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Beef Supreme 06-13-2018 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 13591826)
Oh, don't misunderstand me. I agree with you about the bad breeding and the thug gang members and/or the dog fighting people. They all suck. They are the reason the pit bulls get a bad rep.
It's not just thug gang members and dog fighting people. A HUGE part of the problem is all of the apologists telling everyone how much of a sweet dog they are and how misunderstood they are.

Yes, they can be super sweet. But they are a bully breed. Bully breeds require an experienced dog owner who knows what that means, not just someone who has owned a lot of dogs before.

The mantra "There is no such thing as a bad dog, only bad owners" is pretty damn misleading. There are a shitload of bad dog owners that think they are good dog owners. When they own pitbulls, it's like playing Russian Roulette. They may never have a problem. But if they do, it's going to be bloody.

And there are, in fact, some bad dogs. People need to get real about that shit. But instead, they get all pissed off at the people who have legitimate concerns about dangerous practices.

Beef Supreme 06-13-2018 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 13591831)
He doesn't comment on anything that doesn't fit his narrative. I posted a great thread that is very relevant when it comes to misrepresentation in dog bite stats and all it got was crickets. Its a waste of time responding to somebody so emotionally attached to being right about their personal observations.He does have some valid points though but saying them over and over again is pointless.
I have never said all pits are bad. I have a problem with preaching that all pits are good and the only problem is bad owners. Ironic that you mention not commenting on anything that doesn't fit a narrative.

notorious 06-13-2018 04:08 PM
Why even take the chance?

New World Order 06-13-2018 04:08 PM
Beef Supreme hits the nail right on the head

Pablo 06-13-2018 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 13591856)
Why even take the chance?
Because they're tough looking dogs and I'll be tough if I own one!!

COchief 06-13-2018 04:36 PM
Once again, factual statistics: 6% of the dog population, 66% of fatal dog attacks, 284 dead including many children since 2005.

They should all be wiped off the map, there is not a single breed trait that can't be found in another more well adjusted breed of dog. Anyone trying to justify anything else to themselves is borderline reeruned.

BIG_DADDY 06-13-2018 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by COchief (Post 13591882)
Once again, factual statistics: 6% of the dog population, 66% of fatal dog attacks, 284 dead including many children since 2005.

They should all be wiped off the map, there is not a single breed trait that can't be found in another more well adjusted breed of dog. Anyone trying to justify anything else to themselves is borderline reeruned.
I already posted on that but you ignored it. FAKE NEWS

OnTheWarpath15 06-13-2018 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 13591875)
Because they're tough looking dogs and I'll be tough if I own one!!
Step 1: Buy Affliction t-shirt

Step 2: Buy Pit Bull

Step 3: ????

Step 4: Profit

COchief 06-13-2018 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 13591887)
I already posted on that but you ignored it. FAKE NEWS
I don't even have to read it to guess..." Oh thats just lumping any dog that looks like a pit, see the american stafford....bullshit bullshit bullshit". It doesn't matter how they became a worthless, vicious, and unpredictable breed, it's simply what they are and there isn't a single valid reason for them to still exist in 2018. The very name of the breed stems from their origin of being the only dog stupid and aggressive enough to bait bulls.

You can not in any way shape or form argue the overwhelming statistics of what violent and destructive garbage they are as a whole, Petey and every other pit can eat shit and die along with any chows or akitas that happen to be strolling by.

BIG_DADDY 06-13-2018 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by COchief (Post 13591896)
I don't even have to read it to guess..." Oh thats just lumping any dog that looks like a pit, see the american stafford....bullshit bullshit bullshit". It doesn't matter how they became a worthless, vicious, and unpredictable breed, it's simply what they are and there isn't a single valid reason for them to still exist in 2018. The very name of the breed stems from their origin of being the only dog stupid and aggressive enough to bait bulls.

You can not in any way shape or form argue the overwhelming statistics of what violent and destructive garbage they are as a whole, Petey and every other pit can eat shit and die along with any chows or akitas that happen to be strolling by.
From factual stats to an emotional vaginal discharge. Thanks for participating.

COchief 06-13-2018 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 13591890)

Step 1: Realize you have a micro penis, realize you aren't tough but want to be, realize ugly, stupid, and an overly aggressive attitude matches well with your personality Buy Affliction t-shirt

Step 2: Buy Pit Bull

Step 3: ????

Step 4: Profit and/or children get ripped limb from limb and die agonizing deaths

Step 5: Get interviewed and state "He was just the sweetest dog and had never hurt a fly" after relative or neighbor gets throat ripped out
Missed a few...

My favorite pit story was the female owner out east that took her precious pibbles on a run and they tore her face and neck out killing her, Darwin snickered hard on that one.

Beef Supreme 06-13-2018 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 13591898)
From factual stats to an emotional vaginal discharge. Thanks for participating.
You' and other pitbull advocates are the ones with a reputation to repair on behalf of the breed, but you aren't willing to address any of the legitimate problems that could make a measurable difference and maybe generate some good will. Instead, you insist the statistics are wrong, and people who doubt you are emotional twats. Your PR campaign is charting fantastically.

Forgive us if we all don't give a **** when they pass breed specific legislation.

Pablo 06-13-2018 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by COchief (Post 13591902)
Missed a few...

My favorite pit story was the female owner out east that took her precious pibbles on a run and they tore her face and neck out killing her, Darwin snickered hard on that one.
She must have made the mistake of getting between them and something else they wished to viciously rip apart.

BIG_DADDY 06-13-2018 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Beef Supreme (Post 13591919)
You' and other pitbull advocates are the ones with a reputation to repair on behalf of the breed, but you aren't willing to address any of the legitimate problems that could make a measurable difference and maybe generate some good will. Instead, you insist the statistics are wrong, and people who doubt you are emotional twats. Your PR campaign is charting fantastically.

Forgive us if we all don't give a **** when they pass breed specific legislation.
1. Who is we all?
2. What was once the rage BSL is now on the way out. The bed wetters can cry all they want for all I care.
3. I simply replied to inaccurate stats that were posted. When it was all boiled down your buddy would implement genocide on all kinds of breeds if he had it his way. Very Wayne Parcellesish. Twat is probably accurate.

I am not a big over legislation guy. I think many that love the breed do educate others but you are never going to get everyone. Owners should be held accountable for what their dogs do. Dogs killing people is not a major problem in our country IMO.

WhiteWhale 06-13-2018 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 13590234)
Yea well I haven't been here for longer than that. The point was that mislabeling the breed which I posted examples of many, many times over the years happens all the time. Trying to get a legitimate stat on this breed is like asking CNN for objective news. The reminder was the presa canarios killing the woman in SF. How they got labeled pit bulls isn't an accident and was certainly no mistake.

Pits were bred to be animal aggressive. They cull human aggression. People handle them in the pit when they are fighting. The most irresponsible owners are those that want to mix it with another breed that is not so stable.

I just googled it because it is not hard to find if you are actually looking for it. I did notice your favorite the CDC is in there.

https://www.pitbullinfo.org/

I didn't read through it but on the surface is looks like tons of different research and 50% of all pit bull attacks are mislabeled. Color me shocked when I used to post examples of this mislabeling all the time.
I have a pit and a lab. She's definitely the alpha and in spite of being socialized with other dogs she's very much a bully. She's a squirrel killing machine too.

Harmless towards people. I'd trust her with an infant.

Not a fan of the breed in particular. I never planned on getting one. I kinda inherited her through circumstance. I was happy with just my lab, but I like her. I'll keep her around.


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