strippers and do porn. It’s not all bad.

In North Dakota, we once had a climate that resulted in coal, as in a warm climate, huge vegetative growth, swamps, etc. And we once had a climate where we had a 1-2 mile thickness of ice on the land. Now that’s climate change!

Because there's never been polar bears in Russia before...

You guys here make fun of anybody that thinks the earth isn't 5 billion years old but then you believe that 180 years of weather data, out of that FIVE BILLION YEARS, is a relevant statistical sample.

Maybe, I don't know, stick to science instead of government funded propaganda.

Sticking to science, that's the way one denies climate change. Okay, genius.

Typical response. Not interested in debate, interested in imposing your view on everyone else. Sound familiar?

yeah I'm not interested in debating climate change. There's no debate. One side is right, the other side clings to nonsense for monetary selfishness.

I'm glad you've seen the error of your ways.

In cases like this you should really investigate the motivations of people telling you "nothing's happening, nothing's wrong, it's just a liberal invention because ~reasons~" Nobody WANTS climate change to be real. Nobody WANTS that nearly impossible task of reducing co2. But it's going to be nearly impossible to accomplish WITHOUT numbskulls coming in and telling you it isn't even real. Meanwhile my brother, a chemical engineer at a Phillips plant in North Texas of all places is in the process of overhauling their plant to attempt to create fossil-free fuel sources.

Phillips Petroleum. In Texas. Believes in climate change. You idiots.

And all those giant round rocks that keep appearing in fields? They're from Canada.

Yeah it's easy not to get excited about crazy predictions being made as the result of man's effects on climate when you can see just how much the effects of real climate change can be.

What's the debate though?

It's either real, and we should take care of the environment, or it's not, so..... **** the environment?

And even if the impact down the road is overblown... how could taking care of pollution be a bad thing? :shrug:

First off, are you talking about pollution, or CO2?

Second, if you're talking about 'taking care of' CO2, there are plenty of ways that efforts at reduction can impose 'bad.'

Energy is our lifeblood. Human capacity to harness energy to productive ends is the single biggest factor in our contemporary quality of life, as well as health and longevity.

There are mechanisms for harnessing energy that involve no emission of CO2, but at present and for the foreseeable future, CO2 emission is part of the most efficient, effecitve and affordable way of providing reliable energy to mass populations.

I am all for progress. I am all for finding newer, cheaper, more efficient, more reliable methods of energy producting, harnessing, and transmission.

But moving beyond our current understanding without a new understanding to replace it at the same price will incur severe costs. Some will just be belt tightening. Some will be marginalizing. Some will be deadly.

People like to think that the 'climate change debate' is between deniers who oppose progress and advocates to support progress. But the true 'debate' is between the laws of physics and our understanding of them. Harnessed energy is a powerful tool for human comfort, productivity and achievement, but it is slavishly bound to the laws of the universe that we can only understand, not bend, not erase, not ignore.

This is exactly what I think. What's wrong with taking out an insurance policy?

Dude, I was being a smartass. I’m 8.5 feet above sea level right now. Property is on the water. My son is probably going to do way better than myself so he’s going to upgrade.

I have lawyer written wills and trusts ready to go if I bite the dust.

I don't think anyone is arguing to rush and change ALL energy production for newer cleaner and potentially dangerous alternatives right this second. But having a plan in place and developing that technology should be.

Because it's less about taking care of the environment and far more about fleecing taxpayers to the benefit of these "green" companies, the filthy rich globalist scum that back them, and the obedient leftist politicians that shove it down our throats.

Pro tip: "Green" doesn't actually refer to the color of the ****ing grass.

So make a plan and develop the technology.

And some industries, like coal and petroleum, will do everything in their power to remain relevant as long as possible. Including spreading disinformation and lobbying congressmen and women. Acting like it isn't happening so we can keep strip-mining, drilling and perpetuating coal and natural gas industries is ridiculously short-sided. Ending our reliance on fossil fuels benefits this country in ways that both Republicans and Democrats can appreciate.

But you're going to have to excuse me for being angry about it when Trump waltzes in and assigns a climate change-denier as the head of the mother ****ing EPA and he predictably shits the bed. See that's going backwards.

Then you look at a company like VW that is overhauling their entire fleet to be electric and that's the kind of bold risk-taking that is necessary.

Minneapolis is supposed to feel like Kansas.

Does that mean we get the Chiefs???

Is that the same VW that recently got fined a billion dollars for programming their cars to fudge the emission numbers?

Bold leadership for the future, there. LMAO

It has been developed and could be implemented somewhat already.

That incident is what prompted the change. They completely changed leadership, made Herbert Diess their CEO and then this happened...

https://ca.reuters.com/article/topNe...CN1PV0K4-OCATP

With ice core data, scientists can determine the climate hundreds of thousands of years ago. Why do you think that doesn't constitute science? Do you really believe NASA is in the propaganda business?

https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

Energy companies have been fighting it for a long time now...

Well, they're sure as **** not in the space business anymore. Nice to know they're keeping busy doing something.

If only we could find a way to make those icky rockets green, maybe our astronauts wouldn't need to hitchhike into the space with the Russians.

The central point is a Catch 22.
It's not the 'the market' fixes everything.
But the argument from advocates is that there is consensus and there is demand and there is capability.

If those three things are in fact the way advocates represent, there is no barrier to a free market explosion from private interests providing a need.

But advocates also argue that this must be done by government because the market is incapable.

This argument stems from two strains of thought.

First is that the existing energy industry has a false monolopy and is somehow stopping energy entreprenualism. This is largely the land of unfounded conspiracy, and to the extent it actually is accurate is actually a function of the lack of demand at an alternative price point.

The second is the dire predictions that we are too far gone for anything but swift and determined universal action. But the solutions don't face that head-on. No one is seriously proposing a return to horse and buggy, or international compulsion, or population restriction or culling.

Everyone wants a cheap, painless path to avert destruction without changing anything we personally find important. And they think if they make government take care of it, government will come up with a way to make OTHER PEOPLE pay the painful part.

I'm not sure what you mean.

Here's NASA's current list of projects they're working on: https://www.nasa.gov/offices/pae/ipao/reviews.html

More stupid Fish shit...