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KC_Connection 04-05-2023 11:51 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is either going to propel Tyler O’Neill to a monster season or it’s going to create a super awkward vibe in the Cardinals clubhouse. No in between. <a href="https://t.co/YQcPC3mUPZ">pic.twitter.com/YQcPC3mUPZ</a></p>&mdash; Jared Carrabis (@Jared_Carrabis) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jared_Carrabis/status/1643669589358780423?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 5, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yeah, he hates the guy.

BigRedChief 04-05-2023 11:52 AM

Marmol keeps O’Neill out of the lineup today. Says publicly it’s for last nights error.

This is weird. Must be a back story or previous clash between them.

raybec 4 04-05-2023 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16890942)
Marmol keeps O’Neill out of the lineup today. Says publicly it’s for last nights error.

This is weird. Must be a back story or previous clash between them.

Or there is no previous story and Ollie is just a petulant prick who is trying to compensate for being a shitty manager by being a shittier person.

DJ's left nut 04-05-2023 12:15 PM

****ing Tyler O'Neill giving up 5 runs in the first 4...

DJ's left nut 04-05-2023 12:18 PM

Another out at home. Got the stones to bench Goldschmidt, Ollie - feckless ****.

jd1020 04-05-2023 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16891009)
Another out at home. Got the stones to bench Goldschmidt, Ollie - feckless ****.

He's going to love Contreras' base running.

DJ's left nut 04-05-2023 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16891010)
He's going to love Contreras' base running.

Nah - he'll ignore it.

This is the typical Mozeliak prelude to a trade. Shit on the guys value then dump him for Rich Hill.

Rams Fan 04-05-2023 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16891023)
Nah - he'll ignore it.

This is the typical Mozeliak prelude to a trade. Shit on the guys value then dump him for Rich Hill.

TON for Rich Hill is an exaggeration, but probably not too far from the truth.

DJ's left nut 04-05-2023 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 16891046)
TON for Rich Hill is an exaggeration, but probably not too far from the truth.

Would Moe see it as acknowledging a mistake if he traded him back for Marco Gonzalez?

Because you know he's getting dealt for some past his prime LHSP. Probably one that's making too much money but still not THAT much money.

Mike Minor is a free agent but if he were on a roster somewhere making $10 million, Mozeliak would be chomping at the bit to get a team to absorb $2 million of that and deal him at a 'discount' for O'Neill.

raybec 4 04-05-2023 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16891080)
Would Moe see it as acknowledging a mistake if he traded him back for Marco Gonzalez?

Because you know he's getting dealt for some past his prime LHSP. Probably one that's making too much money but still not THAT much money.

Mike Minor is a free agent but if he were on a roster somewhere making $10 million, Mozeliak would be chomping at the bit to get a team to absorb $2 million of that and deal him at a 'discount' for O'Neill.

Dallas Keuchel come on down!

DJ's left nut 04-05-2023 01:01 PM

I've got it! Alex Wood.

The Giants have Kyle Harrison in the minors to step into Wood's rotation role. They're always looking for power bats that can drive a ball through that bay air.

Just go ahead and mark it down - O'Neill for Alex Wood. The Giants take on $3 million of the $12.5 million he's owed this year and they throw in a 24 year old relief pitcher in A ball who throws 94 with no command.

DJ's left nut 04-05-2023 01:03 PM

Nice high finish on that bomb from Walker. Saw the inside pitch, dropped the bat head and whacked the shit out of it. Good swing on that pitch, though the lack of velocity made it a bit easier.

And man, Edman hasn't had his top and bottom half synced up all year. His top half keeps saying oppo while his bottom half is opening for pull. He's taking some nasty looking swings up there. Just way out of whack.

DJ's left nut 04-05-2023 01:43 PM

So right now the first line in Jordan Walker's advanced scouting report needs to be "Don't come inside on him at less than 95 mph"

Because if you come in there at 93, he's gonna get that front foot opened up, flip those hips and drive it. I think higher velocity will still jam him or have him pulling tanks foul, because his hands are a little long to the hitting zone (so he can't get inside that ball and drive it while keeping it fair), but brotha, if you come inside you'd better come inside real hard or not get any of the plate with it. Because he's gonna hit something at 110 mph and if you're lucky it's just a double.

DJ's left nut 04-05-2023 01:44 PM

Tommy Edman - still a trainwreck.

jd1020 04-05-2023 04:56 PM

This video popped up on my youtube algorithm and I'm only posting it because its the only time I've seen O'Neill's entire run from 2nd to home.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/BvdgtfHo6Tw?start=183" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I dunno. If you are going to say he was dogging it around 3rd you are going to have to say he was dogging it the whole time because I dont see any real speed change the entire time.


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