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staylor26 10-09-2018 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 13803258)
Sinfixant ....you corrected it but :LOL:

LMAO

I try to type wayyy too fast.

staylor26 10-09-2018 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13803256)
He's also surrounded by crap like Smith, Ragland, and Murray.

Yea that certainly doesn’t help.

I think he’s done fine though. It hasn’t been all bad or good, just needs to be more consistent and play a little faster. I think the defense took a big step forward this past week with tackling and playing fast. Hopefully we continue to see that.

mcaj22 10-09-2018 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13803251)
Hitchens is terrible?

He hasn’t quite lived up to his contract, but he’s playing better than DJ did last year and he’s probably still learning the defense.

This is much different than the defense he played in Dallas and we’re 5 games in. You don’t get to learn on the field in TC these days given how short they are. Not to mention he missed a significant portion due to injury. Some of you guys have no patience man.

He's not a 5th round draft pick. He doesn't get a free pass or time in year 1 to develop. He is a big ticket FA acquisition. He's paid a premium and I am sure they expecting a lot more from him than what they have gotten on their return so far. His coverage skills are terrible. Teams are converting on him at a very high rate. He can't stop a turtle from catching a pass. He's currently the 7th highest paid inside LBer in the entire NFL and he's certainly not playing like it. He's not Breeland Speaks he doesn't get a 1 season pass in a 45 million dollar deal to hope he figures it out in year 2.

htismaqe 10-09-2018 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 13803271)
He's not a 5th round draft pick. He doesn't get a free pass or time in year 1 to develop. He is a big ticket FA acquisition. He's paid a premium and I am sure they expecting a lot more from him than what they have gotten on their return so far. His coverage skills are terrible. Teams are converting on him at a very high rate. He can't stop a turtle from catching a pass. He's currently the 7th highest paid inside LBer in the entire NFL and he's certainly not playing like it. He's not Breeland Speaks he doesn't get a 1 season pass in a 45 million dollar deal to hope he figures it out in year 2.

Nobody is giving him a free pass but there are legitimate reasons he's now playing well right not, not the least of which is that he's in a completely different system and didn't play at all in preseason.

There's a reason he was a $45M free agent and it's because he doesn't suck.

O.city 10-09-2018 05:53 PM

He didn’t suck in Dallas but he’s sucked here

He’s gotta play better

htismaqe 10-09-2018 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13803298)
He didn’t suck in Dallas but he’s sucked here

He’s gotta play better

That generally points to a situational issue, not a talent issue.

O.city 10-09-2018 05:59 PM

Points to he’s probably not good in the system

Which isn’t ideal

htismaqe 10-09-2018 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13803318)
Points to he’s probably not good in the system

Which isn’t ideal

That's one possible situation but there are others. You can't really infer the cause simply from that. All we really know is that he was good in Dallas and hasn't really been here.

pugsnotdrugs19 10-09-2018 06:39 PM

Hitchens has flashed several times at least with big plays. He should only get more consistent with each week that he acclimated to this defense.

mcaj22 10-09-2018 07:01 PM

He doesn't look like a 3 down LBer at all in this defense and he's being paid like a fringe pro bowl/all pro. If you have a chance to get a coverage backer like Bucannon, they should do it.

Titty Meat 10-09-2018 07:03 PM

Some broke dick on Twitter is saying were working on a deal for Reddick. One of the best cover backers in the league played safety at Temple if I recall.

Mecca 10-09-2018 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13803318)
Points to he’s probably not good in the system

Which isn’t ideal

I think the system needs to change anyway, I actually have an interesting idea for what I think the future of defense is.

The Franchise 10-09-2018 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13803566)
I think the system needs to change anyway, I actually have an interesting idea for what I think the future of defense is.

Let’s hear it.

Mecca 10-09-2018 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by The Pest (Post 13803584)
Let’s hear it.

I think the future of defense with all of the passing and then teams running against small sets to take advantage of it is basically this.

You're going to line up in what basically looks like a 4-3. However it's going to be a specialized style of 4-3 with some really big ****ers that can stop the run. Basically a type of 4-3 where Chris Jones plays strong side end there are 2 massive DT's and you have a guy like Dee Ford as a moveable versatile rusher. This way you can play the run and get pressure out of your front.

I think that will then move to the 3 LB's that play behind that being smaller more athletic guys because they are only there to cleanup the run but mainly deal with all of the passing routes.

Secondary will depend on scheme but I think playing a lot of man is going to become something no one does so I think you'll see a ton of zone and teams looking for safeties that have corner speed and cover abilities.

That's my thought I could be wrong but that to me seems to be where defense might be able to play with the way the rules are now.

RunKC 10-09-2018 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13803298)
He didn’t suck in Dallas but he’s sucked here

He’s gotta play better

This is a bad narrative. Hitchens has played well.

Ragland has been the one who has been horrible.


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