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Hammock Parties 03-20-2024 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 17451982)
I think he's enjoying a Ravens fan melting down in his comments and chose this thread to share.

Yes.

What was funny to me is he started on the Ravens "**** you Baltimore" video and then moved on to a Taylor Swift Bears video and a short Super Bowl call video LMAO

Ravens fan enjoying the whole channel!

Bearcat 03-20-2024 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic (Post 17451980)
They actually had a segment on ESPN speculating how many Super Bowls Lamar would have if he had the same coaching as Mahomes. You can’t make this shit up. Lamar is coddled like no other athlete I’ve ever seen. The excuses for him never stop.

JFC, Andy's a genius, not a miracle worker.

gordonelloyd 03-20-2024 11:38 PM

This thread may have raised a relevant question when it started in 2020.

But now the answer is so obvious the question is nonsensical. It’s Mahomes in a landslide. I don’t see how anybody who follows football could see it differently.

The question is a little bit more relevant if you put the comparison against Allan or maybe even Burroughs [although he has to get beyond the injury issues] and while mahomes obviously beats them out as well the question is maybe relevant to ask. It’s not relevant to ask about Jackson.

New World Order 03-21-2024 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by gordonelloyd (Post 17452073)
This thread may have raised a relevant question when it started in 2020.

But now the answer is so obvious the question is nonsensical. It’s Mahomes in a landslide. I don’t see how anybody who follows football could see it differently.

The question is a little bit more relevant if you put the comparison against Allan or maybe even Burroughs [although he has to get beyond the injury issues] and while mahomes obviously beats them out as well the question is maybe relevant to ask. It’s not relevant to ask about Jackson.

Allen is the only one in the league who can somewhat mimic the throws Mahomes makes.

He's #2 imo.

1. Mahomes
2. Allen
3. Stroud
4. Burrow
5. Jackson

Rausch 03-21-2024 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by gordonelloyd (Post 17452073)
The question is a little bit more relevant if you put the comparison against Allan or maybe even Burroughs [although he has to get beyond the injury issues] and while mahomes obviously beats them out as well the question is maybe relevant to ask.

Not really.

Mahomes is breaking the numbers of all time greats now. He's not only a class above all QB's of his time he's also knocking down records of ALL TIME greats. Brady, Montana, you name it. Not even they are safe from falling...

ThaVirus 03-21-2024 06:28 AM

Yes, some of my favorite NFL QBs, Jawsh Allan and Jeaux Burroughs.

Rainbarrel 03-21-2024 07:03 AM

So do the Ravens, Bills, Jaguars.... Have to defect to the NFC or just their QBs. Stop whining like a 49er and get it done

Radar Chief 03-21-2024 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17451990)
You seem to be getting very worked up by journalists trying to engage people like you whom otherwise would be bored after having enjoyed the fruits of Mahomes.. Relax, my friend, and bathe in the sweet nectar of success.

/Holthus

jd1020 03-21-2024 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic (Post 17451980)
They actually had a segment on ESPN speculating how many Super Bowls Lamar would have if he had the same coaching as Mahomes. You can’t make this shit up. Lamar is coddled like no other athlete I’ve ever seen. The excuses for him never stop.

I would venture to guess the same coaching that Mahomes has wouldn't hitch themselves to Lamar's wagon. How long has Lamar been around to know that you shouldnt throw into triple coverage, let alone in the playoffs, let alone in the endzone, let alone on a potentially game winning drive, and he still does it... every single ****ing year.

Dunerdr 03-21-2024 09:22 AM

Andy wasn't able to get it done with McNaab. I was just a pup then but in my opinion Donovan was a better pure qb than Lamar. It was a different era but still. Andy isn't going with just any QB. It's a perfect match of head coach and QB. They accent each other perfectly like has never been seen. Lamar doesn't have the IQ for this play book and I doubt Allen does either. Maybe its just an assumption but Joshs deer in the headlights look and Lamars inability to speak like an adult give me pause.

DJ's left nut 03-21-2024 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17452090)
Allen is the only one in the league who can somewhat mimic the throws Mahomes makes.

He's #2 imo.

1. Mahomes
2. Allen
3. Stroud
4. Burrow
5. Jackson

The A version of Allen is as good as the A version of Mahomes.

The B version f Allen is close, but not quite as good as Mahomes.

The C version of Allen is more frequently seen than the C version of Mahomes and nowhere near as good as the C version of Mahomes. C Allen will lose his team football games. C Mahomes will just go out there and not actively win them (he becomes solid but unspectacular while taking nothing off the table; 'bad' Mahomes is essentially good Alex).

The D version of Allen is a laughable catastrophe that surfaces a 2-3 times/season. The D version of Mahomes doesn't exist.

What distinguishes the two isn't how good they are at their best - that's neck and neck. It's how often they're that good and then how good they are when they AREN'T at their best.

ChiTown 03-21-2024 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17452319)
The A version of Allen is as good as the A version of Mahomes.

The B version f Allen is close, but not quite as good as Mahomes.

The C version of Allen is more frequently seen than the C version of Mahomes and nowhere near as good as the C version of Mahomes. C Allen will lose his team football games. C Mahomes will just go out there and not actively win them (he becomes solid but unspectacular while taking nothing off the table; 'bad' Mahomes is essentially good Alex).

The D version of Allen is a laughable catastrophe that surfaces a 2-3 times/season. The D version of Mahomes doesn't exist.

What distinguishes the two isn't how good they are at their best - that's neck and neck. It's how often they're that good and then how good they are when they AREN'T at their best.

Perfectly described and stated!

Wisconsin_Chief 03-21-2024 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17452319)
The A version of Allen is as good as the A version of Mahomes.

The B version f Allen is close, but not quite as good as Mahomes.

The C version of Allen is more frequently seen than the C version of Mahomes and nowhere near as good as the C version of Mahomes. C Allen will lose his team football games. C Mahomes will just go out there and not actively win them (he becomes solid but unspectacular while taking nothing off the table; 'bad' Mahomes is essentially good Alex).

The D version of Allen is a laughable catastrophe that surfaces a 2-3 times/season. The D version of Mahomes doesn't exist.

What distinguishes the two isn't how good they are at their best - that's neck and neck. It's how often they're that good and then how good they are when they AREN'T at their best.

:clap:

Rainbarrel 03-21-2024 10:51 AM

Lamar and Allen can do no wrong with their fan bases. A season in New York would probably change their fire to a new level

PunkinDrublic 03-22-2024 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 17385805)
I might take a gamble on Herbert or Lawrence. They’re close to entering Jay Cutler territory and Lamar can at least win.

I would take Trevor Lawrence over Lamar any day. He’s still young and you could make the argument the Urban Meyer debacle stunted his rookie season. This year he took a bit of a step back although injuries may have played a role but I really liked what I saw from him the season before where he led the Jags to a huge comeback win over the Chargers in the playoffs something Lamar only wishes he could accomplish. I still think Lawrence has a chance to have a good career.


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