The cartel is competing with Madrigal, if anything. Gus is the one with ties to Madrigal, not the Cartel. The Cartel and Gus are in competition. That's why the cartel wants the recipe for the blue meth. With the same product, the cartel can crowd Gus out of his own territory.

There's something powerful behind Madrigal, it seems. The only reason that Gus hasn't been murdered himself is because of "who he is," which has to do with his mysterious ties back in Chile and possibly with Madrigal.

Nice. Finally got it working on Netflix. Time to get caught up!

Interesting. My impression was that the cartel and Gus were sibling entities of the Madrigal group, but I see your take on it. That makes me all the more curious about Madrigal. Damn if this story doesn't pop your synapses.

The flashback really adds depth to his character, especially considering he went ahead with his plan anyway and said fuck the cartel. Pure balls.

There are so many directions this saga could go at this point, cant imagine the possibilities becoming more numerous at the end of future episodes as they are right now. What a phenomenal show.

I think one of the cops in the meeting with Hank and Gus may be feeding information to Gus, or to Mike, who in turn tells Gus.

I also think that Gus must have a cartel informant in his organization due to the way they knew how Gus's shipments work. Maybe they just know from their past affiliation with him, though.

i thought that too, you never know though. if their own shipments to the US are becoming fewer because great meth is now available where it wasn't before, they could put two and two together pretty easily. doesn't explain how they knew what truck it was in and more specifically which container though.

I think the cartel knew the shipping distribution methods because they were previously the meth suppliers and were involved. Gus got his own meth production from his super lab and walt and no longer needed the cartel supplied meth.

which makes you wonder....why do they care about making the blue, they just need the distribution system. Or is there an unending demand for meth?

Gus only controls the Southwest US.

Holy F**K! Shit just got real. One of the best episodes yet. Besides Skyler and her bullshit.

Wow. That was epic.

Wow tonight's episode was fricken badass! Not that most of the episodes aren't darn good also, but this one just owned!

Also for the record I could've sworn I read an article somewhere, where Aaron Paul (Jesse in BB) mentioned something or another about how there will be two more seasons after this season. They are gonna split up those 16 episodes you mentioned into two seasons. Season 5 will be 10 episodes I think and season 6 will be 6 episodes just like the first season was only 6 episodes. Don't hold me too this, cause I can't seem to remember where I read this. In any case, you're correct. There will be 16 more episodes after this current season.

Holy shitballs.

Hahaha! Epic.

Although, what about Mike?

I was pretty drunk when I watched last night. I think I'll watch it again in a few minutes.