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Rausch 06-26-2017 01:40 PM

DISNEY will be shocked when the expanded SWU makes less than the MCU.

And if the Comix aspect doesn't start un-****ing itself that's going to go down as well...

DaneMcCloud 06-26-2017 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 12932437)
DISNEY will be shocked when the expanded SWU makes less than the MCU.

And if the Comix aspect doesn't start un-****ing itself that's going to go down as well...

It doesn't matter, as Disney has already recouped their initial $4 billion dollar purchase.

But let's not pretend that Marvel hasn't made shitty movies. Iron Man 2, Thor 2 and so on.

Hammock Parties 06-26-2017 04:32 PM

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Bowser 06-26-2017 04:42 PM

Sounds like Rogue One messed up their entire view of the SWU. Rogue One IS a dark movie, in spite of Gilroy's re-shoots, and it not only is an amazing Star Wars film but was a financial triumph for Disney. It seems like this Han Solo movie was going to play on a young Solo with his swagger and "aw-shucks" confidence, leading to a light hearted movie. But with R1 fresh in everyone's minds, maybe they felt a little more serious angle needed to be taken?

That's all just speculation on my part, but I do stand by my theory that Rogue One showed KK, Lucasfilms, and Disney that there is another way to shoot a Star Wars movie; that the ESB format does appeal to a mass audience....

DaneMcCloud 06-26-2017 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 12932669)
Sounds like Rogue One messed up their entire view of the SWU. Rogue One IS a dark movie, in spite of Gilroy's re-shoots, and it not only is an amazing Star Wars film but was a financial triumph for Disney. It seems like this Han Solo movie was going to play on a young Solo with his swagger and "aw-shucks" confidence, leading to a light hearted movie. But with R1 fresh in everyone's minds, maybe they felt a little more serious angle needed to be taken?

That's all just speculation on my part, but I do stand by my theory that Rogue One showed KK, Lucasfilms, and Disney that there is another way to shoot a Star Wars movie; that the ESB format does appeal to a mass audience....

Nah.

Kasdan wrote a script which KK approved. Lord & Miller continued to deviate from the tone of the script to the point where it wasn't even the same script.

Kasdan lost his shit and so did KK. Lord & Miller fired. Boom.

The hiring of an acting coach isn't odd but it's odd when it's late in the filming schedule. The firing of the editor and the hiring of an Oscar winner reveals that they're trying as best they can to avoid re-shooting the entire movie but it won't be shocking if after filming ends in September, they once again, schedule reshoots in November or January.

I'll be surprised if the entire movie isn't re-shot under the direction of Ron Howard.

The "cheers" from the crew after Ron Howard was revealed as the new director is quite telling.

DaneMcCloud 06-26-2017 05:00 PM

Also, I'll add that "Universe Building" is quite difficult.

JJ Abrams co-wrote his script with Kasdan, who wrote Empire and ROTJ, so Abrams had a leg up on that script. He also bitched enough (which I leaked way back during the filming) that he got his "way" most of the time. Being an Editor and Composer helped Abrams vision of TFA as well (although I personally disliked the story).

Any criticism of Gareth Edwards is ridiculous. KK, the Lucasfilm story team and Iger approved the script and it was shot exactly as scripted. After Iger and KK saw an edited version (sans VFX), the decision to make the film "darker" was made and Tony Gilroy, who'd worked with Gareth before, was hired to rewrite and direct, while Gareth worked with the VFX team for the final battle.

Fortunately for us fans, Lucasfilm, KK and Disney have nearly endless pockets so they're able to make corrections if the films are not up to the standard set by the OT.

Also, this process will only help KK and the story group as they move forward so that she'll be able to avoid this type of pitfall for the next standalone film.

unlurking 06-26-2017 05:16 PM

I've been pretty skeptical of a Han Solo prequel, mostly on the grounds that portraying a young Ford/Solo incredibly difficult. While Han is definitely an irreverent rogue, he needs a role that is action oriented and high risk. Not just a platform for jokes. I can't see the departure of Lord and Miller as anything but a good thing.

What worries me most is the actor playing Solo. I'll defer to Dane in regards to the timing and use of acting coaches, but I have little hope he'll be any good.

unlurking 06-26-2017 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12929211)
It'll happen and the announcement might even come this summer.

I hope so! Do we know what the next stand alone film will be? Any chance it's Kenobi?

DaneMcCloud 06-26-2017 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 12932710)
What worries me most is the actor playing Solo. I'll defer to Dane in regards to the timing and use of acting coaches, but I have little hope he'll be any good.

The only reason I have any hope that Ehrenreich will be any good at this role is he beat out 2,500 other actors, including Taron Edgerton.

Personally, I'd have rather seen Ehrenreich as a young Han Solo in a different standalone as a cameo, or with just a few minutes of screen time, then decide whether or not to move forward with a full blown movie featuring a young Han Solo.

DaneMcCloud 06-26-2017 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 12932711)
I hope so! Do we know what the next stand alone film will be? Any chance it's Kenobi?

I've been hearing Kenobi for quite a while but the last thing I heard was that they wanted to wait until the Episode IX script was completed so that they wouldn't step on his legacy or pin Trevorrow into a corner.

As far as I know, the Epi IX script is in the polishing stage with shooting to begin January (some shooting is supposed to take place this summer but I think it's more likely to be exteriors).

sd4chiefs 06-26-2017 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 12932710)
What worries me most is the actor playing Solo. I'll defer to Dane in regards to the timing and use of acting coaches, but I have little hope he'll be any good.

Everyone should be worried. I hate this guy.

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unlurking 06-26-2017 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12932713)
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Personally, I'd have rather seen Ehrenreich as a young Han Solo in a different standalone as a cameo, or with just a few minutes of screen time, then decide whether or not to move forward with a full blown movie featuring a young Han Solo.

That makes too much sense to actually do.

Deberg_1990 06-26-2017 06:19 PM

Do they have the stones to fire Ehrenreich this late in the game? Ala, Eric Stoltz in Back to the Future

DaneMcCloud 06-26-2017 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 12932775)
Do they have the stones to fire Ehrenreich this late in the game? Ala, Eric Stoltz in Back to the Future

If Ron Howard comes to the realization that Ehrenreich needs to be replaced, I think they scrap the entire movie.

007 06-26-2017 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 12928785)
I still say the storyline of the original KOTOR is better than anything in the movies. That moment when you realize you're Revan.... holy shit.

Spoiler that shit man. I might play it one day. :D


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