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RealSNR 03-10-2017 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by oldman (Post 12778029)
I think it's much more likely that Peterman or Davis is on Dorsey's radar. Roll with Smith as #1, Bray as #2 and the rookie at #3. Bray and the heir apparent can fight it out for the #1 next year and draft another QB. That is unless Kizer just happens to fall to 27 and then all bets are off.
If Smith goes down this year and Bray and/or the rookie stink, just think how much higher we'll be in the 2018 draft. I'm a glass 1/2 full kind of guy.


I'd rather have Aaron Murray than any of the shit ass pet ****er late rounders this year.

That's what I didn't get. We drafted Murray and Hogan then said, "Not even gonna try developing them." Yet we'll take a jackass with zero potential to be good in Peterman?

RunKC 03-10-2017 02:36 PM

Watson/Mahommes-rd 1
Dobbs/Peterman-later options

I like Kaaya but I think Andy wants a mobile QB

FloridaMan88 03-10-2017 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12778147)
Watson/Mahommes-rd 1
Dobbs/Peterman-later options

I like Kaaya but I think Andy wants a mobile QB

Brad Kaaya is a trainwreck unless he has 100% perfect conditions (great protection, WR's running perfect routes, etc).

He showed zero ability to overcome the slightest hint of in-game adversity in college.

kepp 03-10-2017 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by arrwheader (Post 12777775)
I guess I am just saying that it makes sense from a future standpoint. AS has got two years left contract wise. Trade up and draft a guy now to sit for a year just makes sense with the current roster. The positions you listed are needs but maybe they can fill them in later rounds or FA. Keep the window open and still be competitive after AS is gone. This team is pretty young. We got some aging stars but i think our "window" will be around for some time.

Oh I'm with you...I'd love for it to happen. I probably just jaded.

-King- 03-10-2017 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 12777908)
Shit I'd trade the entire Chiefs team and ALL my draft picks for 5 years to get a 22 year old Tom Brady. Who wouldn't? Just using free agency and off the street FA you'd still win 5-6 SB's.

Yeah... Thats just dumb.
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-King- 03-10-2017 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by rico (Post 12777863)
Yet another reason to hate Matt Cassel. He has put many of us in a state where we are willing to settle for a guy like Alex Smith. Blech.

How have we settled and what was your alternative in 2013?
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RealSNR 03-10-2017 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12778258)
How have we settled and what was your alternative in 2013?
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Carson Palmer + draft a guy. I wanted Geno, but if they ****ing TRIED, I would have been more than patient.

If that plan blew up, try again in a different year.

The problem with Chiefs fans is that whenever a QB crisis occurs when they can absolutely no longer roll with the current veteran because he's washed up/suck too much, they act like they have to solve the problem NOW. INSTANTLY.

They don't think about QB development as a multi-year process. It's like Carl stepped down from GMing, but instead went into the business of mind control lasers, and he's got everybody thinking his way is the best.

Thus, you get all the, "Gee, I'd love to draft a QB, but there's no Andrew Luck available at 27th overall! Next year is a better class, maybe we'll get one then!" And it's also how you get, "I don't like what Alex Smith is doing, but what should the Chiefs have done, exactly?"

Uhh... how about plan ahead? But since they didn't do that, they should just be ****ing patient.

Nickhead 03-10-2017 04:12 PM

hence why i think the chiefs will draft, if given the chance, a qb this year rather than next year in the first or second. not that they wont draft one again next year, just not as high up. again, im not privy to college games, so i don't know what is the best option realistically. just going off the fact alex will be the starter next year and possibly 18. the problem you run into is he incrementally gets better and they extend alex before 18 is up. :D

New World Order 03-10-2017 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12778258)
How have we settled and what was your alternative in 2013?
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Someone like Matt Hasselbeck then move on to someone like Derek Carr after a couple of years.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-10-2017 05:00 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ball velocity numbers (MPH) from the Combine:<br><br>60 - Mahomes<br>59 - Webb<br>56 - Kizer<br>55 - Trubisky, Evans<br>53 - Peterman, Kaaya<br>49 - Watson</p>&mdash; Dane Brugler (@dpbrugler) <a href="https://twitter.com/dpbrugler/status/840334987958329346">March 10, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That 60 MPH is impressive for Mahomes. 49 MPH on the other hand for Watson, not good.

Tribal Warfare 03-10-2017 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12778380)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ball velocity numbers (MPH) from the Combine:<br><br>60 - Mahomes<br>59 - Webb<br>56 - Kizer<br>55 - Trubisky, Evans<br>53 - Peterman, Kaaya<br>49 - Watson</p>&mdash; Dane Brugler (@dpbrugler) <a href="https://twitter.com/dpbrugler/status/840334987958329346">March 10, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That 60 MPH is impressive for Mahomes. 49 MPH on the other hand for Watson, not good.

That's a harder ball than Bray's 59MPH

CrossCheck 03-10-2017 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12778380)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ball velocity numbers (MPH) from the Combine:<br><br>60 - Mahomes<br>59 - Webb<br>56 - Kizer<br>55 - Trubisky, Evans<br>53 - Peterman, Kaaya<br>49 - Watson</p>&mdash; Dane Brugler (@dpbrugler) <a href="https://twitter.com/dpbrugler/status/840334987958329346">March 10, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That 60 MPH is impressive for Mahomes. 49 MPH on the other hand for Watson, not good.

Stephen Thomas‏ @15Stephen15 · 16m16 minutes ago




@dpbrugler Since 2008, only guy under 55 with any type of success is Tyrod. (Dak threw 54 but had a bum shoulder)

pugsnotdrugs19 03-10-2017 05:22 PM

That 49 MPH might kill Watson's stock. Seriously. I always thought his deep ball looked like a floater. Similar to Mariota.

Mahomes or bust IMO.

The Franchise 03-10-2017 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12778405)
That 49 MPH might kill Watson's stock. Seriously. I always thought his deep ball looked like a floater. Similar to Mariota.

Mahomes or bust IMO.

I'd still be ok with Kizer as a consolation prize.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-10-2017 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12778406)
I'd still be ok with Kizer as a consolation prize.

I would take one of the other guys, but I wouldn't trade up for anyone but Mahomes at this point.

I'd love to know if Watson was just coasting too much or what, because 49 MPH is awful.


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