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duncan_idaho 06-05-2018 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13582178)
Yeah, Kieboom wasn't on my radar at all (Soto was though). And as I was watching Soto and mostly just laughing at how badly he was wrecking everyone, I noticed this Kieboom guy also playing really well.

It would be a balls or bust move for the Nationals, man. I mean they could theoretically lose Harper and STILL have one of the top 5 OFs in baseball by 2020 with Robles, Eaton and Soto out there. With Scherzer, Strasburg and Turner still having gas in the tank, maybe Rendon goes back to 2b and Kieboom makes his way to 3b. That's still a team that could contend.

But that Braves system has to get teams with a 'win now' window pretty damn nervous. Do you try to 'out-youth' the Braves via a re-load or push in, get your ring and let Ted Lerner die in peace?

But hey, if we know anything, it's that Rizzo will do the wrong thing and then get extended for it. That guy is the Mike Matheny of general managers. That's a Teflon sumbitch to be sure.


The Nats should be pushing all in for this year. Time is now.

Adding players like Perez and possibly Merrifield would be useful in the future, too. Gives them insurance for Murphy this year, improves their C situation a ton for the next 3 years.

Kieboom’s combo of plate discipline and pop is really looking strong this year in a tough hitters league.

Discuss Thrower 06-05-2018 11:27 AM

Salvy becoming a national superstar in the DC market would only be worth it if the Royals got back 2-3 key players in the next decade's WS run.

duncan_idaho 06-05-2018 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 13582204)
Salvy becoming a national superstar in the DC market would only be worth it if the Royals got back 2-3 key players in the next decade's WS run.


That’s what Robles, Kieboom and Garcia would all offer.

Robles is a top 10 prospect with a high floor because of his speed, defense, and hit tool. Still only 20, I believe.

Names to watch today (that would make this draft really successful at first blush):

Nander de Sedas, SS/3B (tough HS signing, top 30 consensus talent)

Kumar Rocker, Cole Wilcox, Daniel Klopfenstein RHp (huge upside Hs arms with solid college commitments)

siberian khatru 06-05-2018 12:10 PM

Today's Royals draft theme appears to be: college outfielders

So far, that's seven straight college players they've drafted

Chris Meck 06-05-2018 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 13582304)
Today's Royals draft theme appears to be: college outfielders

So far, that's seven straight college players they've drafted

looking for faster impact.

KChiefs1 06-05-2018 12:28 PM

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RockChalk 06-05-2018 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 13582365)
looking for faster impact.

They've also been burned by some HS guys in previous drafts...going with safe signing bets, plus yes, hopefully a faster impact

duncan_idaho 06-05-2018 02:36 PM

The Royals are loading up on easy signs in the back half of the top 10, which tells me they’re going to make a serious run at one of the big prep talents after run 10.

Nander
de
Sadas

Let’s do this thing.

KChiefs1 06-05-2018 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13582622)
The Royals are loading up on easy signs in the back half of the top 10, which tells me they’re going to make a serious run at one of the big prep talents after run 10.

Nander
de
Sadas

Let’s do this thing.



Has Rocker been taken yet?

duncan_idaho 06-05-2018 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 13582724)
Has Rocker been taken yet?


No.

He and Wilcox and de Sedas are all still available.

Teams will take stabs at them in rounds 11+, when they won’t lose slot money if they don’t sign.

Hope the Royals are one of those teams.

BWillie 06-05-2018 05:05 PM

LOL we went the college arms route. Probably about the worst possible strategy in my opinion. I equate it to a flailing college football coach signing JUCOs so they can keep their job for longer.

I just don't have faith in our org's ability to find and develop high talent SPs or any baseball scouts opinion of pitching. I'd rather spend it on bats and flip them later for MLB ready pitching prospects. There may be an argument to virtually NEVER draft pitchers higher than Round 5 because of their unpredictability compared to bats.

WhawhaWhat 06-05-2018 08:23 PM

Walking Simmons to get that bum Trout to hit into the DP. Well played.

duncan_idaho 06-05-2018 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 13582844)
LOL we went the college arms route. Probably about the worst possible strategy in my opinion. I equate it to a flailing college football coach signing JUCOs so they can keep their job for longer.

I just don't have faith in our org's ability to find and develop high talent SPs or any baseball scouts opinion of pitching. I'd rather spend it on bats and flip them later for MLB ready pitching prospects. There may be an argument to virtually NEVER draft pitchers higher than Round 5 because of their unpredictability compared to bats.


Success rate on hitters in round one since 1965 is practically indistinguishable from success rate on hitters, which invalidates a big part of your argument.

The Royals have drafted a lot of projectable HS arms, which has the biggest boom/bust rate. I’m glad to see them moving away from that.

Premium hitters, then college pitchers, then HS pitchers is a good general order ...

But there were not many premium hitters left for KC. They could have taken Schnell at 18, would have been an overdraft. Other than him, not a true premium hitter/bat between Singer and 33/34.

Great Expectations 06-05-2018 08:45 PM

Why is Ned playing Salvy at catcher and DHing Butera?

Chris Meck 06-05-2018 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Great Expectations (Post 13583066)
Why is Ned playing Salvy at catcher and DHing Butera?


ummm...because Salvy is a better catcher?


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