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Former LAPD officer on rampage in So Cal (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=269787)

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9398008)

police scanner just said there were escape routes from the basement

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Originally Posted by HoneyBadger (Post 9398003)

No. He got in a pursuit prior. Then went running into the cabin. I don't think the hostages ran with him haha

Maybe he is really good at enlisting Stockholm Syndrome.

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9397963)

You wait him out.

Let him starve if you have to. Shut off the water.

If he dies then it's on him.

I mean shit standoffs happen quite frequently.

what happened today doesn't
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I will give you that they could have waited out a day or so but since he had no hostages you could make an argument either way.

The best way to get him out was to smoke him out and is a common practice in standoff situations.

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9397996)

I give a shit.

We don't know what was going on at that point. He could have been trying to surrender, likely not, but burning the house down doesn't seem like something that is protocol
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Please show me where it says in the San Bernardino County Sheriff's policy does it say you cannot burn down a house? I'd bet you it doesn't.

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9397996)

I agree the fire is unheard of. But trying to surrender? The guy was killing cops at any given opportunity. And yes, I know the ****ing department is corrupt and several of their officers are corrupt and bad apples.

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9398008)

police scanner just said there were escape routes from the basement

What! Like tunnels? If they mean like a door that opens up to the outside then I would hope the cops having the place surrounded would still cover that. This is just surreal.

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9397972)

And yet you can't connect the dots between live rounds and a propane tank. Amazing.

Or...you can't. Mythbusters proved that bullets don't cause explosions/fires.

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Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 9398013)

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

LMAO

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Originally Posted by mlyonsd (Post 9398006)

If he's taken into custody and then dies I'd be questioning it myself.

In this scenario I think he got what he wanted.

I can see that he possibly wanted them to kill him.

Out just doesn't seem right that they burnt the house, while not knowing for sure if anyone else was there.

Look at what has happened in this case. Everything.

The blue truck, the black truck. The women getting shot.

Now today.

No sense
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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9398008)

police scanner just said there were escape routes from the basement

Wow.

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 9397977)

But who really gives a shit? If they went in and shot him to pieces, or set the house on fire to kill him, what's the difference other than setting the fire requires much less risk of losing more officers, considering this guy had proven he will shoot and kill any officer he can.

Yep this is 100% correct.

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 9398015)

Setting a house on fire is standard practice?
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I'm trying to find out more

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Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 9397990)

The fire may have been accidental. We only have conspiracy theories about it at this point.

Transcript from the police burning the place down

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"Make a big portal..."
3min later
"Guys can you pull that door out, we think they may be something underneath it.... go ahead and turn it and pull it out"
"See camouflage underneath that door?"
"No only some garbage bags... I see some blood splatter in the far corner"
"What corner?"
"Right across from the 1-4 corner"
"I think you're meaning the 1-2"
"Alright Steve* we're going to go ahead with our plan with the burner-"
"Copy"
"-the one we talked about"
4:16
Control, BURNERS DEPLOYED AND WE HAVE A FIRE
Copy, burners deployed and we have a fire
Guys be ready on the #4 side, we have fire on the front he might come out the back
One side fully engulfed, fire on the (port?, porch?)
...we're down here on... road... bring an engine down here
(14?) fires are out
ONE SHOT FIRED FROM INSIDE THE RESIDENCE
Roll in in stage
61 lincoln, to all units. all perimeter units. stand by
1-2 corner fully engulfed
we have ammo exploding inside
Control... status check
I'm over on the 4 side
we have fire back there yet?
....Fully engulfed
copy, number 2 and 4, fully engulfed

I'd wait and see on that one... someone might just be calling and trying to troll the police department.