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Trent Green GOAT 01-28-2021 09:06 AM

Deshaun Watson requests trade
 
https://mobile.twitter.com/AdamSchef...80509094774374

joethomas 01-28-2021 09:07 AM

In just 1 year a seemingly up and coming franchise becomes a bottom feeder.

-King- 01-28-2021 09:09 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Deshaun Watson officially has requested a trade from the Houston Texans, per league sources. He actually did it weeks ago. Their new head-coaching hire, David Culley, has not and will not alter Watson’s thinking.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1354804995191840774?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

morphius 01-28-2021 09:09 AM

Not unexpected...

kysirsoze 01-28-2021 09:10 AM

Trade to NFC plz.

Sofa King 01-28-2021 09:11 AM

Heading to NFC soon I hope. Hopefully to WFT so he can dominate that division and they'll stop talking about the goddamn Cowboys every year.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-28-2021 09:11 AM

I hope they send him to the NFC. Badly.

kysirsoze 01-28-2021 09:13 AM

Probably trade him to the ****ing Patriots cause goddammit.

FloridaMan88 01-28-2021 09:13 AM

Considering how stupid the Texans are, watch them trade Watson to the Colts within their own division.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-28-2021 09:14 AM

The dude seems locked in on getting out of there. They might call his bluff but do you really wanna keep a guy around who wants to leave that bad?

They should get 4+ first rounders at minimum IMO. Which at that point, the team trading for him may be handicapping themselves a bit too much to build a consistent top 5 team.

Hoover 01-28-2021 09:15 AM

He's a great player, and what a shit show the Texans have become.

Less than two years ago they make a slew of "win now" trades, and in the process destroy the team. I mean if they had just kept Hopkins they are a contender every year. Stunning.

Mecca 01-28-2021 09:15 AM

49ers

pugsnotdrugs19 01-28-2021 09:16 AM

Even a team like the Raiders would have to be involved. Could include Carr in the trade. Yuck.

There’s 20+ teams who will seriously have to make offers.

FloridaMan88 01-28-2021 09:17 AM

I think the Dolphins would make the most sense... they already have the "culture" and the foundation of a potential winning team in place.

Also they have the draft capital and Tua as trade assets.

thabear04 01-28-2021 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 15515142)
Probably trade him to the ****ing Patriots cause goddammit.

Watson has a no-trade clause in his $156 million contract, allowing him to essentially choose his destination.

CoMoChief 01-28-2021 09:19 AM

Just dont go to the Broncos or Raiders.

I like seeing those scum franchises suck ass.

Hoover 01-28-2021 09:20 AM

He's a steal for the team trading for him IMO, I just don't know how they can actually afford to trade him.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-28-2021 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 15515150)
I think the Dolphins would make the most sense... they already have the "culture" and the foundation of a potential winning team in place.

Also they have the draft capital and Tua as trade assets.

Would make Miami a top 2-3 AFC team.

stevieray 01-28-2021 09:23 AM

LMAO

Not worried about this guy.

kysirsoze 01-28-2021 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thabear04 (Post 15515151)
Watson has a no-trade clause in his $156 million contract, allowing him to essentially choose his destination.

I don't see how that eliminated the Patriots. They were down this year but he would probably love to play for one of the most competent organizations in the league. The Patriots are one of the only places he could go that I would legitimately see him as a threat. That said, I would hope Houston wouldn't be stupid enough to deal with the Patriots, but it seems like there is no end to their stupidity.

KChiefs1 01-28-2021 09:23 AM

Jets have the only draft capital to make this trade.

2 - first rounders in 2021
2 - first rounders in 2022

MahomesMagic 01-28-2021 09:23 AM

Please not to Miami.

Anywhere else is fine.

chiefzilla1501 01-28-2021 09:24 AM

Think we all know if anywhere, he's going to the Jets. He wants it, they have the trade capital and desire to trade big, out of division.

Mecca 01-28-2021 09:24 AM

Supposedly he said that Jets rumor is false.

chiefzilla1501 01-28-2021 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 15515161)
Please not to Miami.

Anywhere else is fine.

After this shit show id have to think it's not high on his list. He's even said he picks NYJ over Miami. I think he wants nothing to do with the patriot way bullshit.

Marco Polo 01-28-2021 09:25 AM

I'm fine with the Jets. Just keep him out of the AFC West.

oldman 01-28-2021 09:27 AM

How much money and draft capital does Atlanta have? They'd have to get rid of Ryan some way, so maybe a QB swap could work while the Texans look for a QBotF.

-King- 01-28-2021 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 15515164)
After this shit show id have to think it's not high on his list. He's even said he picks NYJ over Miami. I think he wants nothing to do with the patriot way bullshit.

The NYJ shit was false. And Flores coaches far from the Patriot way despite coming up with them

loochy 01-28-2021 09:27 AM

Dumb**** Texans. Do they know how long it'll be before they can draft another QB as good as what they have? The incompetence is staggering

CoMoChief 01-28-2021 09:27 AM

Saints would be wise to trade the farm for Watson with Brees most likely leaving.

Winston and Hill aren't going to amount to shit.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-28-2021 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 15515170)
Saints would be wise to trade the farm for Watson with Brees most likely leaving.

Winston and Hill aren't going to amount to shit.

They don’t have the cap room to do it. WAY in the red.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-28-2021 09:28 AM

Miami has the #3 pick. That is a huge bargaining chip and I fear he will end up there, making for a juggernaut.

Mecca 01-28-2021 09:30 AM

So the Texans are privately saying they aren't trading him, this is gonna so well.

Gravedigger 01-28-2021 09:30 AM

Given the type of Quarterback that he's been recently taking in the draft, I would think Matt LaFleur would take a shot at him for sure. This is a joke of course... but kinda not.

oldman 01-28-2021 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15515159)
Jets have the only draft capital to make this trade.

2 - first rounders in 2021
2 - first rounders in 2022

This might make sense if you throw in Darnold and 1 1st rounder in each year.

thabear04 01-28-2021 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 15515158)
I don't see how that eliminated the Patriots. They were down this year but he would probably love to play for one of the most competent organizations in the league. The Patriots are one of the only places he could go that I would legitimately see him as a threat. That said, I would hope Houston wouldn't be stupid enough to deal with the Patriots, but it seems like there is no end to their stupidity.

Unless the rumors are true that he wants to play for New York Jets.

Shields68 01-28-2021 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thabear04 (Post 15515151)
Watson has a no-trade clause in his $156 million contract, allowing him to essentially choose his destination.

On the other hand Houston has a long term deal. Could just ruin his career. Let him sit if he does not agree to the best offer. No way can they give him away. It also sets a bad president if you do not get market value.

If I am Houston, either a team ponies up with a top 3-4 pick in the draft, and a bunch of future picks or we keep him. This is not the NBA.

Mecca 01-28-2021 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldman (Post 15515179)
This might make sense if you throw in Darnold and 1 1st rounder in each year.

You're talking 3 1s and other things Jamal Adams went for 2 1s a 3 and Bradley Mcdougal, so the Watson return has to be quite a bit higher.

thabear04 01-28-2021 09:32 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">17 trade proposals for Deshaun Watson, ranked from least to most likely ��<br><br>Check out the full list here (ESPN+) ➡️ <a href="https://t.co/fgwtgN78bf">https://t.co/fgwtgN78bf</a> <a href="https://t.co/sfJ32oyn4V">pic.twitter.com/sfJ32oyn4V</a></p>&mdash; NFL on ESPN (@ESPNNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNNFL/status/1354807401816330248?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mecca 01-28-2021 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shields68 (Post 15515182)
On the other hand Houston has a long term deal. Could just ruin his career. Let him sit if he does not agree to the best offer. No way can they give him away. It also sets a bad president if you do not get market value.

If I am Houston, either a team ponies up with a top 3-4 pick in the draft, and a bunch of future picks or we keep him. This is not the NBA.

It's becoming the NBA, the players are realizing they have power.

Bob Dole 01-28-2021 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shields68 (Post 15515182)
On the other hand Houston has a long term deal. Could just ruin his career. Let him sit if he does not agree to the best offer. No way can they give him away. It also sets a bad president if you do not get market value.

If I am Houston, either a team ponies up with a top 3-4 pick in the draft, and a bunch of future picks or we keep him. This is not the NBA.

Marcus Allen his ass.

penguinz 01-28-2021 09:34 AM

It is funny that people are worried where he ends up. He is not a top 5 QB.

kysirsoze 01-28-2021 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15515177)
So the Texans are privately saying they aren't trading him, this is gonna so well.

I bet this happens. What a shit franchise.

Red Dawg 01-28-2021 09:36 AM

Lol. Their owner is a dumpster fire. I am surprised more QBs don't do this. They have power. McNair thinks of them as just cattle and he's the ranch owner. He is about to find out thats really not the case. Nobody will want to go there when a guy like Watson wants out.

Mecca 01-28-2021 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 15515189)
I bet this happens. What a shit franchise.

All that'll do is ruin them in free agency, holding a dude hostage isn't a good look.

Hoover 01-28-2021 09:37 AM

Dolphins have cap space, #3 and #18 picks this year, they also have two picks the second round. And they could send Tua as part of the deal.

Miami would be scary with Watson, but if he's going to the AFC east I'm fine with it.

Red Dawg 01-28-2021 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15515177)
So the Texans are privately saying they aren't trading him, this is gonna so well.

If he sticks to his guns it will happen. Texans may as well do it and get it over with. They can get a big haul.

Red Dawg 01-28-2021 09:39 AM

If Patrick wanted to pick the next HC would Clark let him? He certainly would not hire an HC Mahomes doesn't want.

Gravedigger 01-28-2021 09:40 AM

I know there are Bill O'Briens out there that would give three first rounders for Deshaun Watson, but no intelligent GM would give that, I could see 2 firsts and a second but the Texans will likely have to lower their expectations a tad.

Mr. Plow 01-28-2021 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 15515162)
Think we all know if anywhere, he's going to the Jets. He wants it, they have the trade capital and desire to trade big, out of division.

Sorry, bumped the down vote on this accidentally.

chiefzilla1501 01-28-2021 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15515168)
The NYJ shit was false. And Flores coaches far from the Patriot way despite coming up with them

The Miami GM, defensive coordinator, ex defensive coordinator all come from the Patriots. He may be less like the tree but I would not trust that given the shit show he just went through.

chiefzilla1501 01-28-2021 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 15515200)
If Patrick wanted to pick the next HC would Clark let him? He certainly would not hire an HC Mahomes doesn't want.

All the Texans had to do was interview him, then claim they found someone they liked better. That they didn't offer even a courtesy interview speaks volumes about Easterby and is exactly the reason Watson should leave asap no matter how much they try to convince him to stay.

-King- 01-28-2021 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 15515207)
The Miami GM, defensive coordinator, ex defensive coordinator all come from the Patriots. He may be less like the tree but I would not trust that given the shit show he just went through.

Last time the GM was with the Patriots was in 1999. Before the "Patriots Way"

Shields68 01-28-2021 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15515185)
It's becoming the NBA, the players are realizing they have power.

Depends on the contract. Some of the contracts with huge signing bonuses become impossible to trade given the cap hit the trading team would incur. So a team just can not trade the guy. Some of those contracts are way too high so no one is going to want them.

Deshaun is sort of a exception then the rule. Not much a signing bonus.

Further the thing the NBA has is max contracts and no cap hit to the trading team. So a team can easily decide if the player is worth a max contract or not. Further a lot of those contracts are short periods and at the end of those contracts they can walk. So a guy with 1-2 years left tells team trade me now or you get nothing. That is compelling.

If the guy is in the NFL you can look at him and say nah we will just franchise you for a couple more years.

What is Deshaun's options for not getting traded? Not report? OK. Report and not try? MMM unlike the NBA good chance you get hurt if not by the other team, your own team.

GingaChief 01-28-2021 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 15515134)
Trade to NFC plz.

Hopefully. Though if not better not be the patriots! :mad:

-King- 01-28-2021 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravedigger (Post 15515201)
I know there are Bill O'Briens out there that would give three first rounders for Deshaun Watson, but no intelligent GM would give that, I could see 2 firsts and a second but the Texans will likely have to lower their expectations a tad.

You're nuts if you don't think it's going to take at the very least 3 first round picks to trade for one of the best QBs in the league.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-28-2021 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 15515173)
Miami has the #3 pick. That is a huge bargaining chip and I fear he will end up there, making for a juggernaut.

We are the juggernaut....bitches

pugsnotdrugs19 01-28-2021 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 15515217)
We are the juggernaut....bitches

OK?

That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t want easier paths to Super Bowls. Right now, Houston with Watson is not a threat. If he goes to Miami, they are.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-28-2021 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 15515173)
Miami has the #3 pick. That is a huge bargaining chip and I fear he will end up there, making for a juggernaut.

LOL.


K.

wazu 01-28-2021 09:51 AM

I'm rooting for the Texans to refuse to trade him and force him to be a Texan or retire. Love a good standoff.

Shields68 01-28-2021 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15515216)
You're nuts if you don't think it's going to take at the very least 3 first round picks to trade for one of the best QBs in the league.

A lot depends on how high the 2021 first rounder is. i may be tempted to trade him for the number 1 overall pick without getting another one but that might be it.

We know that it would take at least three ones to move from the end of the draft to the top, 2 ones and something else most years to move from 4th to 1 (sometimes more)....As long a the 1 pick is a team that does not want a QB.

Sassy Squatch 01-28-2021 09:52 AM

LMAO Easterby won't ever be able to walk the streets of Houston safely.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-28-2021 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 15515221)
OK?

That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t want easier paths to Super Bowls. Right now, Houston with Watson is not a threat. If he goes to Miami, they are.

A year ago, they were a contender.

Hindsight...

Mecca 01-28-2021 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravedigger (Post 15515201)
I know there are Bill O'Briens out there that would give three first rounders for Deshaun Watson, but no intelligent GM would give that, I could see 2 firsts and a second but the Texans will likely have to lower their expectations a tad.

He's the most valuable thing in team sports, a young franchise player at the most important position. If you get the same return Jamal Adams got, you ****ed up.

scho63 01-28-2021 09:53 AM

"Hot to Destroy an NFL Franchise in 3 Quick Steps" --- Author Bill O'Brien

Worked great

Hoover 01-28-2021 09:53 AM

As long as Mahomes is upright I'm confident with this team.

Chief Northman 01-28-2021 09:55 AM

Cry baby bitch. Don’t sign the extension.

The Franchise 01-28-2021 09:55 AM

Go get him, Washington.

chiefzilla1501 01-28-2021 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15515211)
Last time the GM was with the Patriots was in 1999. Before the "Patriots Way"

OK, that's fair.

Mecca 01-28-2021 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 15515236)
Cry baby bitch. Don’t sign the extension.

To be fair a lot happened after he signed that.

Shields68 01-28-2021 09:57 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here&#39;s Houston&#39;s leverage, if used:<br><br>*Can fine Deshaun Watson $95,877 for missing minicamp.<br><br>*Can fine him $50,000 per day for each day of training camp missed, plus one week salary -- $620,000 -- for each preseason game missed.<br><br>*If he retires, Texans can collect $21.6 million.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1354817779333963788?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

wazu 01-28-2021 09:57 AM

C'mon Texans! DO EEEEET!!!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here&#39;s Houston&#39;s leverage, if used:<br><br>*Can fine Deshaun Watson $95,877 for missing minicamp.<br><br>*Can fine him $50,000 per day for each day of training camp missed, plus one week salary -- $620,000 -- for each preseason game missed.<br><br>*If he retires, Texans can collect $21.6 million.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1354817779333963788?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 28, 2021</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The Franchise 01-28-2021 09:58 AM

His cap hit would be $10.5 million in 2021. **** that’s cheap.

Pablo 01-28-2021 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15515225)
LMAO Easterby won't ever be able to walk the streets of Houston safely.

They'll have an extra prayer session for his safety and all will be well.

The Franchise 01-28-2021 09:59 AM

Couldn’t have happened to a better city BTW. **** Houston. **** the Astros. **** the Texans.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-28-2021 10:01 AM

I don't see how any one can be afraid of a damn Watson led team as long as KC has Mahomes, Reek, and Kelce.

joethomas 01-28-2021 10:01 AM

Of course the Texans are going to SAY they aren't trading him. They aren't going to close off any of their options. They will be trying to repair the relationship via the new HC. But if as Shefter reported Watson's anger with the Texans is a 10 out of 10 then it's hard to see how that gets fixed. If Watson is willing to sit out the season and give up however much money that would cost him, then a trade will probably get done. Is he that committed?

Sassy Squatch 01-28-2021 10:03 AM

Watson is just going to have phantom injuries to keep his money.

Pablo 01-28-2021 10:04 AM

This creep's photo should be posted in every thread about Houston and their failures:

https://static.clubs.nfl.com/image/p...2fmk0dubap.jpg

joethomas 01-28-2021 10:05 AM

I didn't know Gru worked for the Texans


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