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T-post Tom 01-18-2019 07:09 AM

I bet they're scared to death of Hill going over the top. He is great at getting off the line, but I'd keep him and Kelce in motion as much as possible on pass routes. Pats will be doing everything in their power to jam them on the line and I think the refs will be holding tight to their flags on Sunday.

Hammock Parties 01-18-2019 07:16 AM

It doesn't matter.

Reid solved the riddle of Belichick defenses long ago.

T-post Tom 01-18-2019 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14049472)
It doesn't matter.

Reid solved the riddle of Belichick defenses long ago.

/thread over

ChiefGator 01-18-2019 07:24 AM

If you listen to Belichick's comments before and after our last game, he was terrified of Hill's speed. Gave him lots of respect actually (for grumpy press conference Belichick anyway).

Bob Dole 01-18-2019 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Vegas (Post 14048884)
Possession time is what BB will take away from the offense. Long methodical drives to keep Mahomes and company on the sidelines.

If last week's D shows up, that won't work

Chris Meck 01-18-2019 08:22 AM

"Is there anything you can do to coach up your secondary to handle the speed of Hill?"

BB-"You mean, like, make guys run faster?"

lol

PatriotsGuy 01-18-2019 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14049541)
"Is there anything you can do to coach up your secondary to handle the speed of Hill?"

BB-"You mean, like, make guys run faster?"

lol

Gotta love Bill :D

FringeNC 01-18-2019 08:31 AM

Simms and Lefkoe thought the Pats would try to take away his ability to scramble / roll-out to the right. Not sure exactly the best way you'd do that...

Chris Meck 01-18-2019 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by PatriotsGuy (Post 14049551)
Gotta love Bill :D


dude, I know he's like the evil emperor and all, but his press conferences ****ing crack me up!

I paraphrased that, the wording's not exactly right but that's basically what he said. I literally did a spit take with my coffee.

Fritz88 01-18-2019 08:39 AM

Not worried a bit, looking forward to the SB match.

Chiefs have invested in so many weapons to pay off now. It’s about time.

Sully 01-18-2019 08:56 AM

If I'm the Patriots, I want 2 guys on Kelce, and a bracket on Hill. Make us beat them with anyone else.
They like to put their best CB on the other teams' #2 WR, and bracket the best guy, so I assume that will be the plan.

Screen game will be huge.

B_Ambuehl 01-18-2019 08:58 AM

Belichik will try to take away Mahomes scrambling to his right. Instead of rushing to the QB he'll have the rusher on that side take away the outside scramble. He actually did it in the first game and had some success with it.

They play more straight up man coverage than any team in the NFL. Defensively, he usually places Gilmore on one receiver with no help then Jackson on another receiver with safety help. In the first game he had McCourty on Kelce quite a bit which is a decent matchup for N.E. Anytime Chung was on Kelce he got destroyed. Chung is done. He couldn't even stay with Gates last week. Anyhow, I think their best bet is try to single up Watkins with Gilmore, put Jackson on Hill with safety help to that side, then put McCourty on Kelce. Their problem is they play so much man coverage it's so easy to pre-determine where to go with the ball. And when you have a QB that can move and have an offensive playcaller whose main offseason hobby involves creating new misdirection schemes and plays to destroy man coverage it's not a good schematic matchup for them. The teams that had some success slowing the Chiefs offense down all play cover 3 or are zone blitz heavy (Arizona, Baltimore, Seattle, S.D.). Reid and Mahomes have routinely destroyed man coverage all season.

On the other side of the ball the magic recipe for destroying N.E. is throw for 300 yards and sack Brady 3 times. Any team that has done that has dominated them over the years. The Chiefs inherently have a scheme that causes them problems because they play man and rush the passer. What Vrabel did to them the chiefs are capable of. Get physical at the line of scrimmage and play the underneath crossing stuff tight, play the backs tight, and force the ball down the field to slapdicks like Hogan. The key is don't give them easy PI calls when Brady chunks it up down the field.

The Chiefs have lost every football game in which the opponent had the ball 33 minutes or more. Belichik is known to focus on that so expect it to be a major focus. K.C. must stop the run and put Brady in 3rd and 6+. They're going to try to hold the ball and dink and dunk their way down the field to win TOP.

Marcellus 01-18-2019 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 14049557)
Simms and Lefkoe thought the Pats would try to take away his ability to scramble / roll-out to the right. Not sure exactly the best way you'd do that...

This is exactly what I said earlier in the thread. They will try to bring pressure form his right side.

Whats crazy is even though he doesn't run to his left nearly as much he actually has a higher pass rating scrambling to his left.

Keeping Mahomes from making the off schedule plays is what they will try to do, but they still have to pressure him as he will destroy them from the pocket if they don't.

Chiefshrink 01-18-2019 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 14048514)
He will take away all the short stuff (run game and Kelce) with blitzing so Mahomes and Hill don't have time to hook up on anything deep. Force our offensive line to play smart and deal with stunts, slants, and zone blitzes making Mahomes decide quickly.

Don't let Mahomes roll out to the right.

Pressure, pressure, pressure.

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 14048629)
I bet they come after Mahomes. They aren't usually a blitzing team, but they did it last week to Rivers, and teams have had more success against Mahomes going after him than just sitting back and letting him gut you.

Exactly! I think this is where their focus will be all game and our o-line has to be ready to make adjustments. Fisher,Schwartz(get lazy at times) and especially Irving who is not the sharpest tool in the shed and can be a turnstile at times.:rolleyes: Bill will grind the clock out with the running game and underneath stuff to the RBs to keep Pat on the sidelines for as long as possible.

Mecca 01-18-2019 10:45 AM

Actually in the 1st game they showed the Chiefs a bunch of cover 0 and all out blitzes...good chance they fake that shit and drop out this time.


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