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i guess it IS possible to be a player with a useless true fan brain....
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basically, you're the model for a true fan pussy...and you're not even a chiefs fan which is more pathetic by a factor of a 1000 |
As this whole draft process goes on I think Star Lotulelei will probably establish himself as the best prospect in the draft. And I won't minimize the impact he'd have as a 3-4 DE that can actually get at the passer. He would make things so much easier for Hali/Houston which in turn makes things so much easier for the secondary.
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All told, I think he can develop into a player like Haloti Ngata. |
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THat's EXACTLY how people described Tyson Jackson coming into the pros. I don't want players who "need to work on" the thing that we need them to do. Star will be no more effective than Glenn Dorsey on this defensive line. **** him. |
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Mr. Lotulelei will be playing in Jacksonville next year. So might as well remove him from the poll.
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Bullet to the brain. |
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Are you surprised he didn't get it? |
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@TheJeffReport convince me that the Chiefs not drafting a QB number one overall is the smart thing to do #TwitterTuesday The inconvenient truth is that the Chiefs stunk one year too late. The NFL personnel community is unanimous that there is no sure franchise quarterback in this draft, and drafting a guy first overall won’t change that. I’ve been pretty consistent on this: the Chiefs NEED to upgrade at quarterback during the offseason, but I don’t care how they do it. If they decide their own needs plus a particular quarterback’s ability is worth the first pick, then cool. But if they decide they can get a worthy quarterback later in the draft, or through a trade, then they should do that. But taking a guy first overall won’t make him Andrew Luck or Peyton Manning or even Eli Manning. It might just mean they spent the highest NFL pick in franchise history on a guy they could’ve had in the second round. ------------------------- I'm sorry but I'm not just reading this shit from "National Guys" or whatnot. At this point, there is no consensus. |
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Says the guy that knows ****ing **** about football. |
SAM MELLINGER YOU HAVE ALWAYS BEEN STUPID BEFORE WE FIX YOUR BRAIN, MAN
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Being the best player in a draft doesn't necessarily equal success. I'm not stating that Smith won't have success, but this Do or Die mentality is quite frankly, ****ing stupid. If the Chiefs select Smith, great! If they pass on him, great! Andy Reid is in a better position than anyone on Chiefsplanet (and just maybe, Planet Earth) to determine the best QB for the Kansas City Chiefs. I'm not singling YOU out but this ****ing bullshit about him being a better prospect than Manning, Rivers, Rothlisberger, etc. and so on is not only a bunch of ****ing fan bullshit, it's a ****ing TURNOFF. How many thousands of posts do we need to read about ****ing "Geno" before the Combines and draft? It's really become sickening. |
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Aaron Curry is the greatest linebacker ever and he can be taught to rush the passer! LMAO |
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it's pathetic that a Chiefs fan would even type it |
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Cam Newton had WAAAY more problems than Geno Smith coming out of college. Sam Bradford was (and still is) a broke dick who comes from a shitty QB school. Matt Stafford had the knock of being too reckless and throwing too many picks. He apparently still has that problem. #1 overall doesn't mean you're a flawless prospect. It means you're the player that can most change a team's fortunes. And that's Geno. Mellinger is a reerun if he doesn't think Geno is on the scale or better than the #1 overall guys I mentioned above. |
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But just the other day, earlier in this thread, I mentioned that many people feel like Smith is a 2nd round talent in any other draft, and was met with "Those are internet idiots" or "Yeah, but NOW, it's different". Anyway, I thought it was somewhat pertinent to the discussion to post Smellinger's viewpoint. Not an indictment. |
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I WANT the Chiefs to draft a QB in the first round and I WANT him to succeed. But I'm not going to concede that Reid is a failure, an idiot, afraid, etc. if that doesn't happen. And the only reason I've even linked these stories is because there is some doubt as to whether the Chiefs WILL take a QB in the first round. ****, I pushed for Ryan. I pushed hard for Sanchez. I wasn't here last year but I would have given up every pick in 2012 for RGIII. I am in no way, shape or form against taking a QB at 1.1. None, zip, zero. But, the perception is that no QB is WORTH taking at 1.1. Personally, I find this to be very, very interesting. |
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At least I don't think he would be. I mean... Tannehill and Weeden over Geno? Please. That's far-fetched. Statements like "Geno is a 2nd round talent in any other year" are just hater bullshit. It's a stretch to say that just as much as it's a stretch to say he's flawless. |
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I mean, come on. Really? |
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Interesting, because the word on the street is that none of these QB's are truly "First round talent". Interesting, that "No QB is worth 1.1", etc. The Chiefs can take whomever they wish at 1.1, so I don't think they're pushing this propaganda. So it'll be interesting to see how this shakes out. |
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I don't give a shit what the NFL Network thinks because their job is to be "right". Mayock was Aaron Curry's biggest fan and he was "right" but Curry sucked ass. I told everyone that would listen that he would suck but after he was chosen, it was irrelevant. As I've said all along, the Combines will give all NFL fans a better idea of where players will be drafted. Smith will participate in all of the drills, so the picture should be much clearer after they're complete. |
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People have been mocking Geno in the top 10 for months and the number of people doing it is now rising. |
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There are 250 "Mock Drafts" on the internet done by guys that can barely brush their ****ing teeth. Are you stating that these ****ing morons scout players in person 365 days a year? That they have access to their families? They have access to their psych tests? IQ? Football IQ? It's ****ing bullshit. Actually, it's just ****ing fun, yet a money-maker for anyone who starts a website. Why give those ****ing morons any accreditation for their 500 changes at the top each season? |
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FYI one of the idiots on the internet, Shawn Zobel, is parroting the "no QB is worth 1.1" bullshit. But he's right, I guess? |
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A talking head doesn't equal informed NFL decision maker. |
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He's one of the 100 most essential people to follow on twitter. I'm sure Shawn Zobel knows more, though. |
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Also, WHY should ANY team consciously and deliberately avoid making comparisons to the previous draft? |
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Who is Zobel? LMAO Yeah, he's right up there with the Onion. :facepalm: |
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Congrats on sharing his opinion. |
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I don't share ANYONE'S opinion, you ****ing gutter rat. The point is that not everyone believes that Smith is the consensus number one choice, nor is he worthy of that in any other year. You ****ing dickless scumbag. |
Daniel Jeremiah is a moron, but Geno Smith is worth the #1 pick.
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It's their pick to use. Mel's big board can go **** itself. |
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You don't seem to care about that, though. |
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You know why? Because I've learned over the years that no matter what you think or Mecca believes or Hamas or myself, NONE of us have control over their pick. And personally, I'm OVER harassing and attempting to humiliate others with a different opinion, especially PRE-DRAFT. Now, if you or anyone else wants to voice their opinion POST-DRAFT, I get it. But for ****'s Sake, we're 10 weeks away and the Combine doesn't begin for another 10+ days. So all this huffing and puffing about guys that haven't done ****ing DICK is annoying. |
Players who are a year off the board have exactly WHAT bearing on April 2013?
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Ive hated this wretched thread since its inception, and today's postings have done exactly jack AND shit in changing my opinion.
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It's an unprecedented opportunity to do what this franchise has NEEDED TO DO FOR THIRTY YEARS. You picked the wrong time to suddenly be all "rational". |
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The big problem here is that everyone is measuring this class against last year. There are only a handful of QBs in the last 10 or 12 years that I like better than Geno as prospects. And because of durability concerns, and because I do believe that Geno is more polished passer at this stage, I do like Geno better than RGIII. That said, Geno would have been the 3rd QB off the board last year. If he would have been taken 8th last year, then heis absolutely worth #1 this year. |
Exactly. He's certainly a better prospect than Tannehil, Locker, Gabbert, and others taken early in drafts.
How the hell does that make him a 2nd every other year? I don't get it. The "no Luck" hyperbole is an absolute ****ing joke. Seriously, NONE of the other guys taken were "Luck". Flacco wasn't Luck. Ryan wasn't Luck. Dalton wasn't Luck...and on and on and on. |
How many QB prospects since 2000 actually WERE better than Geno, outside of Luck?
Let's throw in RG3 and Stafford. Geno is a better prospect than Matt Ryan. He's a better prospect than Mark Sanchez. He's a better prospect than Sam Bradford. Upon further examination, the idea that Geno is better prospect than any other QB this century not named Luck isn't all that far-fetched. |
Not many had the accuracy, deep ball, work ethic AND experience. That's for sure. He passes all the criteria that successful QB's generally had.
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One year of starting experience in college. Gimmick playbook. Awkward delivery, only adequate accuracy These so-called draft experts from ESPN are acting like Cam was this QB that all teams should want to draft at #1 overall if they had the opportunity, but it wasn't like that at all. The Panthers were doing what a lot of teams said they shouldn't by picking Cam. Thankfully, the Panthers took him anyway, and appear to have been right. The Chiefs owe a lot to the Panthers and Redskins for making bold moves and being right when it comes to the draft's top QBs. And the ESPN tards have the nerve to say GENO SMITH isn't worth the #1? No, not even that. He's not worth a FIRST ROUND PICK. That is the kind of logic that drives me ****ing batty, and a reason why I get so heated up when I see it in mock drafts. I don't care if it's some douchebag with a blog in his mom's basement. It's flat-out ****ing wrong, and it needs to stop. |
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It's not hard to separate Geno from guys like Sanchez. It gets muddled when you bring guys like Matt Ryan and Jay Cutler into it. Maybe if he had played in a pro-style, under-center offense his whole college career you could elevate him. But he didn't, so...you know. |
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Geno is a FAR superior prospect to Ryan. Whether or not he becomes a better NFL QB remains to be seen but he better be because Ryan is completely MEH. And I'm not talking about Jay Cutler. He's a loser. |
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If Geno is as good as Matt Ryan I will be his biggest fan, because I love Matt Ryan. But at this point you really can't say for sure that Geno can make the transition to playing under center full time. There are lots of similar prospects who couldn't do it. I place Geno between Blaine Gabbert and Matt Ryan as a prospect. That's all I'm willing to do. That's more than enough for him to go #1 this year, so who cares? |
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He's significantly better as a prospect than Gabbert, and it's not close.
But when you enter the Matt Ryan territory there's too much gray area to say beyond a shadow of a doubt he's better. IMO, if you do that you're entering the homer territory Dane is harping on about. |
Matt Ryan and Geno Smith are entirely different QBs with different backgrounds and different strengths.
Matt Ryan had all the squeaky clean white boy QB shit going for him that draft guys love. He just threw a ton of picks in college. A LOT. Geno Smith had 6 INTs the whole year and like what, only two fumbles? Three? In terms of a guy with the arm who can also take care of the ball, Geno Smith is a far better prospect coming out of college than Matt Ryan. |
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My feelings on this subject have FAR more to do with how I rate Ryan, NOT how I rate Geno. There's nothing "homer" about it. |
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Like many of us are saying, let the combine unfold before you tear each other up about Geno Smith. |
i believe we know plenty about his head. The man is wicked-gifted and a firece competitor.
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