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RealSNR 05-01-2011 04:17 PM

Where's Direckshun? I'm going to go teabag him for calling me an idiot when he sent me a pick reminder.

DeezNutz 05-01-2011 04:21 PM

Have you all tallied the bonus deduction for selecting an undrafted player? Can't win the draft if you're not sitting in the 100% clubhouse, drinking beers with Aviles.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 05-01-2011 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemon_Pie (Post 7395879)
make the mock draft performance based using draft value projection and +/- differential. Bottom 4 are removed for next year along with people who drop out. Top 15 picks will be safer in that they are less likely to pick a Clausen, but also won't benefit from an Alualu. After that it's all pretty even I'd think.

use the +/- for the first 3 or 4 rounds...or maybe even all of them. Then take that number and divide by number of picks and lowest 4 numbers are out. All undrafted players used in mock would result in negative difference between mock pick and last pick + agreed upon number as penalty (just 1 could work)

plus it'd be funny to look back on and see someone booted who actually made good picks

Y'all kicking people out yet?
:evil:

RealSNR 05-01-2011 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7611857)
Have you all tallied the bonus deduction for selecting an undrafted player? Can't win the draft if you're not sitting in the 100% clubhouse, drinking beers with Aviles.

Make the deduction whatever you want. 50 points? Sounds great. I still win the mock. I beat BossChief by over 100.

The drafturbators are no longer controlled by the Four Horsemen. I am the new leader. May Reerun, CoMo, TRR, and Laz quake in terror whenever my name is mentioned. They are powerless, and prolonged exposure to reading my freakishly accurate and awesome draft projections will cause cancerous sores to form on their faces.

Your days of riding the coattails of Mecca, Dane, Hamas, and OTW58 are over, Deez.

You, like your father... are now.... MINE

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RealSNR 05-01-2011 05:03 PM

I will have this entire forum worshipping Terrence Copper within a month.

RealSNR 05-01-2011 05:10 PM

I also plan on re-naming Draft Planet "The Herb Taylor Memorial Forum"

DeezNutz 05-01-2011 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 7611899)
Make the deduction whatever you want.

Cool. 100 points.

I win the mock, as Boss was trying to keep up with me like a flustered Nebraska academic.

BossChief 01-07-2016 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7609991)
I wanted to see how effective my drafting is when stacked up to where the players I took in the mock went in the real draft and I think I did pretty damn good.

I took the # where I took the player and stacked it up against the # the player went at in the real draft to see if the pick was a good value or not.

I totally OWN.

(27) Adrian Clayborn, DE, Iowa (20) ..........+7
(59) Titus Young, WR, Boise State (44)..............+15
(90) Shane Vereen, RB, Cal (56)........................+34
(123) Julius Thomas, TE, Portland State (129)..........-6
(155) Buster Skrine, CB, Chattanooga (137).............+18
(187) Shiloh Keo, SS/PR, Idaho (144).......................+43
(217)Jeremy Kerley, WR/PR, TCU (153)...................+64
(218) Henry Hynoski, FB, Pittsburgh ...only player I took for Atlanta that wasn't drafted. ..........................................that equates to a -3

Thats an overall +172.....every pick was a great value and the only undrafted player was a late 7th rounder!

OWNAGE!

Now for the Browns...

(6) Julio Jones, WR, Alabama (6)...................nailed it
(37) Christian Ballard, DL, Iowa (106)................-69
(68) Sione Fua, DT, Stanford (97).......................-29
(101) Derrick Locke, RB, Kentucky ...not drafted......ouch... -120
(133) Nathan Enderle, QB, Idaho (160)......................-27
(163) Jalil Brown, CB, Colorado (118)......................+45
(165) Roy Helu, RB, Nebraska (105)......................+60

That Locke pick really hurt (****ed up part is that was the pick I let my buddy make for me because he is a Brown fan)

The overall score for my Browns draft is a -140

Combined score of two teams is +32

I made 15 picks and 13 of them were drafted...that's gotta be the top dog.

87% rate of drafted players

Another fun year.

Thanks again for letting me participate!

How do your drafts grade out?

1) remember, we didnt have as many picks as the real draft due to no comp picks
2) if you picked a player that went undrafted, you get dinged for each slot missed by and the total picks in the mock was 221.


Did I win?

Pretty good haul of talent for both teams, right there.

The Franchise 01-07-2016 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7512804)
That concludes the 2011 Bucs draft.

1st - Justin Houston, DE, Georgia
2nd - Ras-I Dowling, CB, Virginia
3rd - DeMarcus Love, G, Arkansas
4th - Colin McCarthy, LB, Miami
5th - Jacquizz Rodgers, RB, Oregon State
6th - Derek Hall, OT, Stanford
7th - Owen Marecic, FB/ILB, Stanford

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7506420)
Damn.....I forgot I don't have a 7th round pick for the Panthers. So it looks like I'm done.

The Carolina Panthers 2011 NFL Draft.

1st - A.J. Green, WR, Georgia
3rd - Danny Watkins, G, Baylor
4th - Jurrell Casey, DT, USC
5th - Ian Williams, DT, Notre Dame
6th - Rob Housler, TE, Florida Atlantic

Bam. Although I passed on Cam for Green.

Rain Man 11-28-2017 11:56 PM

Okay, just for fun I went through and determined who was the master of the draft.

I did it as follows:

1. I calculated the number of draft points available, and what percentage of those points each team had.

2. I calculated the number of years as a starter each teams' draft produced, and the percentage of those years compared to all years in the draft class.

3. I calculated the number of pro bowls each team's draft produced, and the percentage of those pro bowls compared to all pro bowls produced by the draft class. (I then divided this number by 2 to normalize it a bit compared to the indices.)

4. I calculated the total Career AV each team's draft produced (per pro football reference), and the percentage of those AV points compared to all AV points produced the draft class.

5. I then produced an index that divides the bottom three percentages by the top one. This means that you were a winner if you produce larger portions of Career AV, pro bowls, and starting years than your portion of the available draft points.

It's not a perfect indicator for a variety of reasons, but it gives us a measure. Specifically, I think it's a bit biased against teams that had high first-round picks, because I think those are overvalued in the draft points chart. Also, it doesn't consider positional value, so a team that drafts a solid right tackle gets equal credit compared to a guy who drafts a solid quarterback. You can decide on your own if you'd rank teams differently.

Without further ado, here are the rankings from top drafting team to bottom drafting team.

Code:

                %DP    %YrsSt  %PBs        %AV        Index  Rank
PACKERS Total        1.78%        6.22%        10.00%        5.30%        3.096        1
RAVENS Total        2.04%        3.11%        7.14%        4.76%        1.867        2
FALCONS Total        2.03%        4.15%        2.86%        3.98%        1.572        3
JAGUARS Total        2.93%        4.66%        8.57%        4.72%        1.557        4
LIONS Total        3.20%        5.44%        7.14%        5.40%        1.500        5
DOLPHINS Total        2.26%        3.37%        5.71%        3.76%        1.472        6
RAIDERS Total        1.22%        1.81%        0.00%        2.63%        1.219        7
CHARGERS Total        3.19%        4.92%        2.86%        3.73%        1.052        8
BEARS Total        1.88%        2.85%        0.00%        2.86%        1.011        9
49ERS Total        3.97%        5.44%        2.86%        5.04%        1.001        10
BUCCANEERS        2.52%        1.55%        5.71%        2.57%        0.922        11
CHIEFS Total        2.40%        3.11%        0.00%        3.37%        0.902        12
PANTHERS Total        5.68%        4.92%        11.43%        4.34%        0.879        13
CARDINALS Total        4.35%        3.63%        7.14%        4.24%        0.876        14
REDSKINS Total        3.11%        3.37%        2.86%        3.18%        0.854        15
PATRIOTS Total        4.84%        4.92%        2.86%        4.95%        0.778        16
TITANS Total        3.73%        2.59%        4.29%        3.89%        0.770        17
BENGALS Total        4.60%        2.59%        8.57%        3.37%        0.743        18
COWBOYS Total        3.71%        4.15%        0.00%        3.34%        0.673        19
SAINTS Total        2.42%        2.07%        1.43%        1.93%        0.651        20
Vikings Total        3.06%        3.63%        0.00%        2.35%        0.650        21
BROWNS Total        4.21%        1.81%        5.71%        2.96%        0.603        22
STEELERS Total        1.79%        1.81%        0.00%        1.35%        0.588        23
BILLS Total        5.35%        4.40%        1.43%        4.02%        0.569        24
COLTS Total        2.34%        2.07%        0.00%        1.57%        0.520        25
TEXANS Total        3.48%        2.85%        0.00%        2.35%        0.497        26
RAMS Total        3.08%        2.59%        0.00%        1.83%        0.479        27
GIANTS Total        2.50%        1.55%        0.00%        1.67%        0.429        28
EAGLES Total        2.50%        1.30%        0.00%        1.70%        0.400        29
BRONCOS Total        6.35%        3.11%        1.43%        1.70%        0.290        30
SEAHAWKS Total        2.07%        0.00%        0.00%        0.84%        0.135        31
JETS Total        1.40%        0.00%        0.00%        0.29%        0.069        32

Based on this information, the masters of the 2011 draft were:

#1 Packers (SNR)

The Packers held 1.78% of draft points, but produced 10% of pro bowl appearances, 6 percent of starting years, and 5 percent of career AV. Here's their draft.

1 32. PACKERS*(SNR)*Mike Pouncey, OG/OC, Florida
2 32.*PACKERS*(SNR)*DeMarco Murray, RB, Oklahoma
3 32. PACKERS*(SNR)*Chimdi Chekwa, CB, Ohio State
4 32. PACKERS*(SNR)*James Brewer, OT, Indiana
5 32. PACKERS*(SNR)*Chris Conte, FS, California
6 32. PACKERS*(SNR)*Tyrod Taylor, QB, Virginia Tech
7 1. PACKERS*(SNR)*Terrell McClain, DT/DE, South Florida
7 29. PACKERS*(SNR)*Ryan Whalen, WR, Stanford

Pouncey and Murray have each made three pro bowls, while Tyrod has made one. He got contributors Chris Conte and Terrell McClain as well.

#2 - Ravens (Direckshun)

The Ravens held 2.04% of draft points, but produced 7% of pro bowl appearances, 3 percent of starting years, and 5 percent of career AV. Here's their draft.

1 26. RAVENS*(Direckshun)*JJ Watt, DE, Wisconsin
2 26.*RAVENS*(Direckshun)*Joseph Barksdale, OT, LSU
3 26. RAVENS*(Direckshun)*Niles Paul, WR, Nebraska*
4 26. RAVENS*(Direckshun)*Shareece Wright, CB, USC
5 13. REDSKINS*(Marco Polo)*Greg McElroy, QB, Alabama
5 24. REDSKINS*(Marco Polo)*Jah Reid, OT, Central Florida
6 12. REDSKINS*(Marco Polo)*Anthony Gray, NT, Southern Miss
6 26. RAVENS*(Direckshun)*Dwayne Harris, WR, East Carolina
7 19. RAVENS*(Direckshun)*Kevin Rutland, CB, Missouri
7 24. RAVENS*(Direckshun)*John Bender, G, Nevada

Okay, the Ravens' value pretty much came from stealing JJ Watt near the end of the first round. But Dwayne Harris has a pro bowl appearance, and Joe Barksdale logged a few years as a starter. But realistically, this draft was a winner because of the late first rounder.

#3 - Falcons (BossChief)

The Falcons held 2.03% of draft points, but produced 3% of pro bowl appearances, 4 percent of starting years, and 4 percent of career AV. Here's their draft.

1 27. FALCONS*(BossChief)*Adrian Clayborn, DE, Iowa
2 27.*FALCONS*(BossChief)*Titus Young, WR, Boise State
3 27. FALCONS*(BossChief)*Shane Vereen, RB, Cal
4 27. FALCONS*(BossChief)*Julius Thomas, TE, Portland State
5 27. FALCONS*(BossChief)*Buster Skrine, CB, Chattanooga
6 27. FALCONS*(BossChief)*Shiloh Keo, SS/PR, Idaho*
7 25. FALCONS*(BossChief )*Jeremy Kerley, WR/PR, TCU*
7 26. FALCONS*(BossChief)*Henry Hynoski, FB, Pittsburgh

This is a different model of winning. Thomas is the only pro bowler, but everyone else has contributed to their teams, and he got some late-round gems in Skrine and Kerley.

Rain Man 11-29-2017 12:34 AM

Here's the full list of draftees along with their draft points expended, years as starters, pro bowl appearances, and career AV. Sorry about the messy formatting.

Spoiler!

RealSNR 11-29-2017 06:28 PM

That Packers draft is probably my finest work I've ever done at the CP Mock. I've had other decent drafts, but it will be hard for me to top that 2011 year.

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