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Tombstone RJ 04-22-2018 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 13527027)
Its really close, IMO.

Hunt = Bell
Hill = brown
Watkins = Bryant
Kelce > Jones

:rolleyes:

-King- 04-22-2018 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 13526839)
At the time of his retirement, Favre owned or shared 389 NFL records

He still owns or shares 176 of those

First and only player to win 3 consecutive league MVP awards

Played in two Super Bowls, winning one

First QB to win a playoff game after age 40

His Iron Man streak of consecutive games started by a QB will likely never be broken

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...by_Brett_Favre

You get a lot of records when you play for 80 years.


And in no way shape or form is favre better than Rodgers. Not in any aspect of quarterbacking.
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-King- 04-22-2018 03:36 PM

I predict 4000 yard, 25 TD and 17INT.
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RustShack 04-22-2018 03:38 PM

I can’t believe people think Pat will only throw in the 3,000’s.

Do you have any idea how talented he is? Any idea what weapons he has? Or most of all any idea who our coach is?

Andy is building an Air-Raid offense. We’re in big trouble if you’re only throwing for 3,000 in the air raid.

Chiefaholic 04-22-2018 03:39 PM

I'm going to try to give an honest prediction w/o sounding too homerish. But, Andy loves to put the ball in the air. He knew what the limitations were with Alex, and game planned within his strengths. Mahomes physical abilities, combined with the downfield speed of Hill and Watson will spread out defenses and keep the damn safties out of the box. I'm looking for at least a couple deep passes in every game, Kelce having his best year as a Chief, and the running game having it's best YPC since Charles was in his prime.

As far as Mahomes, he's going to make mistakes as a rookie and have just an average TD to INT ratio as a rookie. I'm going to be pessimistic and guess 3800 yards, 26 TD's, and 20 INT's in his first year as a starter. I hope I'm wrong, but I saw a little of it in the Donkey game where he trusted his arm strength a little too much and put the ball in very tight windows. Hopefully an entire offseason will allow the WR's to get used to the velocity of his pass.

Ming the Merciless 04-22-2018 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 13527200)
I can’t believe people think Pat will only throw in the 3,000’s.

yes because anythign short of 4000 is a failure and theres no way he could throw for less in his rookie season

LOL

good to see ol rusty the homer back at it

by the way how many rookie / red shirt QB's have gone over 4000 ?? just out of curiousity

Easy 6 04-22-2018 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 13527191)
And in no way shape or form is favre better than Rodgers. Not in any aspect of quarterbacking.
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Prove it

Fat Elvis 04-22-2018 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 13527200)
I can’t believe people think Pat will only throw in the 3,000’s.

Do you have any idea how talented he is? Any idea what weapons he has? Or most of all any idea who our coach is?

Andy is building an Air-Raid offense. We’re in big trouble if you’re only throwing for 3,000 in the air raid.

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 13527170)
3200 yards passing

18 TDs
7 INTs

Very 'Alex Smith' like numbers

Woo. Aim high DeBerg. If it is realistic to think that Mahomes will only get 3200 passing yards with that type of TD/INT ratio, then we wasted a draft pick on him, especially when you consider the talent surrounding him.

Jacoby Bissett got similar stats last year with that Colts dumpster fire.....

Those type of stats will have you drafting in the top 10 year after year.

Best22 04-22-2018 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 13527103)
even getting a wildcard spot would be huge for the kid IMO

i believe the raiders are slight favorites to win the divixsion , so winning the division would be awesome although i dont really expect it

if he does crack 4000 and have around 2:1 td to int ratio, i would probably orgasm

even if we go 8-8 and miss the wildcard, and he 'only' throws for 3500 or so, as long as there is clear progress and he stays healthy.... this will literally be the most excited that I have been for chiefs football in 15 years

Chargers are gonna be favored for the division

RustShack 04-22-2018 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 13527209)
yes because anythign short of 4000 is a failure and theres no way he could throw for less in his rookie season

LOL

good to see ol rusty the homer back at it

by the way how many rookie / red shirt QB's have gone over 4000 ?? just out of curiousity

How many 2nd year QB’s have his arm, coach, and supporting cast, and play in such a pass heavy system?

Ming the Merciless 04-22-2018 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 13527238)
Chargers are gonna be favored for the division

looks like youre correct

its pretty close, but the chargers are slight favorites, currently:

http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/futures/

we aren't even currently predicted to do better than the broncos.

we are predicted to be a middle of the pack team....

I mean we did blow up the defense and we really are going to re design the offense around mahomes...so this shouldnt surprise anyone

Ming the Merciless 04-22-2018 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 13527239)
How many 2nd year QB’s have his arm, coach, and supporting cast, and play in such a pass heavy system?

i think cam newton in 2011 broke 4000 yards in his 1st full season...

bledsoe did it...but started like 13 games the year before...so i dunno if this counts really

also dan marino in 1984 (he started 10 games in 83 though....)

im not totally sure but my question is genuine

are there any other QB's who have broken 4000 yards in their 1st full season? Any who have started in only 1 game or less?

pugsnotdrugs19 04-22-2018 04:22 PM

I just laugh at anything that says the Chiefs aren’t favorites, or at least 2nd.

Two time defending champions of the West and in my opinion they have upgraded on both offense and defense (after the draft for sure) as an overall team. The Andy Reid factor alone should give them the benefit of the doubt with oddsmakers.

It’s whatever though, guess they need to prove it regardless.

Ming the Merciless 04-22-2018 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13527246)
I just laugh at anything that says the Chiefs aren’t favorites, or at least 2nd.

yep. we are last currently, by a narrow margin but according to vegas odds even the broncos are favored to win the AFC more than us..

and yes..

I agree we have to prove it. We blew the team up pretty well....so I mean....I'm not completely surprised but then again I am am prepared for some bumps in the road and some growing pains

Best22 04-22-2018 04:32 PM

If there were tough teams in the division then it'd be one thing, but who really believes in the s***** Broncos or Raiders, or even the Chargers who always melt when they have to play the Chiefs?

I trust KC to win the West more than any of those other losers


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