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Titty Meat 12-15-2017 12:20 AM

Late Night Bullshit: Where would we be with Foles?
 
Alex Smith has flirted with an MVP season. Foles looked great in relief of Wentz last week.


Last year Foles looked amazing vs Indy and struggled against a good Jaguars defense.

What would this team have gone last year had they stuck with Foles I've Alex? What would their record be with Foles as the starter this year? Keep in mind this team could have signed Foles to be the starter for half the cost of Alex.

007 12-15-2017 12:35 AM

nowhere

Nickhead 12-15-2017 12:35 AM

if foles were better than alex foles would have started. foles playing for the non concussed alex was a benching to wake up smith. other than that he is there for emergency use only. hence why he is starting and not chase daniel. :D

kjwood75nro 12-15-2017 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13284654)
Alex Smith has flirted with an MVP season. Foles looked great in relief of Wentz last week.


Last year Foles looked amazing vs Indy and struggled against a good Jaguars defense.

What would this team have gone last year had they stuck with Foles I've Alex? What would their record be with Foles as the starter this year? Keep in mind this team could have signed Foles to be the starter for half the cost of Alex.

No worse than missing numerous wide-open receivers, taking a lot of gratuitous sacks, and checking down more plays than necessary.

IOW, good (and connected) enough to keep playing but not win playoff game, but not bad enough to replace.

Ming the Merciless 12-15-2017 01:43 AM

1 playoff in in 5 years?

is that the o/u?

TribalElder 12-15-2017 02:08 AM

Disappointed

eDave 12-15-2017 02:14 AM

Exactly the same.

New World Order 12-15-2017 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 13284723)
Exactly the same.

This

thegame214 12-15-2017 02:17 AM

In Kansas City

HemiEd 12-15-2017 04:24 AM

Lost me on your first line. Foles did not look amazing in the relief of Wentz, in fact the difference was dramatic. Yeah, he got the job done but he didn't look amazing.

Why Not? 12-15-2017 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 13284764)
Lost me on your first line. Foles did not look amazing in the relief of Wentz, in fact the difference was dramatic. Yeah, he got the job done but he didn't look amazing.

6-10 for 42 yards. Very Smithian

HemiEd 12-15-2017 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 13284793)
6-10 for 42 yards. Very Smithian

Yep, he didn't lose the game for them but a couple of his throws had me concerned since I had a couple thousand CP dollars on the Eagles. . :D

New World Order 12-15-2017 06:47 AM

We probably lose to NE and Houston with Foles but win the NYG and Buffalo games.

thabear04 12-15-2017 07:33 AM

Foles nearly almost lost to the jags last season.

TeaQue 12-15-2017 08:13 AM

You guys are insane if you think we would being doing anything but worse with Foles over Smith.

Bwana 12-15-2017 09:41 AM

Over the cap.

BlackHelicopters 12-15-2017 09:43 AM

Who?

jspchief 12-15-2017 10:49 AM

Better Mahomes than Foles

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dj56dt58 12-15-2017 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickhead (Post 13284665)
if foles were better than alex foles would have started. foles playing for the non concussed alex was a benching to wake up smith. other than that he is there for emergency use only. hence why he is starting and not chase daniel. :D

It doesn't work like that in KC unfortunately

staylor26 12-15-2017 11:12 AM

Foles hardly looked “great” last week. Not bad, but I definitely wouldn’t call his performance great by any means.

Eleazar 12-15-2017 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13284654)
Alex Smith has flirted with an MVP season.

He "flirted with it" for about 5 weeks.

mcaj22 12-15-2017 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by thabear04 (Post 13284824)
Foles nearly almost lost to the jags last season.

and? Alex has lost to some pretty terrible garbage teams this year, whats his excuse?

Titty Meat 12-15-2017 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13285165)
Foles hardly looked “great” last week. Not bad, but I definitely wouldn’t call his performance great by any means.

Better than any performance by a Miami QB this season tho

Reerun_KC 12-15-2017 01:37 PM

Alex flirting with MVP? That was a train wreck worth watching.

JakeF 12-15-2017 01:59 PM

Alex Smith > Nick Foles

hometeam 12-15-2017 02:23 PM

Foles is still the best backup in the league. I would start him over a handful of guys as well.

O.city 12-15-2017 04:38 PM

Foles is a good backup

ToxSocks 12-15-2017 04:49 PM

Where would we be? We'd be starting Mahomes right now, that's where.

Pasta Little Brioni 12-15-2017 05:07 PM

Dumb****s

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 12-15-2017 05:08 PM

5-8?

staylor26 12-15-2017 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13285451)
Better than any performance by a Miami QB this season tho

Not really. Rosier sucks, but he had some good performances due to the talent around him.

RippedmyFlesh 12-15-2017 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudy won the toss (Post 13285972)
5-8?

That sounds about right. Foles is one of the best backups and may be better than some starters and put up big numbers early in his career. But smith wins a couple more than foles. Not saying much though that your starter is slightly better than the league's best backup.

Deberg_1990 12-16-2017 06:23 AM

7-6

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-16-2017 08:19 AM

Taking a dump while simultaneously talking to that one relative you can't stand.

Reerun_KC 12-17-2017 07:16 PM

Well at least he can beat the Giants.

jjchieffan 12-17-2017 07:54 PM

Foles looked good today. Threw some nice passes into tight coverage.

Chiefshrink 12-17-2017 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 13292841)
Foles looked good today. Threw some nice passes into tight coverage.

Yep. Pederson was smart to sign him because they don't miss a beat.

Titty Meat 01-21-2018 08:51 PM

Super Bowl

-King- 01-21-2018 08:54 PM

Awaiting Mahomes 1st start just like we are now. Except we wouldn't be expecting to get a good picture trading Foles like we are with Smith.
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Coochie liquor 01-21-2018 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 13375497)
Awaiting Mahomes 1st start just like we are now. Except we wouldn't be expecting to get a good picture trading Foles like we are with Smith.
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I feel like he started against Dungver. But maybe I was just dreaming...

JakeF 01-21-2018 08:57 PM

Foles looked like shit in KC under our QB genius.

Hammock Parties 01-21-2018 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 13375512)
Foles looked like shit in KC under our QB genius.

Wrong.

He had one very good game, and one below average game, which we still won, in the same fashion we won a lot of Alex's games in KC.

The two TD passes Foles threw from distance tonight are throws Alex never even attempts. He's running on both throws due to pressure/perceived pressure.

I dunno where this team would be with Foles instead of Alex, but I've NEVER seen him try to take off running like a dumbass from clean pockets, which killed our ****ing season.

We won one playoff game in five seasons with ASS11. Foles has won two in one season.

It is what it is.

Smith was a ****ing waste, Foles might have been, too, but I bet he wouldn't have cost this team as much.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-21-2018 09:03 PM

A good game against the Colts is something we are bragging about now? ****ing Clay

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-21-2018 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 13292870)
Yep. Pederson was smart to sign him because they don't miss a beat.

Pederson looks like a genius right now. This is exactly why QB depth is so important, especially one that understands the system

-King- 01-21-2018 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 13375507)
I feel like he started against Dungver. But maybe I was just dreaming...

Started season lol. You know what I meant.
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Hammock Parties 01-21-2018 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut (Post 13375523)
A good game against the Colts is something we are bragging about now? ****ing Clay

Alex Smith had a bad game against the Giants.

****ing Tiger.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-21-2018 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13375534)
Alex Smith had a bad game against the Giants.

****ing Tiger.

Alex Smith is the 3rd winningest QB over the last 5 seasons.

Where does Foles rank?

Enjoy your ban you dumb *****.

Red Dawg 01-21-2018 09:27 PM

Foles would have beat the Titans. Alex is trash and Foles just beat a real defense. Alex doesn't do that.

Hammock Parties 01-21-2018 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut (Post 13375582)
Alex Smith is the 3rd winningest QB over the last 5 seasons.

Where does Foles rank?

Post season accomplishments trump regular season.

You still don't get it.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-21-2018 09:36 PM

Foles > Tony Romo.
-Clay

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-21-2018 09:43 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“Foles now has as many career playoff victories — two — as Tony Romo and Alex Smith — and one more than Jay Cutler and Carson Palmer.” <a href="https://t.co/JRZ3mu3ioJ">https://t.co/JRZ3mu3ioJ</a></p>&mdash; Tony Lucero (@TonyMLucero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyMLucero/status/955281538832216064?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 22, 2018</a></blockquote>
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jd1020 01-21-2018 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut (Post 13375582)
Alex Smith is the 3rd winningest QB over the last 5 seasons.

Where does Foles rank?

QB's to have played in a SB in the last 5 years...

Tom Brady
Matt Ryan
Peyton Manning
Cam Newton
Russell Wilson
Joe Flacco
Colin Kaepernick

... and soon to be Nick Foles.

Notice a key omission?

Who gives a **** about winning % when you haven't actually won shit. 1 conference championship appearance in ****ing 13 years. Suck a dick.

RunKC 01-21-2018 09:55 PM

Tiger triggered bc Alex’s backup is in the SB. But hey Alex has experience watching his former backup starting in a SB.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-21-2018 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13375656)
Tiger triggered bc Alex’s backup is in the SB. But hey Alex has experience watching his former backup starting in a SB.

Indeed.

The sidelines are a wonderful place for King Cuck.

kcxiv 01-21-2018 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut (Post 13375632)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“Foles now has as many career playoff victories — two — as Tony Romo and Alex Smith — and one more than Jay Cutler and Carson Palmer.” <a href="https://t.co/JRZ3mu3ioJ">https://t.co/JRZ3mu3ioJ</a></p>&mdash; Tony Lucero (@TonyMLucero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyMLucero/status/955281538832216064?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 22, 2018</a></blockquote>
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AND HE DID THAT IN 1 SEASON. Other guys have almost 30 years combined!

Eleazar 01-21-2018 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 13375655)
QB's to have played in a SB in the last 5 years...

Tom Brady
Matt Ryan
Peyton Manning
Cam Newton
Russell Wilson
Joe Flacco
Colin Kaepernick

... and soon to be Nick Foles.

Notice a key omission?

Yes. Every QB who was starting for Andy Reid.

jd1020 01-21-2018 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 13375867)
Yes. Every QB who was starting for Andy Reid.

An army of one.

Buehler445 01-22-2018 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13375518)
Wrong.

He had one very good game, and one below average game, which we still won, in the same fashion we won a lot of Alex's games in KC.

The two TD passes Foles threw from distance tonight are throws Alex never even attempts. He's running on both throws due to pressure/perceived pressure.

I dunno where this team would be with Foles instead of Alex, but I've NEVER seen him try to take off running like a dumbass from clean pockets, which killed our ****ing season.

We won one playoff game in five seasons with ASS11. Foles has won two in one season.

It is what it is.

Smith was a ****ing waste, Foles might have been, too, but I bet he wouldn't have cost this team as much.

To be fair he doesn’t run because he’s slower than me. But yeah. Whatever. I do think Smith is better than Foles but when Foles is on he can sling it

Coogs 01-22-2018 06:36 AM

Smith did have his NFC Championship game appearance. 1-13 on 3rd down in a narrow loss. Had some weapons too. Crabtree, Davis, and Gore. O-line was considered one of the best too.

Red Dawg 01-22-2018 06:43 AM

Bum is the name for Smith. That's what a QB is when they can't beat good teams. Smith is way to inconsistent to win anything. He goes to sleep in games and you lose when you need to win in the playoffs

BigRedChief 01-22-2018 06:59 AM

if Mahomes was the QB of the Vikings, they'd scored 100 points.

oldman 01-22-2018 08:06 AM

We'd probably be in the same place we are now, sitting at home, watching some other teams, and bitching about it. Even Foles knows he's going to be the back up next year.

Reerun_KC 01-22-2018 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldman (Post 13376086)
We'd probably be in the same place we are now, sitting at home, watching some other teams, and bitching about it. Even Foles knows he's going to be the back up next year.



You have a link for this? He’s backup and where?

007 01-22-2018 08:50 AM

We would be nowhere with foles. Just like we are nowhere with smith. My fear is being nowhere with mahomes, because I'm starting to believe Reid is the real problem.

This isn't me saying Alex is ok now. I still think he is gutless and plays it too safe. We are seeing a trend with Andy now and is truly horrifying.

stumppy 01-22-2018 09:08 AM

The same place we're at now. Until Andy butt ****ing moron Reid is gone this is where we will stay.

PunkinDrublic 01-22-2018 09:08 AM

I’m convinced Andy Reid would still find a way to **** it up. We’ve added play makers to this offense every ****ing year and he still finds ways to go into a shell and go three and out with these chickenshit horizontal play calls when we have the opportunity to put games away. Tennessee was ready to give up, you could see their defensive players frustration. Suddenly the Chiefs go into a shell and it totally seemed to give them confidence.

Coogs 01-22-2018 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 007 (Post 13376121)
We would be nowhere with foles. Just like we are nowhere with smith. My fear is being nowhere with mahomes, because I'm starting to believe Reid is the real problem.

This isn't me saying Alex is ok now. I still think he is gutless and plays it too safe. We are seeing a trend with Andy now and is truly horrifying.

I don't have this fear with Mahomes. The offense looked different with Mahomes in Denver. Now the plays were the same, but it was how Mahomes attacked it. He throws to an open Harris. Smith doesn't/won't at a critical time against the Titans. Mahomes throws to the open Hill sprinting past the Steelers defense in the playoffs because he sees it pre snap. Smith won't throw it because "it's not in his progression of reads". With Mahomes we attack downfield when the defense jumps offsides. With Smith we take the free five yards. Third and long. Mahomes throws to the sticks. Smith checks it down.

I don't fear Andy turning Mahomes into Smith. Andy has said he wished he could have had Smith earlier in his career. He knows he can't fix Alex. He can't t make Alex into Mahomes.

chiefzilla1501 01-22-2018 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Servant_KC (Post 13376099)
You have a link for this? He’s backup and where?

It's not really Foles' call to make. If Philly wants to keep him, and they might if Wentz is not 100%, they might with the thought that he will be backup when he returns. No way Philly would ever consider starting Foles over Wentz.

Wouldn't be surprised if the eagles make Foles prime trade bait at the trade deadline next year.

King_Chief_Fan 01-22-2018 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 007 (Post 13376121)
We would be nowhere with foles. Just like we are nowhere with smith. My fear is being nowhere with mahomes, because I'm starting to believe Reid is the real problem.

This isn't me saying Alex is ok now. I still think he is gutless and plays it too safe. We are seeing a trend with Andy now and is truly horrifying.

Yes

oldman 01-22-2018 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Servant_KC (Post 13376099)
You have a link for this? He’s backup and where?

It was a question and answer in an Erin Andrews interview with him during the pre-game show yesterday. I'm guessing he meant in Philly.

SuperBowl4 01-22-2018 11:13 AM

Andy Reid was HC of the Eagles when they drafted FOLES. The next year Chip Kelly became HC in Philly he said (Foles) he was the starting QB for the next 1,000 years here (Philly)

SuperBowl4 01-22-2018 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic (Post 13376136)
I’m convinced Andy Reid would still find a way to **** it up. We’ve added play makers to this offense every ****ing year and he still finds ways to go into a shell and go three and out with these chickenshit horizontal play calls when we have the opportunity to put games away. Tennessee was ready to give up, you could see their defensive players frustration. Suddenly the Chiefs go into a shell and it totally seemed to give them confidence.

Andy like to play a close game. Reid would never have ran up the score yesterday if in that position

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-22-2018 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 007 (Post 13376121)
We would be nowhere with foles. Just like we are nowhere with smith. My fear is being nowhere with mahomes, because I'm starting to believe Reid is the real problem.

This isn't me saying Alex is ok now. I still think he is gutless and plays it too safe. We are seeing a trend with Andy now and is truly horrifying.

If he's now in complete control, we are most definitely ****ed.

SuperBowl4 01-23-2018 06:41 AM

FOLES will probably put up another seven TD game vs. the Patriots in the Super Bowl but the ref's will go flag happy and take them away. The players play and the Ref's are the directors of the plays. They decide the outcome.


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