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htismaqe 02-12-2013 01:52 PM

I just don't understand why we would give up a premium to get Foles.

You could get an IDENTICAL prospect in the 3rd or 4th round. You could get a SUPERIOR prospect in the 2nd, which is the pick some are speculating it would take to get Foles.

People don't want to draft Geno Smith because of value value blah blah blah. Yet they're willing to throw a WHOLE ROUND OF VALUE down the toilet to get an unproven guy like Foles?

Reerun_KC 02-12-2013 01:53 PM

Foles = Yes
Alex Smiff + Mediocrity wet dream for some = NO!

Frosty 02-12-2013 01:54 PM

I'm curious who we could get in the 3rd round this year that would compare? Just because Foles was a 3rd rounder last year in a very deep QB class doesn't mean he would be a 3rd rounder this year. I think Foles compares very favorably to Nassib and Glennon and those guys are considered late 1st, early 2nd guys.

suds79 02-12-2013 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 9396687)
I'm curious who we could get in the 3rd round this year that would compare? Just because Foles was a 3rd rounder last year in a very deep QB class doesn't mean he would be a 3rd rounder this year. I think Foles compares very favorably to Nassib and Glennon and those guys are considered late 1st, early 2nd guys.

I think Glennon is a 2nd rounder who could slip. Not sure. He's comparable.

Certainly Tyler Bray could be available in the 3rd. Nobody has his arm talent. Then there's EJ Manuel who everybody says has tools but is raw. Landy Jones? He's a 3rd or so right?

Frosty 02-12-2013 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 9396699)
I think Glennon is a 2nd rounder who could slip. Not sure. He's comparable.

Certainly Tyler Bray could be available in the 3rd. Nobody has his arm talent. Then there's EJ Manuel who everybody says has tools but is raw. Landy Jones? He's a 3rd or so right?

Bray is a headcase, which Foles never was. Jones may be a fair comparison, though his biggest problem is folding under pressure.

I think Manuel will go in the 2nd. Someone will fall in love with his athleticism.

BossChief 02-12-2013 02:02 PM

Chip Kelly should draft Manuel.

RealSNR 02-12-2013 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 9396687)
I'm curious who we could get in the 3rd round this year that would compare? Just because Foles was a 3rd rounder last year in a very deep QB class doesn't mean he would be a 3rd rounder this year. I think Foles compares very favorably to Nassib and Glennon and those guys are considered late 1st, early 2nd guys.

I think Zac Dysert is a far better prospect than Nick Foles is. And we can probably get Dysert in the 3rd if we really want him.

Frosty 02-12-2013 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9396718)
I think Zac Dysert is a far better prospect than Nick Foles is. And we can probably get Dysert in the 3rd if we really want him.

From what I've seen, Dysert = Lindley - a very long term project.

BossChief 02-12-2013 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9396718)
I think Zac Dysert is a far better prospect than Nick Foles is. And we can probably get Dysert in the 3rd if we really want him.

Foles already has a year with Reid and his system and also has game experience.

I'd rather trade a mid rounder for Foles for those reasons, but only as a backup.

I don't think he goes anywhere, though.

RealSNR 02-12-2013 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 9396720)
From what I've seen, Dysert = Lindley - a very long term project.

Except Lindley didn't have Dysert's release or accuracy.

That's my take anyway. If I watch college highlights of the two QBs side by side, there's really no comparison. Lindley just seems skiddish out there to me.

Dysert looks like he's got the arm for the pros.

RealSNR 02-12-2013 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9396725)
Foles already has a year with Reid and his system and also has game experience.

I'd rather trade a mid rounder for Foles for those reasons, but only as a backup.

I don't think he goes anywhere, though.

Eh, whatever. This is all bullshit anyway. Reid already said that he's intrigued by Ricky Stanzi.

We all want a back up? There's our backup.

BossChief 02-12-2013 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9396728)
Eh, whatever. This is all bullshit anyway. Reid already said that he's intrigued by Ricky Stanzi.

We all want a back up? There's our backup.

All in all, I think Reid is more inclined to make chicken salad and not buying some.

Sure would be nice to give the kid a shot.

RealSNR 02-12-2013 02:11 PM

Draft Geno.
Sign Hasselbeck.
Keep Stanzi.
Draft a guy in the 6th/7th round.

Order them as need be on the depth chart and cut the worst guy.

Frosty 02-12-2013 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9396727)
Except Lindley didn't have Dysert's release or accuracy.

That's my take anyway. If I watch college highlights of the two QBs side by side, there's really no comparison. Lindley just seems skiddish out there to me.

Dysert looks like he's got the arm for the pros.

Dysert didn't look very accurate at the Senior Bowl and most scouting reports on him mention that he was a first-read, check down guy in college. I'm not that impressed.

I have been a fan of Foles since his first game at AZ (against my Beavers) and you hate him like he ran over your girlfriend and ****ed your dog (or maybe that's the other way around) so we probably aren't going to see this the same way. :)

RunKC 02-12-2013 02:16 PM

Idk about you guys but I loved Foles when he came out last year. He was awesome at Arizona, but people didn't know it because his coach and team sucked ass.

Arizona was a top 10 passing team in college and Foles was very accurate. The guy has a rifle too.

Hell I liked him more than Wilson, Assweiler, Weeden and Tannehill.

If there is one guy who is comparable to Joe Flacco, it's this guy. He wasn't inconsistent in college and he isn't a pussy like Glennon.


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