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ShowtimeSBMVP 05-15-2022 02:33 PM

Melvin Ingram signs with Dolphins
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Breaking: FA DE Melvin Ingram is signing with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Dolphins?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Dolphins</a>, per source. <br><br>The 3x Pro Bowler has 51 career sacks with 74 TFLs and 119 QB hits. Another good move for Chris Grier and the Phins.</p>&mdash; Jordan Schultz (@Schultz_Report) <a href="https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1525936962905030657?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Titty Meat 05-15-2022 02:34 PM

Good

louie aguiar 05-15-2022 02:35 PM

Can we match the offer because of the UFA tender?

Hog's Gone Fishin 05-15-2022 02:41 PM

So, we get compensation.

Iconic 05-15-2022 02:41 PM

wow r00de. **** you too ingram.

at least it counts for our comp picks ig

no idea what we are going to do now. we need at least one more proven body on the line

Rainbarrel 05-15-2022 02:42 PM

Steelers again!

TwistedChief 05-15-2022 02:44 PM

Well, that sucks. Comp pick or not. That’s disappointing.

Really weird the Dolphins didn’t come to terms with him before the deadline though.

smithandrew051 05-15-2022 02:46 PM

**** HIM!!!!!!

lawrenceRaider 05-15-2022 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 16295018)
wow r00de. **** you too ingram.

at least it counts for our comp picks ig

no idea what we are going to do now. we need at least one more proven body on the line

No, his signing does zero for comp picks.

No signings after April 27 count.

smithandrew051 05-15-2022 02:47 PM

I do wonder if the Quinn trade will happen. I find it REALLY hard to believe that Veach is done with the DL.

ShowtimeSBMVP 05-15-2022 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 16295028)
No, his signing does zero for comp picks.

No signings after April 27 count.

Chiefs get a comp pick they used the UFA tender on him

RustShack 05-15-2022 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 16295028)
No, his signing does zero for comp picks.

No signings after April 27 count.

Sounds like the rarely used UFA tender still applies to the comp formula, even after the deadline.

ShowtimeSBMVP 05-15-2022 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 16295028)
No, his signing does zero for comp picks.

No signings after April 27 count.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs used the UFA tender on Melvin Ingram, meaning they now have a one-year, $4.4 million offer on the table for him, and they can get a compensatory pick if he signs with another team. <a href="https://t.co/E0DoTaLw1t">https://t.co/E0DoTaLw1t</a></p>&mdash; ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1521244059351793664?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 2, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

dannybcaitlyn 05-15-2022 02:51 PM

Ugh.. DE position still looking weak. Still not sure if Frank is still looking at a suspension sometime either. Might want to kick the tires on Clowney on a one year deal.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 05-15-2022 02:54 PM

Do we sign Trey Flowers?

Iconic 05-15-2022 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn (Post 16295036)
Ugh.. DE position still looking weak. Still not sure if Frank is still looking at a suspension sometime either. Might want to kick the tires on Clowney on a one year deal.

given the structure of the ufa tender kc knew in advance what ingram was getting and chose not to beat it. they definitely have a plan b. i wonder if that quinn rumor has some smoke to it or if veach is winding up to kick the tires on clowney.

Titty Meat 05-15-2022 02:56 PM

He was vastly overrated on here average player that looked way better playing next to shit.

rabblerouser 05-15-2022 03:00 PM

Well. ****.

Hoover 05-15-2022 03:01 PM

Good.

Play the young kids, we can still add some veterans to the pass rush.

Rain Man 05-15-2022 03:04 PM

I am displeased.

PHOG 05-15-2022 03:05 PM

Obligatory over-the-hill & overrated.

austing24 05-15-2022 03:06 PM

With the cap space we have and acknowledgement that we have a need at EDGE, there’s no way we placed the UFA tender on Ingram because we wanted him back. We almost assuredly could’ve exceeded Miami’s offer if we truly wanted to Ingram back.

Think we did this because we knew a team like MIA would sign him to an offer over $4.4M and we’d pick up the comp pick. There are still plenty of solid veteran edge rushers that we can add to the rotation that would have the same impact as Ingram.


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tonyetony 05-15-2022 03:13 PM

If George doesn't care, I don't care.

UChieffyBugger 05-15-2022 03:14 PM

Guys we got ONE SACK with Ingram on the field against Cinci who had one of the worst o-lines in playoff history so needless to say I ain't crying right now. I'm actually happy Veach has to move in a different direction now..Clowney is simply better than Ingram and should be the target.

poolboy 05-15-2022 03:19 PM

Rakeem Nunez-Roches for the win

staylor26 05-15-2022 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 16295028)
No, his signing does zero for comp picks.

No signings after April 27 count.

Wrong.

scho63 05-15-2022 03:20 PM

I trust in Brian Leetch

MVChiefFan 05-15-2022 03:26 PM

Let’s trade the comp pick for him at the trade deadline!

JPH83 05-15-2022 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16295044)
He was vastly overrated on here average player that looked way better playing next to shit.

He was massively underrated on here. Shame he's not returning, he would once again have immediately improved our DL. As it stands, there's nothing left in FA of note beyond Clowney, who'll be twice as expensive and a poorer pass rusher.

JPH83 05-15-2022 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by austing24 (Post 16295057)
With the cap space we have and acknowledgement that we have a need at EDGE, there’s no way we placed the UFA tender on Ingram because we wanted him back. We almost assuredly could’ve exceeded Miami’s offer if we truly wanted to Ingram back.

Think we did this because we knew a team like MIA would sign him to an offer over $4.4M and we’d pick up the comp pick. There are still plenty of solid veteran edge rushers that we can add to the rotation that would have the same impact as Ingram.

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Who? Sorry, I think this is just wrong. He was the best left. If we want to improve the pass rush from the DE we'll need a trade.

lawrenceRaider 05-15-2022 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP (Post 16295034)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs used the UFA tender on Melvin Ingram, meaning they now have a one-year, $4.4 million offer on the table for him, and they can get a compensatory pick if he signs with another team. <a href="https://t.co/E0DoTaLw1t">https://t.co/E0DoTaLw1t</a></p>&mdash; ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1521244059351793664?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 2, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Good move.

Well, a better move would have been to actually sign him I think.

Chiefs still thin at DE.

staylor26 05-15-2022 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 16295096)
Good move.

Well, a better move would have been to actually sign him I think.

Chiefs still thin at DE.

Your passive aggressiveness and false bravado this offseason is hilarious.

Raiderhater 05-15-2022 03:34 PM

****.

So much for the theory that he was just avoiding as much of preseason as he could.

Jewish Rabbi 05-15-2022 03:38 PM

Dude ****in sucks and is washed since he didn’t sign here

UChieffyBugger 05-15-2022 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 16295091)
He was massively underrated on here. Shame he's not returning, he would once again have immediately improved our DL. As it stands, there's nothing left in FA of note beyond Clowney, who'll be twice as expensive and a poorer pass rusher.

Er NEWSFLASH!!..Clowney got nine sacks last season which is as much as Ingram has got in THE LAST THREE SEASONS!!..so your last statement is simply garbage..fullstop.

Red Dawg 05-15-2022 03:40 PM

Veach failed with the pass rush. Unless one of our second year guys kills it we will not get much pressure.

JPH83 05-15-2022 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 16295110)
Er NEWSFLASH!!..Clowney got nine sacks last season which is as much as Ingram has got in THE LAST THREE SEASONS!!..so your last statement is simply garbage..fullstop.

That's fine if you think sacks are the only measure of competence. Anybody who saw our defence last year before and after Ingram, and also watched him play, would have to be blind to not see the impact.

smithandrew051 05-15-2022 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 16295111)
Veach failed with the pass rush. Unless one of our second year guys kills it we will not get much pressure.

He didn’t really take any swings. Even when there were opportunities. He could’ve signed Ingram I’m sure.

Makes me think that there is a trade in the works. Robert Quinn seems to be the popular name.

RunKC 05-15-2022 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 16295111)
Veach failed with the pass rush. Unless one of our second year guys kills it we will not get much pressure.

You can’t fix everything in one offseason. This secondary was a disaster last year.

Matheiu and Sorenson got old and slow, Thornhill got benched, Hughes sucked, Baker sucked and we lost Ward.

Thank God we were able to use resources to fix that and add Karlaftis/Chenab due to the Tyreek trade. Best thing we can do now add a vet DE.

UChieffyBugger 05-15-2022 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 16295119)
That's fine if you think sacks are the only measure of competence. Anybody who saw our defence last year before and after Ingram, and also watched him play, would have to be blind to not see the impact.

You can sugar-coat it all you like..the facts are the facts. He got two sacks in KC..if you think he was prime Derrick Thomas here then go ahead buddy :D

wazu 05-15-2022 03:50 PM

I think DJLN probably called it right. The Chiefs are betting on Frank Clark.

poolboy 05-15-2022 03:51 PM

Ingram was good for us near the end of the season but who knows if he would have held up all year playing a lot of snaps

royr17 05-15-2022 03:52 PM

Justin Houston be the backup plan ?

Palangi 05-15-2022 03:53 PM

I wonder if the staff has high expectations for Karlaftis, Kaindoh, and Herring

Rainbarrel 05-15-2022 03:53 PM

His motivation was moolah

poolboy 05-15-2022 03:54 PM

we need one more scary guy

Bump 05-15-2022 03:57 PM

ya grab Clowney or something ffs but at least we might get a comp pick now right?

Simply Red 05-15-2022 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 16295106)
Dude ****in sucks and is washed since he didn’t sign here

Carcosa is going to want him dead!

ThyKingdomCome15 05-15-2022 03:59 PM

That's rough, MIA did this just to sock it to us.

Halfcan 05-15-2022 03:59 PM

Spags is going to create pressure from every level. Would have been great to get Melvin, but I am sure we have a Plan B ready.

Simply Red 05-15-2022 04:00 PM

Hit the road you piece of shit!

ThyKingdomCome15 05-15-2022 04:04 PM

Veach has to have a back up plan. I understand Veach didn't want to pay close to Ogbah money for Ingram. That's a big loss though.

JPH83 05-15-2022 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 16295127)
You can sugar-coat it all you like..the facts are the facts. He got two sacks in KC..if you think he was prime Derrick Thomas here then go ahead buddy :D

To be honest I liked the focus on the secondary in the draft and FA. Our DL was turd last year, Ingram absolutely elevated it. But we've chosen to focus on shoring up the secondary, that's fine by me. It's also possible he finally starts showing his age and falls off a cliff. But the idea that he was mediocre for us last year, especially compared to what else we had out there, is bizarre. Agree to disagree i guess.

wazu 05-15-2022 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 16295156)
Veach has to have a back up plan. I understand Veach didn't want to pay close to Ogbah money for Ingram. That's a big loss though.

I don’t think there is a backup plan. We’re done with this for the year. The whole tender/tag thing was just for a free pick. My guess is any plan that exists is more focused on 2023 and beyond. Maybe work some extensions, etc.

Titty Meat 05-15-2022 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 16295147)
That's rough, MIA did this just to sock it to us.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 16295156)
Veach has to have a back up plan. I understand Veach didn't want to pay close to Ogbah money for Ingram. That's a big loss though.

Oh no how will Veach replace 1.5 sacks!

TwistedChief 05-15-2022 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 16295129)
I think DJLN probably called it right. The Chiefs are betting on Frank Clark.

-17.337% chance the Chiefs aren't bringing in at least one and possibly two more veteran guys.

No one is betting on Frank Clark.

As always, I'll give Veach the benefit of the doubt until the season starts. No need to fuss at this point before we see the final DL product.

Couch-Potato 05-15-2022 04:15 PM

80.4 PFF grade with us last year... yikes! Who we gonna look to instead?

nychief 05-15-2022 04:19 PM

Ugh. Our dline is butt.

Rainbarrel 05-15-2022 04:24 PM

Without Hill's picks and cap relief. The D would be Mary J Blige thighs on magnify

austing24 05-15-2022 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 16295095)
Who? Sorry, I think this is just wrong. He was the best left. If we want to improve the pass rush from the DE we'll need a trade.


Dunlap? Clowney? JPP? Likely a few others via cuts throughout the offseason? And we have plenty of draft assets to trade if need be. Ingram doesn’t move the needle anymore than the aforementioned names, most of which will likely be the same cost.

Ingram isn’t that great. He just stood out last year because nobody on our defense played with any effort or intensity outside of him and Bolton.


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TRR 05-15-2022 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 16295161)
I don’t think there is a backup plan. We’re done with this for the year. The whole tender/tag thing was just for a free pick. My guess is any plan that exists is more focused on 2023 and beyond. Maybe work some extensions, etc.

Not a chance. Veach will bring in a veteran DE before camp. Could be via trade, or a Clowney, or even depth like Alex Okafor. But Veach doesn’t roll with this lineup for long.

UChieffyBugger 05-15-2022 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16295168)
80.4 PFF grade with us last year... yikes! Who we gonna look to instead?

TWO SACKS!!..wow how irreplaceable omg!!

Bump 05-15-2022 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 16295195)
TWO SACKS!!..wow how irreplaceable omg!!

we didn't like him for his pass rushing prowess, he did everything else really well

gblowfish 05-15-2022 04:36 PM

Welp...at least he didn't go back to the Chargers or go to the Raiders. Time for Kain-DOH! to show. Or blitz on every single play.

Easy 6 05-15-2022 04:38 PM

So its all about the money eh?

Good riddance, prick

stevieray 05-15-2022 04:38 PM

Welp, that sucks.

Bowser 05-15-2022 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 16295197)
we didn't like him for his pass rushing prowess, he did everything else really well

If Kaindoh or Danna can set the edge as well as Ingram, well, it's a net zero loss, really.

TLO 05-15-2022 04:42 PM

More interested in seeing who we have in mind to replace him than actually having him on the team.

UChieffyBugger 05-15-2022 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 16295197)
we didn't like him for his pass rushing prowess, he did everything else really well

And that was the whole problem with the d-line!!..pressure with no sacks means absolutely nothing.

Raiderhater 05-15-2022 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16295166)
-17.337% chance the Chiefs aren't bringing in at least one and possibly two more veteran guys.

No one is betting on Frank Clark.

As always, I'll give Veach the benefit of the doubt until the season starts. No need to fuss at this point before we see the final DL product.

Yeah, Veach is never truly done. Ingram was brought in during the season last year.

Until/unless the guy starts shitting the bed on a consistent basis he has my trust. He’s earned it.

tyreekthefreak 05-15-2022 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRR (Post 16295186)
Not a chance. Veach will bring in a veteran DE before camp. Could be via trade, or a Clowney, or even depth like Alex Okafor. But Veach doesn’t roll with this lineup for long.

No more Okafor, please! Always hurt and no pressure!

ping2000 05-15-2022 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 16295129)
I think DJLN probably called it right. The Chiefs are betting on Frank Clark.

I'm betting on Frank driving with guns. . . and under performing on the field. It's what he is good at.

ping2000 05-15-2022 04:55 PM

Will miss Ingram's coin tosses.

Bump 05-15-2022 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 16295209)
If Kaindoh or Danna can set the edge as well as Ingram, well, it's a net zero loss, really.

it would be pretty big if either of those two stepped it up and become able to contribute in a positive way

Cosmos 05-15-2022 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 16295161)
I don’t think there is a backup plan. We’re done with this for the year. The whole tender/tag thing was just for a free pick. My guess is any plan that exists is more focused on 2023 and beyond. Maybe work some extensions, etc.

Eh, training camp hasn’t even started.

I’m pretty sure Veach isn’t done on the DL, whether FA, trades or camp cut pickups.

I doubt Veach ever sits back in his recliner, puts his feet up and says “I Done”.

Rausch 05-15-2022 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 16295203)
So its all about the money eh?

Good riddance, prick

It's his job. Of course it's about the money...

Rausch 05-15-2022 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cosmos (Post 16295241)
Eh, training camp hasn’t even started.

I’m pretty sure Veach isn’t done on the DL, whether FA, trades or camp cut pickups.

I doubt Veach ever sits back in his recliner, puts his feet up and says “I Done”.

True, and I feel the same. The unfortunate thing is the only way to significantly improve at the position now is a trade. There isn't much at all in FA other than depth...

poolboy 05-15-2022 05:15 PM

Veach cant do what he wants until OBJ gets his shit together and signs his deal

staylor26 05-15-2022 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 16295161)
I don’t think there is a backup plan. We’re done with this for the year. The whole tender/tag thing was just for a free pick. My guess is any plan that exists is more focused on 2023 and beyond. Maybe work some extensions, etc.

Holy shit you’re clueless.

When has Veach ever stopped trying to make improvements to the roster?

They literally traded for Ingram during the middle of the season.

Easy 6 05-15-2022 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 16295245)
It's his job. Of course it's about the money...

I'm not big on aging mercenaries anyway... Veach will make a move now, whatever


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