Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 14072455)

if the Chiefs release Dee Ford, he will sign a contract that in all likelihood nets a 3rd round comp pick.

If they tag and trade him, the best they are getting is a second rounder. That's your window - bottom of the third to top of the second. Personally, I can't see a team giving up a high second round pick for a player who is going to cost a hell of a lot more than a rookie would at the same position. If I'm a GM, I am going to keep my second and try to find that same player at age 21 on a cheap contract.

Our best bet is tagging/trading Ford and landing a high third rounder instead of a comp pick, which comes at the end of the round. Maybe someone gets desperate and gives up a second, but with the young pass rushers on the market this year, I don't see why.

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 14072455)

if the Chiefs release Dee Ford, he will sign a contract that in all likelihood nets a 3rd round comp pick.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14072490)

You know if this team were to franchise Ford...that is a shit ton of money tied up in 3 defensive players that frankly aren't all that productive.

We'd have a really highly paid defense that sucks balls...**** we already have that it'd just be even more well paid.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14072604)

Because based on all reports, all of those young pass rushers aren’t going anywhere. That’s why.

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14072682)

It's conceivable that he would be the 1st or 2nd highest rated pass rusher available.

It's conceivable that someone that sees him as a missing piece might in fact cough up a #1 for him. I think a #2 is more likely, but it's possible.

Originally Posted by ChiefoftheKeyboard (Post 14072684)

Also, it’s pretty realistic to think Dorsey drafted TK thinking Sutton would be gone Sooners they’d transition to a 4-3. Then they fired Dorsey and likely decided they didn’t want to switch gm’s, OC’s, DC’s and QBs all in one season. So instead they suffered another yr of Sutton while TKas inactive and Reid was coaching up beienemy and mahomes. Pretty sure TK was asked to lose weight to play OLB. For all we know he’s been putting weight back on to be another interior pass rusher where he’d fit, or play DE where he is still a better fit than OLB.

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14072658)

It's almost like the idea here is to have a more productive defense..........

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14072694)

I think he'll be one of the interesting things to watch this offseason. in all reality, the time spent training as OLB shouldn't hurt him unless he's dropped too much weight. He should be nimbler. And there's still been pass rush work. But I'd like to see him DE. Physically, he's a freak.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14072699)

I don't know if you can be productive if you have a bunch of highly paid 1 trick pony defenders.

If this team has big contracts on Houston, Berry, Jones, Ford and Hitchens..I want someone to tell me how the defense will ever be good.

That's a whole let of age, injury, 1 trick ponies and in general a sure fire way to have a defense that isn't good.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14072699)

I don't know if you can be productive if you have a bunch of highly paid 1 trick pony defenders.

If this team has big contracts on Houston, Berry, Jones, Ford and Hitchens..I want someone to tell me how the defense will ever be good.

That's a whole let of age, injury, 1 trick ponies and in general a sure fire way to have a defense that isn't good.