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eazyb81 03-14-2012 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Braincase (Post 8451950)
Don't confuse opinions with facts. The facts: 4 schools have left. 2 schools have committed to play in the conference next season. Although West Virginia and TCU may not have the history of Nebraska, based on the current status of their respective football programs, they are more than adequate. West Virginia is a very good basketball school, and TCU is probably on the same level of Nebraska or Colorado in basketball.

The Big 12 is probably not done with their membership. Any number of schools are considering moves, and the Big 12 has been mentioned prominently with a number of schools.

I am well aware that a number of fans from Nebraska, Colorado, TAMU and Mizzou not only believe but strongly desire for the Big 12 to fold up like a circus tent.

My opinion? The circus has left town and took their tents with them. The Big 12 is going to be fine...and I know that really pisses off some people.

Nothing in this rambling reply counters the original point that the Big 12 is effectively dead as a power conference whenever texass decides it can make more money somewhere else.

Given that they have openly flirted with other conferences in each of the last two seasons - including last year after the new mega cool $1BB Fox contract - then how can anyone have confidence they won't do it again?

And most Mizzou fans don't care whether the Big 12 lives or dies. All I care about is Mizzou, and I am thankful we got a life jacket from the best conference in the country.

Messier 03-14-2012 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 8452676)
Nothing in this rambling reply counters the original point that the Big 12 is effectively dead as a power conference whenever texass decides it can make more money somewhere else.

Given that they have openly flirted with other conferences in each of the last two seasons - including last year after the new mega cool $1BB Fox contract - then how can anyone have confidence they won't do it again?

And most Mizzou fans don't care whether the Big 12 lives or dies. All I care about is Mizzou, and I am thankful we got a life jacket from the best conference in the country.

Judging by some of the posts by MU fans, I think they do care what happens to the Big 12. I think they openly want it to fail.

Mr. Plow 03-14-2012 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 8452695)
Judging by some of the posts by MU fans, I think they do care what happens to the Big 12. I think they openly want it to fail.


Yup, most of them actually.

Bambi 03-14-2012 12:53 PM

It's the Wild West boys!

And we're charging into the unknowwwwwwwwn!!!!!!

Bambi 03-14-2012 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 8452664)
No kidding, genious. Guess what? If you think the deal is bigger than it would be with Mizzou and A & M, as opposed to WVU and TCU, you truly are an idiot.

The Big XII got a good deal despite losing those two schools, not because they left.

Maybe. I don't know. You could be right.

There's so many zeros involved now though for the Big 12 schools that it doesn't really matter.

Championships matter. And that is what I want my school to focus on moving forward in this great league.

mnchiefsguy 03-14-2012 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 8452712)
Yup, most of them actually.

You could also say that most of the Big XII fans (KU, KSU, etc.) are openly campaigning for Mizzou to fail in the SEC as well. It works both ways. Divorces are a messy business.

kcchiefsus 03-14-2012 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 8452584)
The extension, when combined with the Big 12’s existing Fox TV deal, would bring the conference’s total TV revenue to $2.5 billion through 2025. By SportsBusiness Daily’s calculations, each school in the 10-team league would make $5 million more per year under the new deal, with total TV revenue pushing close to $20 million a year.

It is what it is.

You so realize that once the SEC TV contracts are renegotiated they will make the Big 12 contract look minuscule in comparison.

Pitt Gorilla 03-14-2012 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 8452743)
Maybe. I don't know. You could be right.

There's so many zeros involved now though for the Big 12 schools that it doesn't really matter.

Championships matter. And that is what I want my school to focus on moving forward in this great league.

Which league has won the National Championship the last six years?

kcchiefsus 03-14-2012 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 8452796)
Which league has won the National Championship the last six years?

Which is why the SEC TV contract will dwarf that of the Big 12.

Mr. Plow 03-14-2012 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 8452761)
You could also say that most of the Big XII fans (KU, KSU, etc.) are openly campaigning for Mizzou to fail in the SEC as well. It works both ways. Divorces are a messy business.

I actually think they'll do decent next year with their football schedule - I'm not sure they'll be the doormat of the SEC that a lot seem to. Honestly, I think they'll do a little worse, maybe as well as, they did in the Big 12 year in/year out.

I'll be honest and say I'd prefer MU in the Big 12. This type of hatred belongs together.

Bambi 03-14-2012 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsus (Post 8452792)
You so realize that once the SEC TV contracts are renegotiated they will make the Big 12 contract look minuscule in comparison.

When is that going to be?

Bambi 03-14-2012 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 8452796)
Which league has won the National Championship the last six years?

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize why the southern teams are the best in football. But colleges compete in many other sports besides football.


43 percent of the NFL's defensive linemen went to high school in the following 10 states: Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina and Tennessee.

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz1p7YsLR11

Frazod 03-14-2012 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 8452761)
You could also say that most of the Big XII fans (KU, KSU, etc.) are openly campaigning for Mizzou to fail in the SEC as well. It works both ways. Divorces are a messy business.

Big Texas will continue to be what it is - Bevo & the Goon lording over their lackeys. I figure Kansas State will be the new Missouri - the best team from one of those "other places" that the powers don't care about. They'll be the ones getting shafted in bowl selections and losing close games on questionable/ridiculous calls.

But that's okay, since you can't spell one who sucks the penis without KSU, either. :thumb:

kcchiefsus 03-14-2012 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 8452852)
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize why the southern teams are the best in football. But colleges compete in many other sports besides football.


43 percent of the NFL's defensive linemen went to high school in the following 10 states: Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina and Tennessee.

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz1p7YsLR11

As far as money is concerned nobody gives a shit about the other sports. Football is where the money is.

mnchiefsguy 03-14-2012 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsus (Post 8452875)
As far as money is concerned nobody gives a shit about the other sports. Football is where the money is.

Oh man, now you've done it. Wickedson is now going to inform you all about KU's ball busting third tier rights deal, and tell that the bball tourney is the be all end all of college revenue.


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