Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17416964)

DK Metcalf fell bc he had a serious neck injury that teams weren't sure about. He also had a good awful 3 come (7.38) showing poor lateral agility. The medical on him was he was a broke dick going on season ending surgery in 2 of 3 years at Ole Miss.

McLaurin was an interesting player. Guys that show well fall nearly every year. Tank Dell is a good example of a talented player that lit up the Sr Bowl and still fell to rd 3. McLaurin was also the 12th WR drafted. His own team passed on him twice.

Originally Posted by CaptainMorgan (Post 17416985)

Mahomes put him in his place in the moment, but I heard him asked about it afterwards (I think on McAfee?) and he appreciated it. He liked the fact that Rice wanted the ball and was competing his ass off. Not totally dissimilar from the Kelce/Reid interaction. We got guys who want to go through walls to win. They’ll maybe go at each other a bit in the moment but at the end of the day they appreciate it in one another. Game respects game.

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 17416996)

I don't think this is true. Yeah some guys(including Kelce) struggled with some drops and routes but once Rice emerged we were fine. I think Andy knew it was going to be a work in progress but in the end we found our identity.

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 17416995)

The better analogy is we were driving the car with the wrong sized tires on three of the wheels. There wasn’t anything wrong with the engine or the driver, but when you have three clown car wheels and one normal wheel it’s hard to get where you want to go. Once Andy changed the tires things worked out fine.

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 17417000)

We adjusted the air pressure in the tires and took out a round of wedge and by the last stage of the race we were fast enough to win the race.

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17416918)

Hardman wasn't a bust. He was made useful enough in that version of the KC offense because there were already 2 HOF weapons clearing space and even a WR in Hardman who couldn't crack the WORST offensive skill weapons in the NFL did something for us.

But should we be aspiring to selecting another Hardman?

I don't think so.

I would rather take a DK Metcalf or a Terry McLaurin, both of who I thought were 1st round talents that year or a Diontae Johnson, a MAC receiver I loved later on.

If we had taken Terry McLaurin over Hardman I don't think Cinci ever beats us the year they went to the SB. Our offense would have been too deadly with

Tyreek Hill
McLaurin
Kelce

No one stopping that even the brilliant Lou.


I think a lot of the teams that think its their turn or time like Cinci, Baltimore, Buffalo, Houston, Indy, etc are praying KC continues to give Mahomes one of the worst WR groups in the NFL.

I would prefer to give Mahomes the tools to destroy people. That also helps the defense because the pressure is now on teams and they can't kill clock, run power all game which they got away with a lot last year.

The other issue that people keep glossing over is Kelce. He looked younger in the playoffs but why beat him up game after game after game next year?

This is a loaded WR draft. Get an elite weapon on offense that can grow into that role.

Take the vertical decoy in the 3rd, 4th or 5th round in addition to the alpha round 1.

Time to draft some offense and grab a high traits LT possibility in the 2nd or 3rd to compete with Wanya and let the best man win.

Originally Posted by kozzman555 (Post 17417003)

The people that don't understand that haven't been in a hypercompetitive, alpha male, testosterone saturated environment. You will see that shit all the time in line units in the military, and then we go get drunk together afterwards. That's what you WANT to see from our guys. Bunch of dudes all wanting the ball, knowing they can step up and be counted on. They will kill to win.

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 17417006)

I think we’re saying the same thing. Rice emerging led to Toney and Moore seeing less and less time. It took him longer than I think we would have liked, but Andy eventually fixed the problem with that move and we got the added bonus of playoffs MVS to turn the corner.

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 17417012)

I’ll give you the air pressure analogy in the MVS tire. ;)

But going into the season hoping Toney and Moore would figure it out was absolutely putting a couple clown car tires on the offense.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17417016)

I didn’t say draft another Hardman. I said knocking that pick as proof the Chiefs don’t know what they’re doing at WR/can’t draft WR is off.

It IS a good WR draft with lots of depth. What you really seem to be overlooking is that the WRs likely to be available at 32 are no more likely to develop into “alpha” WR than the guys likely to be available in the 2nd.

Saying “stop ****ing around and draft a true #1 or sign one in FA” is easier said than done.

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 17417047)

Why draft a Hardman, when you can just keep him. I think he learned the grass isn’t always greener. On a team friendly deal I’d love to keep his speed on the team.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17417055)

The offense revolves around the qb playing to his potential. If we need all these hall of fame level guys around him we need a refund