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ChiefsCountry 02-12-2021 02:38 PM

Brown makes perfect sense for the Jags

staylor26 02-12-2021 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 15547582)
Brown makes perfect sense for the Jags

Yea they can just send them pick #25 and be done with it.

Lawrence and your LT locked in.

DT#58 02-12-2021 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15547569)
Nope.

They need to stay with their board. Picking OL just to pick OL is how you end up with an expensive line that doesn't improve.

Nope?
The primary need on this team is OT.
If theres a first round graded OT at 31 you take him.
And before round 5 you take at least one other Olineman.
How in the world does that not improve the Oline?
To assume you end up with an expensive Oline thats crap is saying the team doesnt know how to draft talent.
Really thats a indictment on Vietch.

htismaqe 02-12-2021 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DT#58 (Post 15547800)
Nope?
The primary need on this team is OT.
If theres a first round graded OT at 31 you take him.
And before round 5 you take at least one other Olineman.
How in the world does that not improve the Oline?
To assume you end up with an expensive Oline thats crap is saying the team doesnt know how to draft talent.
Really thats a indictment on Vietch.

You NEVER go into the draft saying that at least 2 of your first 5 picks MUST be a certain position.

That's not how a good team approaches the draft, period.

Now, you've clarified to say that if there's a 1st-round graded OT there at 31 you take him. I agree with that.

I simply do not agree that they MUST do anything in the draft. There's also free agency and before they can do any of it, they have to figure out what the plan is for Fisher.

TEX 02-12-2021 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DT#58 (Post 15547511)
Yes, the top priority absolutely has to be to rebuild the Oline.
When you have a $500 million dollar investment, protecting that investment take precedent over any other areas of need.
The thinking that having an average or below Oline is sufficient because Mahomes can bail the offence out has to stop.
Of the first 5 rounds of the draft, at least 2 of those picks must be Olinemen

I'd use FA as part of the O-Line rebuild. That way you KNOW what you're getting. Use the draft for depth and BAP. Don't be pigeon holed into "having" to take players of need. It's how you get into trouble. Remember Scott Pioli's 1st pick...YIKES!

DT#58 02-12-2021 05:06 PM

Ok saying the Chiefs must take 2 Olinemen in their first 5 picks is maybe simplyfing things.
But the fact is The Oline is the most glaring weakness on this team, and its not even close. Need for an edge rusher, and a #2 WR after that.
Sure there are variables yet to be determined such as the health of both Fisher and Schwartz and free agency.
But protecting your franchise QB with a top Oline, especially a left OT is paramount.
Thats the attitude Vietch and Reid must have in the draft.

TEX 02-12-2021 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DT#58 (Post 15547923)
Ok saying the Chiefs must take 2 Olinemen in their first 5 picks is maybe simplyfing things.
But the fact is The Oline is the most glaring weakness on this team, and its not even close. Need for an edge rusher, and a #2 WR after that.
Sure there are variables yet to be determined such as the health of both Fisher and Schwartz and free agency.
But protecting your franchise QB with a top Oline, especially a left OT is paramount.
Thats the attitude Vietch and Reid must have in the draft.

I'd be fine IF Veach fixed the OL. In fact, if that's all he did, and it turned out to be a solid fix, I'd be happy. Because it would mean that Mahomes would have protection and he could be Mahomes. Our WR's would have more time to get open while Mahomes was being Mahomes. Our run game would be better (providing Reid committed to effectively run), while Mahomes was being Mahomes. It all points to if Mahomes is protected, he CAN make up fo deficiencies in other places. Even he can't do that with what KC played with in the Super Bowl.

But just imagine if, in addition to building a stellar OL, that Veach did other things too, like get an edge rusher opposite Clark...:)

J Diddy 02-12-2021 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 15547947)
I'd be fine IF Veach fixed the OL. In fact, if that's all he did, and it turned out to be a solid fix, I'd be happy. Because it would mean that Mahomes would have protection and he could be Mahomes. Our WR's would have more time to get open while Mahomes was being Mahomes. Our run game would be better (providing Reid committed to effectively run), while Mahomes was being Mahomes. It all points to if Mahomes is protected, he CAN make up fo deficiencies in other places. Even he can't do that with what KC played with in the Super Bowl.

But just imagine if, in addition to building a stellar OL, that Veach did other things too, like get an edge rusher opposite Clark...:)

It's cute that you think Clark is an edge rusher.

TEX 02-12-2021 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 15547991)
It's cute that you think Clark is an edge rusher.

It's even cuter that you think that you can read. :rolleyes:

staylor26 02-12-2021 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 15547991)
It's cute that you think Clark is an edge rusher.

Umm how the **** is he not an edge rusher?

Wisconsin_Chief 02-12-2021 06:48 PM

It really truly sucks that all of a sudden we need to replace our two Pro Bowl caliber tackles at once. And it’s not like you can just cut them and move on. They’re both sitting on injuries and you possibly have to figure out what the hell to do to work around their salaries.

Such a “because Chiefs” thing to happen.

Sofa King 03-11-2021 09:36 AM

Seems like a good time to bump this.

Baby Lee 03-11-2021 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 15548053)
It really truly sucks that all of a sudden we need to replace our two Pro Bowl caliber tackles at once. And it’s not like you can just cut them and move on. They’re both sitting on injuries and you possibly have to figure out what the hell to do to work around their salaries.

Such a “because Chiefs” thing to happen.

Alternatively, . . . just listen for a minute!!

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/en...20110815230727

Sofa King 03-11-2021 10:01 AM

https://sportsnaut.com/nfl-trade-rumors-updates/

NFL trade rumors: Ravens will only move Orlando Brown for a top-40 pick
Pro Bowl offensive tackle Orlando Brown Jr. requests trade from Baltimore Ravens

The Baltimore Ravens find themselves in a less-than-stellar situation with starting right tackle Orlando Brown Jr. He took over for an injured Ronnie Stanley at left tackle last season and continued to dominate the trenches. Brown has since requested a trade and wants to be a franchise blindside protector.

Whether that means the two-time Pro Bowler will be traded remains to be seen. Reports out of Baltimore are that the Ravens want a top-40 pick in the 2021 NFL Draft. If they don’t get it, John Harbaugh and Co. are willing to let Brown play out the final season of his contract and receive a compensatory pick when Brown leaves for free agency.

Looking at it logically, the New York Jets and Carolina Panthers are two teams picking at the top of Round 2 who would make sense for Brown.

Rain Man 03-11-2021 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 15579406)
https://sportsnaut.com/nfl-trade-rumors-updates/

NFL trade rumors: Ravens will only move Orlando Brown for a top-40 pick
Pro Bowl offensive tackle Orlando Brown Jr. requests trade from Baltimore Ravens

The Baltimore Ravens find themselves in a less-than-stellar situation with starting right tackle Orlando Brown Jr. He took over for an injured Ronnie Stanley at left tackle last season and continued to dominate the trenches. Brown has since requested a trade and wants to be a franchise blindside protector.

Whether that means the two-time Pro Bowler will be traded remains to be seen. Reports out of Baltimore are that the Ravens want a top-40 pick in the 2021 NFL Draft. If they don’t get it, John Harbaugh and Co. are willing to let Brown play out the final season of his contract and receive a compensatory pick when Brown leaves for free agency.

Looking at it logically, the New York Jets and Carolina Panthers are two teams picking at the top of Round 2 who would make sense for Brown.


If the guy can play LT at a high level, that's easily worth a top 40 pick, especially where our pick is. Good LTs are not common.


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