Jets hire Adam Gase to be HC
 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jets expected to hire HC Adam Gase, per me and <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffDarlington?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JeffDarlington</a>.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1083163807894200326?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Better than McCarthy IMO

I think he’ll be good for Darnold

McCarthy is waiting a year apparently because he said the Jets job was the only one he wanted.

Seems like Bieniemy is safe to stay..

Retreads!!

Bengals. I have a feeling. Down in my plums.

So, who will his first player-coach feud be with?

He was never leaving. He’ll get Rooney ruled for the next few years.

Supposedly not in their top 3

And you wonder why these teams keep firing coaches. ****, they're dumb.

McCarthy must be black listed. Jets fans hate this move.

Based on what? Last I saw they had it narrowed down to an offensive mind not currently in the organization.

Implies Bieniemy, Taylor, or Monken.

Cause he was so good for Tannehill.

He's an asshole who should be selling insurance, but he once had Peyton Manning doing his job for him, so he must be a good coach.

You say that like there’s an excess of HC options out there.

Literally everybody knew it would play out like this.

Did you see Tannehill’s #’s the last few years? They’re about as good as you could hope for.

It’s pretty obvious he got the most out of him.

Those Dolphins teams were absolutely terrible in terms of talent and he got the most out of them every year too.

I’m not saying he’s a home run hire, but he’s better than ****ing McCarthy.

You know what I look for when developing a young QB? A coach that couldn't develop a young QB and butted heads with numerous players.

Jets fans are ****ing PISSED. Lmao

Brown wants to hire Hue or Vance if he can do it without extreme backlash. Don’t be shocked.

What the hell. Dumbass hire.

Eh. I think Tannehill was available to play for literally half of the time Gase was there. Like, 24 games in 3 seasons. Still, dude is a massive douche.

Where did you see that?

You clearly haven’t watched much of the Dolphins or Tannehill if you don’t realize that he was maxed out as a player with Gase.

Tannehill has reached his ceiling. What the **** more do you expect out of a guy that was never going to be a great QB?

He went from 4000 and TDs in the mid-to-upper 20s to throwing for 70 fewer ypg with Gase this year. Great argument

What if that QB was a former WR and wasn't really ever good enough to be a good QB in the NFL?

Because his injuries had nothing to do with him getting worse?

Tannehill and ALL of the Dolphins WR’s missed significant time due to injuries this year. Wilson, Stills, Parker, Grant etc.

Stop making judgments on this years stats without context.

Jets want a coach who can beat the Patriots. Gase has proven to be a guy who can beat the Patriots.
Widely considered to be an offensive guru and works well with QBs.

I can see why the Jets hired him. Not bad IMO.

What if that QB had put up solid numbers that got consistently worse with his new QB guru?

What if that qb had missed 24 games the past 3 years?

Then go back to 16 where he still had a drop off despite a big season from Ajayi and Parker, Stills, Landry, and an OL loaded with high draft picks.

Terrible hire. The cycle continues.

This is great for us. If he can’t develop Darnold to his full potential, that’s a major plus for the AFC playoff picture going forward.

Oh you mean the year he had his highest completion % and best rating?

You’re looking at his totals when he missed 3 games and had 200+ less attempts than in the 3 previous years.

Sounds like you just think he should’ve somehow made Tannehill a better QB than he really was.

Under Gase, Tannehill's INT percentage went up, his TD percentage went down, his YPG dropped.

If Gase was good at developing a QB, you would have seen some measure of improvement from Tannehill in 2016 when he had more weapons, and a better line. But he regressed.

If Gase was a good offensive mind, you would have expected a spike in Chicago. His only year there the Bears were 23rd in the league in points and 21st in yards. The year before...with Marc Trestman, they were 23rd in the league in points and 21st in yards. No, that is not a typo.

Gase doesn't do anything, nor does he really beat the Patriots, going 2-4 against them.

Likewise.

Adam Gase gets jobs cause he once coached Peyton Manning. He's a shit coach, the Jets continue to Jet.

Which is why I used YPG instead of raw yardage. Everyone knows you can dink and dunk and improve your completion percentage and rating. It's how Sam Bradford conned NFL teams out of 130 million dollars. It's why idiots like you thought Alex Smith was a viable QB. It also doesn't translate.

He didn't have to make Tannehill better than he was capable of, but he made him an objectively worse quarterback. QBs with more weapons and more experience generally improve unless they're put in bad systems or have bad coaches. Gase has never done anything for any team. Manning ran the show in Denver, installing his own system, and Gase's presence in Chicago couldn't even improve upon the dumpster fire that was Marc Trestman.

Brady has never played well against the Dolphins. I think it has more to do with that than Gase.

LMAO Take a wild guess as to who his new DC will probably be.

He didn’t even get a full season out of the guy in 3 ****ing years LMAO


He played 24 games for Gase, and in half of those his WR’s weren’t healthy.

It’s hard to make a QB like Tannehill look good or better than he is when he’s not even on the field 50% of the time.

I live in South Florida so the Fins are like a second team (that I hate) and even the fans that wanted Gase gone will tell you he got the most out of Tannehill.

You don't have to make Tannehill better than he is. You have to make him not worse than he was. Gase didn't do that.

Adam Gase just sucks ok, let's not have a ****ing debate. The only time he ever did shit was when he had a job I could have ****ing done the same.

But the only reason you’re saying he’s worse is because you’re comparing his #’s with Gase, whom he could even finish a season for, to a career year when he played 16 games and everything went right.

Of course his numbers aren’t going to look as good. They’re still not even that much worse.

What you’re trying to do is intellectually dishonest.

Adam Gase is an offensive guru who only produced good offensive numbers when he had Peyton Manning, see a problem here?

I’m sure that has nothing to do with the QB’s he’s had since.

Cutler had one of his best years with Gase (career low INT’s and career high QBR) and he got the most out of Tannehill despite the fact that he’s been a brokedick since he got there.

That’s all that matters.

Bob Sutton? :grovel:

Alright defend Gase, have at it, you'll never win with a guy like that.

Maybe Steven Nelson can go there too and you can tell us how great the team is.

No, I'm not. Look at 2013-15. Averaged over 4k yards per season (250 per game) 25 TDs and his INT rate was 2.3% with worse players than he had in 2016 with Gase, completely cherry picking out his performance this year.

If a shitbird like Joe Philbin gets better or even equal production from a QB with worse weapons than your offensive guru, there's a problem.

How can someone have a career high QBR when the QBR their only season with him in Chicago was the fifth highest of their career?

No. It rhymes with Lance Yoseph.

Ok fine, the one season where Gase had Tannehill for more than 11 games (13) his #’s weren’t as good.

Funny how you keep talking about it without acknolwedging that he made the playoffs that year with a 10-6 record though. Also, it’s not like Ajayi running wild the second half of the season had nothing to do with the passing game taking a backseat.

If that’s not maxing out Ryan ****ing Tannehill, I don’t know what is.

The Ajayi running wild that Gase ran off...

Yea he’s really regretting that now, right?

:rolleyes:

Well Ajayi was part of a bowl winner...gase wasn't.

He eventually ran off 2 of his best offensive skill players in Landry and Ajayi. Dude is a ****ing dumbass


Does he regret it? He was fired for incompetence not even 2 weeks ago.

Lol yea Ajayi sure did prove he was an every down bellcow stud like he thought he was!

What a joke. The guy was starting shit in Philly before he got hurt too.

stupid is as stupid does

Also ran off Suh and Pouncey in the name of "culture change."

He “ran off” Jarvis Landry because he didn’t want to give a slot guy WR1 money?

He was 100% right about both guys long term value.

JFC you’re an imbecile.

Not overpaying for those guys was also clearly 100% the right move.

Such is a shell of his former self and Pouncey has been overrated for a while.

LMAO Don't worry though. He brought in guys like Frank Gore and Danny Amendola. Truly a cultured locker room, indeed.

Frank Gore was a great value pickup. Did you not see him at all this year? Amendola wasn’t bad and it’s not like either cost much.

Are you ever right about anything?

Man, I'd sure take an "overrated" pro bowl center like Mike Pouncey here. If I had a QB like Tannehill who ended up on IR after feeling a stiff breeze I'd invest heavily in prorecting him. Not Adam Gase.

Whoa now, did you watch Jarvis Landry this year? He's really good.

Not even 1,000 yards and 4 TD’s.

Absolutely worth WR1 money!

There’s a reason he went to the Browns.

Eric Fisher made the Pro Bowl too...

Who had a better record than Gase's Dolphins in his third year

Who deserved to get in over him?

Schwartz for sure.

Maybe folks saw him get anally devastated by Ingram on national TV and decided he didn't need to make the trip.

That wasn’t meant to be a slight. I’m saying the Browns were the only team that made sense giving Landry what he was asking for given all of their cap space.

And yes, the Browns were better than the Dolphins this year by a tie.

The Dolphins roster is worse and their QB and WR’s were never healthy together.

Also, CP is clearly unaware of how bad of a situation the Dolphins were/are. Ownership and management are bottom 5 easily.

Adam Gase certainly didn't help on that front. It's pretty telling when multiple former players celebrate the fact that you got fired.

Does is change the fact that he’s being overrated?

Overpaying for an overrated LT is one thing, but a C?

**** that

Id kindly decline that interview. That organization is a dump.

Job security, though. Marvin Lewis lasted 16 ****ing years.

So once he started getting injured he got worse? Doesn't that apply go every player?

The one thing I'll give Gase is that I've always thought the Dolphins situation was not great and they have one of the worst owners in the league. But I'm not sure how much better it'll be with the Jets. Honestly if they wanted a real QB guru you hire Arians. The guy has made gold out of every QB he's had and he was just about .500 or above every year with multiple playoff appearances in Arizona, which is an achievement. Problem is he wanted Bowles as the DC, and the Jets obviously couldn't do that.

Didn't know he was also the GM.

Yeah. He wanted to get rid of players with bad attitudes (in his mind) and bring in veterans that would listen to him with no questions asked, but he had nothing to do with who was brought in.

So the GM couldn't sign a better player than Danny amendola to be the #1 WR?