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KChiefer 02-12-2013 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9397809)
I would have killed that ****er too.


And then planned to spend my life in jail
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But but but that guy had a right to a trial.

lcarus 02-12-2013 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9397797)
Lol. This is America, innocent until proven guilty. Right to a fair trial.


That didn't happen in this instance
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Are you kinda sorta forgetting he shot 2 cops during this cabin standoff?

Brock 02-12-2013 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9397810)
Aside from the whole legal system thing, which is an important argument... I think you have to backtrack ever farther. As far as I can tell, they all act like they haven't even contacted him. So while it's 99% likely it's him, they didn't confirm that, or if he had hostages.

While you'd like to assume the best here, given how trigger happy everyone has been in the last week you have to ask those questions.

Yup. It's amazing the amount of slack these cops are being given in the face of absolute incompetence over the last week.

Sorter 02-12-2013 07:36 PM

http://audio4.radioreference.com/71138770.mp3

I heard something about "departed" ...

HoneyBadger 02-12-2013 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ghak99 (Post 9397808)
I'm not cool with them burning it down either, assuming they lit it.

It was well stated in an above post but, It's pretty third worldish chicken shit tactics if you ask me. This isn't Mexico.

It's pretty smart. Ended this shit as fast as possible.

SAUTO 02-12-2013 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 9397805)
When he puts his ****ing gun down he can argue his innocence.

after what the lapd has done in the past week how could he put the guns down even if he wanted to?

They shot up two Asian ladies.

Something is wrong here
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unlurking 02-12-2013 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefer (Post 9397812)
But but but that guy had a right to a trial.

Only if they're not HIS kids.

NJChiefsFan 02-12-2013 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by HoneyBadger (Post 9397790)
And this is not how people are supposed to live. Who gives a shit how this guy goes out, as long as he is dead.

Because the argument isn't even about this guy. It's about a massive principle that our society is built on. There are situations where innocent people are assumed to be guilty. Doing something that implies guilt like running doesn't always mean the person committed the crime.

Don't get me wrong I am not saying this guy is innocent. But it's not about him. It's about doing the legal thing 100% of the time so it never costs somebody who is innocent. The justice system is there so decisions are made without emotion or prejudice people. You are saying it's cool that people both prejudice and emotional make a decision on how this guy should go out.

If someone else gets hurt due to this it's horrible and I will be very upset to hear it. But there are things that need defending no matter what, and right by trial is one of them. By risking their lives, the police are essentially fighting for that right. This isn't about this guy, its about our way as a justice system. No matter what the circumstances that shouldn't change.

tk13 02-12-2013 07:37 PM

AP is reporting that no one ever tried to emerge from the cabin.

HoneyBadger 02-12-2013 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 9397815)
Yup. It's amazing the amount of slack these cops are being given in the face of absolute incompetence over the last week.

Some people are shitty at their job, I'm sure you know (if you work). But I think overall the police are trying to do the right thing in most cases.

SAUTO 02-12-2013 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 9397813)
Are you kinda sorta forgetting he shot 2 cops during this cabin standoff?

**** no I'm not.


At you forgetting the cops shot up a, couple of innocent Asian ladies delivering newspapers while trying to kill this guy?
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unlurking 02-12-2013 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 9397815)
Yup. It's amazing the amount of slack these cops are being given in the face of absolute incompetence over the last week.

Every officer involved with those shootings should be fired and never allowed to work LE again. But sooner or later the criminal has to take some responsibility here.

KChiefer 02-12-2013 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ghak99 (Post 9397808)
I'm not cool with them burning it down either, assuming they lit it.

It was well stated in an above post but, It's pretty third worldish chicken shit tactics if you ask me. This isn't Mexico.

You know how they got John Wilkes Booth?

pr_capone 02-12-2013 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefer (Post 9397812)
But but but that guy had a right to a trial.

What he would do as an individual... and what is good and right in the eyes of the law are two very different things. saying that I recognize the law doesn't preclude me from deciding to break it.

SAUTO 02-12-2013 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefer (Post 9397812)
But but but that guy had a right to a trial.

True. Emotion takes over at that point. But I'M NOT A SWORN OFFICER OF THE LAW. You know someone we count on to be better than us. Someone we count on to uphold our justice system
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