Woodstock ‘99 Documentary
 

Have you seen this on HBO and HBO Max? It’s very well done but it’s such a slice of the cultural back then. I never knew the extent of how bad things got during that weekend for the 300K in attendance.

I remembered the 94 one but not really 99. Pretty interesting and didn’t remember the of how big of a shitfest it was.

I would watch this doc. if i had HBO,i'm sure its interesting.I remember the 99 Woodstock being notorious mostly because of the coverage on MTV and maybe VH1 had some specials about it.And mostly Limp Bizkit basically inciting a riot and getting blamed for the chaos.

I need to pick up HBO for a month and watch the good stuff. I listen to a Russillo and Simmons on the Ringer, who produced this doc. Looking forward to it.

2 hour doc that probably could have been edited down to an hour.

yeah they made them aware of the bad shit happening and instead of trying to get people to chill out, Limp Bizkit egged them on.

Also the fires started during the RHCP set. They asked the Red Hot Chili Peppers before their encore to ask the fans to stop setting fires. Not only did they tell the promoters to **** off they played Jimi Hendricks “Fire” song as an encore to be more in the face of the promoters for daring to ask them to calm things down.

There is being against the man. Being a rebel etc. and then there is deliberately making the violence worse among your own fans on purpose.

I kind of remember that about the RHCP,but i hope they didnt realize the severity of the violence going on at the time they played that song.But,who knows,sounds like maybe they did.Maybe old Fred Dirst took too much of the blame,for starting it,but i never did particulary care for him or his band.

Taking Woodstock is the best Woodstock documentary. Such a nice movie.

About an hour in to this. It’s good. Moby comes off as a P*ssy though

Man, the conditions were disgusting. Overflowing port o potty’s, filth, urine, trash and sh*t everywhere. How did the promoters get away with that?

I'm assuming because of the riots? They don't really address the shortages, toilets etc. except to say they had plenty. We planned well.

The $4 water would be $6 in today's money. I think I've paid $5 for water at many recent events. So thats not such an outrageously priced water that you should riot.

It was just a bad combination of the poor conditions, the heat and the types of bands they programmed. Perfect storm of events that made kids go nuts.

But yea, those prices were not too outrageous. I’m sure the tickets were expensive with all the big name acts.

This was a for profit event. You chose to go knowing its going to be expensive to attend. Expecting free water for 300K fans was and is never going to happen.

A LOT of people without tickets just crashed the place so they were dealing with a much larger capacity than expected.

I had a friend there that called me and told me to "come on up, you don't need tickets".

I don't do concerts w/o box seats unless it's something mellow like Jimmy Buffet or Nicki Bluhm (voice of an angel if you never heard) after a couple bad experiences.

Yea. That was another issue. They mentioned in the doc how security guys basically said “*uck it” and walked off the job.

I liked most of the bands..

Durst At lollapalooza tonight. Doesn’t look like the rebel from the 90’s. Hope it’s some kind of stunt.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I just legit fell off my couch. Ummmmm what happened to Fred Durst?? Holy moly! Haven’t seen Limp Bizkit in years. Wow! <a href="https://t.co/ec0YgwsyqV">pic.twitter.com/ec0YgwsyqV</a></p>&mdash; Tina BoBina (@tina_rva_) <a href="https://twitter.com/tina_rva_/status/1421625153113444355?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That's a wig and he looks like he's from the beastie boys sabotage video..he's playing around.

And/or looks like he’s straight from an old folks home.

I enjoy how in this doc it repeatedly keeps going back to Korn and Limp Bizkit bring agressive...putting 400 k people in 100 degree heat on asphalt with crappy supplies is a recipe for disaster regardless of who's on stage.

Durst has become a film and television show director in recent years.

I've heard in several different interviews that Durst is the nicest guy ever.


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I've heard it enough times for it not to be a one off kind of thing, so I guess I have to believe it, but it's super weird.

Jonathon Davis punched him out after a show once. I forget why.

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My favorite part was the promoter asshole dude shedding any responsibility on his or his company's part at every turn. "Oh it was MTV's fault, oh it was Fred Durst's fault, oh it was the kids' fault, oh it was Anthony Kiedis' fault". Like dude own your shitty promotion of putting this festival on in subpar infrastructure and not having adequate sources of water and food to offset that.

Most bizarre thing was Robby Kreager being invited on stage with Creed lol. I remember back in the 90s The Doors were not exactly a band that most teenagers were into, they were seen as the bad music that their dad listened to. Couple that with performing with Creed, who even in 1999 were something of a joke.

Crazy how people were just walking around butt-ass naked.

That's some bullshit if that's how RHCP were portrayed in the doc.

They told Janie Hendrix that they would play "Fire" as a tribute to Jimi, who, iirc, may have been an iconic performer at the original Woodstock, or something. I remember grampa telling me about Jimi playing the national anthem in a very orthodox and respectful way.

They had obviously planned it, because for the encore break they ALL went and dressed up as Jimi, replete with white fringe leather jackets and headbands, so it wasn't like they decided to play "Fire" at the last second to thumb their noses at anyone.

Sometimes, things have simple explanation if anyone cares to look.

Will quote Eminem here though when I post "mother**** a limp bizkit."

Wrong.

Pussies can take one helluva beating. Pussy beats Moby's ass.

Yes, that’s what the promoter/film says. Nothing in there about a tribute to Hendrix.

Then that film is total ****ing bullshit.

I just watched the three part series on Netflix.

Weird, I had no idea this even happened just like the first one in 69 when I was in Guam.

Hard to believe they let the guitar player from "Red Hot Chili Peppers" play naked with his junk flopping around.

Actually the one I just watched on Netflix had two different references to it. I think it might have been Rage that tried to duplicate Hendrix's Fire.

Then Hendrix was actually on the big screen when the crowd was expecting a surprise live performance and started burning shit up the last night.

I wasn't super present in MTV culture in '99 so I'd never really heard much about Woodstock'99 until I watched this. Holy rape festival batman.

Imagine a fest like that happening now.

Really terrible look for that promoter and anyone who helped organize the event or swept the inhumane and sexual assault breeding ground conditions under the rug.

Fyre fest, Woodstock 99, Astroworld etc.

It’s amazing how people still go to these things and get ripped off, even killed in some cases. The Netflix doc on Woodstock ‘99 showed the promoters of the festival didn’t give a rats rear end about the people. Security cost too much so they hired “peace patrol” Even the one guy Scher, was like “we had 200k people, you know some rapes but 200k people, you can’t control them. We had no way of knowing rapes were happening, they were doing it in tents.” As if that was ok.

The arrogance, but they are gazillionares that make a living ****ing everyone over.

I watched it recently. I was a freshman in high school in 99 so I didn’t really know a damn thing about it.

But holy ****.

Then they did it again with the Fyre Festival. Promotion outruns planning. Seems to be the prevailing approach.

Yeah. That’s cringey as all hell.

FWIW there is another recent documentary on HBO Max

The Netflix series talked more about the after concert raves and that random truck or van that drove into the crowd,while apparently a girl had been assaulted in it.

Also IIRC,someone said sometimes rapes/assaults happened at the front of the stage during the concert.Wtf though how could noboody possibly see that and stop it ?Crazy stuff,but yeah the promoters were some shady ass dudes.

You knew it was going to fail as soon as they mentioned that Woodstock '94 didn't turn a profit....so this one had too.

He basically seemed to be saying "any time you get 200,000 people together a few people are going to get raped, nothing you can do about it"

I'll have to check this out, totally forgot about this. I graduated high school in '99 so was right in that demographic and remember the news coverage of the entire thing becoming a mob scene and burned to the ground.

Then it turns out my roommate freshman year of college had gone to it, and had some good stories about the whole event including having to scramble to get out of there without getting hurt when things went bad.

Wut? Last few huge festivals I've been to made sure water was plenty accessible. They had refill stations. It's a recipe for disaster not to. Granted these guys back then may have created the awareness that water is necessary. Why would any festival want to be liable for getting people sick, not to mention that dehydration just makes people drunker, to make a few bucks.

Watch the documentary.

It's all there.

Oh yeah, I know Woodstock '99 was a disaster. I'm just more surprised brc thinks an all weekend music festival in today's day would make water hard to get. All the ones I remember have water stations.

Oh yeah, at this point, lawyers would have sued for damages and held the promotors liable if shit like that had continued.