Mike Clay from ESPN projected our season
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https://mobile.twitter.com/MikeClayN...42589749530625 I’m seeing that he’s got us going 8-8. Here’s his projected stats: Mahomes-4,041 yards, 21 TD’s, 15 INT’s, 3 rushing TD’s Hunt-1,005 rush yards, 8 rush TD’s, 439 rush yards 2 receiving Kelce-982 yards, 5 TD’s Hill-1,055 yards, 5 TD’s Watkins-973 yards, 5 TD’s Jones-4 sacks Houston-11 sacks Ford-8 sacks Speaks-1 sack KPass-0 sacks Fuller-3 INT’s Berry- 2 INT’s Amerson-2 INT’s |
I NEVER trust anyone with "Clay" in their name! Especially in shower rooms.
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What a dumbass. 21 passing TD's for Mahomes? :rolleyes: I guess he is not impressed with the firepower of this Offense at all. If Brady had the same weapons he would be projecting 50 TD's. Biased Trash. |
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Meh...I can make up numbers too.
That would the worst finish in Reid's tenure at KC. Donks have a new QB in a new system and the Raiders have a new HC. I think Mahomes is going to run this offense better than Smith did...he left a LOT of plays on the field. Was actually pretty awful during that losing streak... Albert Wilson's best game during Smith's run was around 80 yards....he averaged 31 yards a game the past 3 years. Mahomes had him at 150 in his first start. |
If Mahomes throws over 4K, and has 3 receivers who basically went for 1K a piece...and a 1K RB...he's going to have more than 21TD's.
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Stupid practice. Fun, sure. But stupid.
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I can't wait to bet the Chiefs over this season. Easiest money in the world.
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His data is definitely spot on for the history of first year starting QB’s but he’s not putting in the circumstances of having sat a year and elite coaching.
Even a 1st year QB should have more TD’s with this supporting cast though. |
My guess is 4600 yards, 30 TDs and 14 INTs.
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Mahomes = 4,200 yards 32 TDs 14 Ints 4 Rushing TDs
Kareem = 1,200 yards rushing 13 TDs Hill= 1,300 yards 8 TDs Watkins = 1,000 yards 11 TDs Kelce = 1,200 yards 9 TDs Book mark it! (God wouldn't it be great) |
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Only two teams have had one 1000 yard WR, a 1000 yard TE, and a 1000 yard RB. The 2017 KC chiefs and the 1981 chargers. It looks like the chargers were close though. https://www.pro-football-reference.c...s/sdg/1981.htm Chandler did have 1000 yards that season, but not with the Chargers. They acquired him mid-season. https://www.pro-football-reference.c.../gamelog/1981/ |
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I’ll play along.
Mahomes: 4400 yards, 26 TDs/13 INTs, 3 rushing TDs Hunt: 1200 yards rushing, 13 TDs Hill: 1150 yards, 8 TDs Watkins: 1100 yards, 9 TDs Kelce: 1000 yards, 6 TDs |
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Not sure why some think his INTs are going to be unusually high. He has a great track record in college and I think Reid is going to put him in situations that are going to minimize turnovers early on. It will probably be a little heavier on the dink and dunk stuff early... let the playmakers do some work. (Loving the thought of 2 back sets :drool:) Of course he's going to have bad throws like the floater in Denver, but I don't see it happening more than once per game on average. Once he gets his feet under him and starts processing fast enough, with the talent around him, someone will not just be open, but wide open on every play. Can't wait... |
Chiefs 12-4 mahomes 4600 yrd. 31 td
kelcie 850 yrd 6 td hill 1065 yrds 10 td hunt 1236 yrds 8 td Houston 13 sacks Berry 5 Int fuller 10 int butker 35 out of 37. Hope I'm right. |
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Goff had 28 last year with the same elite caliber coaching, but without as many star weapons as what Mahomes has this year. Goff also threw the ball on average 30X a game and relied more heavily on Gurley. I really think that Mahomes is going to average 35+ throws a game this year. Alex averaged 33.6 last year and I think we’ll air it out more with Pat. |
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this is actually impossible lol |
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And my point was- If Brady had the same exact weapons- they would be predicting a record-breaking year. Is Mahomes 20 to 30 less TD's less talented than Brady- I don't think so. Chiefs and Mahomes are getting zero respect. |
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Need to adda zero to the back of each of those numbers for every player. 210 TDs just watch.
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I disagree with some of these projections, but in my opinion Mike Clay is the best there is at projecting fantasy football.
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Mahomes has displayed, in limited preseason and basically one psuedo preseason game, unique and special talents never before seen by us lowly Chiefs fans. Sit back, enjoy, give the god damn kid a chance and shut your stupid ****ing mouth until he has a chance and the time to show us one way or the other. We haven't drafted a first round qb since ****ing 83, and some stupid asshole is already comparing him to Brady before he even has a legitimate NFL start. |
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The reason Watkins yardage was so-so last year is two-fold Watkins joined the team late and Goff didn't get the reps in with him Goff likely did not feel comfortable forcing the ball to him because of lack of reps. Mahomes shouldn't have this problem because he simply throws to open receivers, whereas more conservative QBs like Goff and Smith are averse to this. |
Yeah, Goff was throwing to exactly who he was told to throw to most times.. he didn't make things happen so much.. he played within the system.
That is all well and good, but the system mostly used Watkins as a decoy it looked like. He was running wide open again and again, and would not get the ball. I think he is going to have a really, really good year.. over a thousand yards easily. EDIT: It is hard though.. pencil Hill in for 1000, pencil Kelce in for a 1000, pencil Watkins in for 1000. Looks like Andy has been indicating they will be throwing to the running backs more. That is a lot of yards quick. |
that means Hill, Watkins, Kelce and Hunt need to average 62.5 yards per game EACH to hit 1000 yards. Those 4 alone would have to allocate 250 yards of offense per game. Even if we bump the offense's YPG from their 372 number in 2017 (5th in the NFL, already elite.) to 395 (that's above NE and NO, so they would be #1 last year in the NFL in offensive ypg) that still only leaves 145 yards of offense for the rest of the team. (Alex Smith left 400 rushing yards on the table from scrambling, Hunt caught for 400 yards, Albert Wilson had 500 yards.) Those stats aren't just going to go to Sammy Watkins lol. It's almost impossible. It's literally why they signed 5 RBs in the offseason. Because another RB is going to get stats in this offense.
The 1000 WR, 1000 WR, 1000 TE, 1000 RB, 4000 QB club is basically a historic record breaking offense that has never been done before, and you expect a QB in his first full season as a starter to do it? That would make it the best offense ever in the NFL (and the best Fantasy Offense ever as well). I could see if there was maybe a precedent or a benchmark for this but there isn't. You're also not considering the injury factor, another reason this is impossible, operating under the assumption that each player plays a full durable season. (hint: Watkins has done that once, and he didn't even get a 1000 yards playing 16 games.) |
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I was not saying Mahomes is Brady you dumb ****- I was making a point at how many weapons Mahomes will have to work with next year. Mahomes showed plenty in college and his limited NFL experience to project that he is capable of getting the ball in the hands of his playmakers. He has also stated as much in interviews- saying that is his number one job. So if you believe he will average less than a TD and half per game- either you think his entire college career is due to the system- or Hill, Watkins, Hunt and Kelce will be shut out most of the year and at best, held to pedestrian numbers for their talent. Nice rant by the way- but not drafting a QB since 83 and most of the other stupid shit you posted, has zero to do with what will happen next year. Please pour yourself a big glass of shut the **** up, asshole. |
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Usually, for that amount of money, you would expect a minimum of 1000 yards receiving. But as you stated- there are only so many balls to go around. It is going to be interesting what they have in store for Watkins and why they outbid other teams to bring him in. It is going to be an exciting year. I really don't see how defenses are going to be able to keep us off the scoreboard. :hmmm: |
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He hasn't made an NFL start, you're already comparing him to the best ever. Relax, enjoy, give the kid a year or two or hell maybe even on true NFL start before you start in with that type of narrative. My post was admittedly harsh, however absolute truth. You compared, with great emotion, our potential franchise QB we've waited 30+ years for to the greatest to ever play the position before he even has one true start under his belt. Calm down Francis, he looks amazing, give him a chance. Dial back the expectations for a year or two maybe? |
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My thoughts on Pat are he has every tool in the book to succeed physically, mentally, and with guys like Brady and Rodgers reaching retirement he has a chance to become the NFL's new sweetheart that will get calls because he'll attract girls to the sport, inspire young kids and he's a genuinely likeable guy. And while it's a totally another topic that I'm not going to hijack the thread with I think anyone who's followed football that doesn't think Brady and Rodgers get a bit a favoritism might want to layoff the alcohol before watching the game. I hope I didn't take your post out of perspective but rooting balls out for a potentially stud QB who has no reason to fail isn't being a homer. |
Since we are all making early predictions now...
11-5 Patrick Mahomes 4450YDS 31TD 10INT 150RUSHYD 3RUTD Kareem Hunt 1250RUSHYD 10TD 400RECYD 4RECTD Tyreek Hill 1100RECYD 7RECTD 280RUSHYD 4RUTD Travis Kelce 1050RECYD 9TD Sammy Watkins 1250 RECYD 10TD Thats right, 3 1000yd receivers. Defense will finish top 10 in points allowed, top 10 in rushing defense but fall a little short in pass defense because other teams will be trying to catch up after halftime. [emoji3] Sent from my LGMP450 using Tapatalk |
I think Mahomes gets anywhere between 25-30 TD's.
But I also think he'll have anywhere from 15-20 INT's as well. I don't think scoring will be a problem, and I fully expect this offense to be good, fun to watch, lots of players w/ HR potential w/ a guy who loves to show off the arm and sling it around the yard. That just means if he's young, trigger happy and the Chiefs offense passes a lot, that just means there are more chances for a 1st yr starter to **** up on. But he's going to extend plays. If something isn't there his first instinct will not be to check down, take the 3-4 gain on 3rd n long and have Colquitt pin the opposing offense deep in their territory and chalk that drive up as a loss. Mahomes is going to look downfield and look to make shit work if something isn't there, it will be contagious, and players will play their ass off. If the Chiefs get on a scoring spree, everyone will feed off of it. There is enough weapons on this offense to be a serious problem for every team in the NFL. Hill Watkins Conley Kelce Hunt Ware. WTF is going to stop that? And **** the Rams D. I think the D is going to suck ass. The only way it doesnt is if Justin Houston is the Justin Houston of old and Eric Berry has a 2016-ish season. And i'd bet my money on that probably not happening. I've said this for the past couple yrs but I think Houston's best days are behind him. Chiefs are just stuck w/ a horribly overpriced veteran. Chiefs need CB help still. I don't think the Chiefs D will be good til 2020. Dont expect playoffs this yr, although it could happen and I wouldn't be surprised if they did make it. 2019 I expect a playoff birth and 2020 I expect a SB. |
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He could have a really good season and the same people will be disappointed because if the ridiculous expectations they've set for him. Posted via Mobile Device |
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But your teams defense sucks |
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I don't really understand your post. Mahomes already has a True NFL win under his belt- on the road, against a hated division rival, in cold weather, with all backups playing opposite starters most of the game. And once again- I was Not comparing the QB's, just stating that Mahomes has a lot of weapons. It seems many are not recognizing that. More offensive weapons than have ever wore red in the same season. I truly believe the media pundits, including some in KC are way underestimating what this kid will do in the next few years. I have suffered from battered Chief's fan syndrome my entire life and it seems you have it too by the way you attacked my post. Like if we get too excited or too optimistic about Mahomes- he will bust or get hurt. I am so excited for the season, I am sorry if the optimism intimidates you. I will dial it back. Please accept my sincerest apologies. I hope we can be friends and enjoy Mahomes ****ing steamrolling teams this year. :) |
I agree that Mahomes should throw a bunch of INTs, like around 15.
The defense will be max a top 20 unit and very possibly top 15. If we had another good corner I would be banging the table for top 10. |
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I think Hunt is going to have a career year, maybe set some franchise records. I see us going 12-4 and making it to the AFC championship game.
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The top of the NFL was 3577 yrds, 34 TD last year. I think expectations are getting a little out of control thinking Mahomes is going to be top-3 in Yrd/TD in his 1st year starting.
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I'm just rooting for him with the most unbiased opinion I can give as a Chiefs fan that I think he's got the chance for high success. Only time will tell. |
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Despite having:<br>-the NFL's fastest player<br>-the league's rushing leader<br>-the league's 2nd best TE<br>-the addition of Sammy Watkins <br>-arguably the NFL's strongest arm<br>...the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> aren't predicted to have a top 10 offense.<a href="https://t.co/FvG1mH6ynI">https://t.co/FvG1mH6ynI</a></p>— Matt Conner (@MattConnerAA) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattConnerAA/status/996833171068149761?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 16, 2018</a></blockquote>
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I bet this was a typo- you meant 4577 right? Alex Smith had over 4 k and that included a long midseason slump. |
Anyone named Clay can’t predict shit...:D
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I think they will be better this year, at least I hope so. What we do know- the play won't be over when our QB is flushed out of the pocket like it was last year. Defenses won't be able to stack the line either. Mahomes will make the O line better with his skillset and pocket awareness. |
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The Chiefs aren't going to rebuild the 02/03 OL. That was one of the best OL's in history.
The current OL isn't good enough, yet they had the league leading rusher, a 1000 yard WR and a 1000 yard TE and a QB throw for 4000 yards. The OL is good. If they improve significantly they'd be the best in the league which isn't really likely. |
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8-8? Way to go out on a limb there, buddy. :rolleyes:
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I like the 2 back option as well: <a href="https://imgflip.com/gif/2agtko"><img src="https://i.imgflip.com/2agtko.gif" title="made at imgflip.com"/></a> Lot of options for Pat if a defense blitzes |
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I disagree. I'd much rather have Kelce. That's not homerism. That's knowledge. |
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https://usathss.files.wordpress.com/...0&h=600&crop=1 That and the fact ( I know its was BIG 12) Mahomes hasn't thrown for less than 4,600 yard and 30+ TD's his whole starting career. He has Sammy Watkins/ Tyreek Hill / Travis Kelce / Kareem Hunt....... He has never had target of this quality. Add the fact he has the leagues leading rusher... and a HC who is known for getting the most our of QB's in a QB Friendly system..... I know it seems impossible, but the closest Andy Ried has ever had to this unit level of talent is when Mike Vick was starting. (AND EVEN THEN HE DIDN'T HAVE A TE with this level of talent)Get ready to see games that look like this....... <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/mSLWk0q_vu8" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe> |
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I think some of the low projections might be because of our schedule...
According to Warren Sharp we have the 5th hardest schedule and face the 2nd hardest defenses collectively. We face the fewest bottom 10 teams (2) and the most top 10 teams (6)... Chargers have the 3rd easiest schedule. Raiders with the 5th. Texans with the easiest schedule, Watson will have a much easier time than Mahomes, so when Pat puts up similar or better numbers it'll be even more impressive. Oh and the Patriots with the 2nd easiest schedule, Jags with the 4th... http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nf...th-of-schedule |
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