Lane is reincarnated as the Gieco Lizzard, Megan gets braces and gives birth to a young Cindy Crawford. Cindy Crawford crows up and has a one night stand with Eric Nies. Old Burt Cooper, Don, Megan, and Eric Nies dance on a water platform on "the grind" on 90's MTV

I dont think Don returns to his womanizing ways. Been there done that. Don, the charector cant grow being the womenizer.

He's defintely done with this wife.

all him and his wife do is fight anyway

Don is going to replace Brian Jones in the Rolling Stones. It was slyly referenced to earlier in the season.

Bump for Sunday

I really need to start watching this show, don't I

Absolutely.

Wouldn't mention 'bump' in the vicinity of Jon Hamm at the moment.

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hey, where are you at for justified? I've missed your commentary.

Gameday.

Ahh yes. Just wrapped up season whatever it was. Will be curious to see what happens with Peggy being gone. I thought it was odd that nothing came of Don's secret being out, but you know that's going to play out at some point. I'm pretty stoked for the new season.

Can't wait.

I need to find a refresher video. Can't quite remember what was going on at the end.

Netflix dude. They're all up. I literally just finished them. Sally got her period, and Betty is trying to lose weight. Her new husband is turning into a failure and she's clearly jealous of Don's success and young hottie. Pete's latest affair got electric shock and forgot him. Lane committed suicide after Don fired him for embezzlement. There's more, you can find it on Netflix.

Whoa, Fat Betty. Bam-a-lam.

What is Don's secret again? That he has a giant dick?

Please bring back skinny Betty.

CAN'T WAIT. More excited for this than last week's Game of Thrones premiere and Walking Dead finale combined.

can't wait indeed....

This is the show. Everything else has just been tiding me over. Of course, I'll be in France for the next two weeks, so I've got a wait ahead of me still. Don't care. So pumped this show is back!

He's not Don Draper. He stole Don Draper's identity when he was killed in Korea. He took his ID and killed himself off.

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Is it on tonight? My guide says next week.

Walking Dead is good. The Americans has me hooked. But Mad Men? Nothing is even close.

Your guide is ****ed.

31 minutes away.

“How Jewish are they…’Fiddler on the Roof’, audience or cast?” — Roger Sterling

Oh Don. You're a dirtbag.

his dick has to smell sometime? I know I've been busted due to that.

Oh yeah, forgot.

Man...Don is a **** up.

WHAT THE **** DON

OH DON

When did Zach Galifinakis sign on with Sterling Cooper?

Southland is doing a slow burn on me, that that last episode was some of the most HARROWING shit I've ever seen outside premium cable or the movies.

The whole time I was like 'is this shit REALLY happening on my TV screen?'

In this most recent episode, I may be totally on peyote, and may offend some's political sensibilities. But between her new hairdo, her fashion sense, and her facial features, Peggy struck me as almost a precise hybrid of Margaret Thatcher and Hillary Clinton. Wonder if Weiner was going for something in that vein.

Also, her assertiveness throughout was breathtaking, most particularly when the client said about selling a sea of drunk college guys on the fun of their product; 'I don't know how to do that' and she replied 'and I do, . . . give me a couple of days.'

This has been sticking with me, the M20 is not the most advanced Leica in 1967-1968, but if was the bane of Vietnam water buffalo according to a certain PFC.

We may have just entered cartoon territory.

You have lost me. Explain please.

Did you watch last night's episode? If so, let me know and I'll include spoiler tags.

I think she's trying to be Don, but it's not fitting her personality, and then it seemed to strike her as she watched Abe listening to the headphones.

With the new affair? It's a little much. First off, the doctor and wife seem completely different; one wonders how they are compatible. Also, Don's #th affair is a tiring plot line. It's one of the least interesting things about the show.

Bummer where the show is going. Especially hairy's sideburns.

I still have nightmares from that Southland episode. Unreal scene after unreal scene. Can't believe it was on TV.

I understood what you're talking about differently.

That's a different and valid take, although I disagree with the sentiment that he cares about his family, albeit, children. I don't think he gives a shit. Otherwise, he'd be far more involved in their lives.

I think he cares, but just can't demonstrate it.

Yeah, this season has been disappointing, to say the least.

I've had my fill of Don being self-destructive. Oh there's been some high points in there - "That's the most deft self-immolation I've ever seen; I didn't know you were capable of being that bad" being my favorite thus far, but there's been too little of that and too much of Don banging his buddy's wife. He's sliding closer and closer to appearing beyond any kind of sustainable happiness.

Don's always been the most unlikeable, likable guy on television. Or maybe he's the most likeable, unlikeable guy on television. In either event, he makes it easy for us to cringe and want him to do better for himself. But with yet another tryst, this time with the spouse of someone that could be a close friend (in a life where he only has one or two of those), you just get closer and closer to telling him to get ****ed and hoping that he walks in on Megan banging her co-star just to put him down a peg or two.

And Pete's character has just become outwardly pathetic. I guess that's the natural outgrowth of a guy that has always had a sleazy, self-loathing streak to him finally coming into significant power, but it doesn't make it any easier to stomach.

It's mostly become a show full of devoutly unhappy people that make it easy to hope they all somehow die in the same subway accident. There's no more of the comic relief provided by Roger or the glimpses of brilliantly talented but tortured 'alpha-male' that make us forget that Don's probably a cad.

Mad Men is slowly turning into a snuff film.

I think he cared; now I think he's become removed enough from his family that he thinks of them as a fond memory. He doesn't seem to have any active role in their lives and seems wholly content with that.

I'm sure it's intentional that the 3 women you've cited as his only positive influences are the only 3 major female characters that he's not slept with on that show. He does seem to create a dichotomy between women and **** toys but I'm not sure when or how he draws that line. Maybe they're all **** toys and the ones that don't bang him slowly evolve into women that he can then see as positive influences on his life.

I think Don treats megan like a little kid because that is how men treated woman in those days

Even Sally, who showed a lot of promising qualities in the middle seasons, has become a loathing bitch.

On the other hand, Roger's delayed breakdown was touching.

I did love the way Don destroyed the Jaguar pitch...

Yeah, I'm up to date on everything. Thanks.

Also, consider its not made clear when Don started his womanizing ways. He didn't seem like a man capable of being smooth with women when he was still Dick in Korea. Do used car salesman have game? Did it start when he was a furrier?

In all honesty, I have no desire to find out.

What made this show great for me was that it depicted an exciting era, city and industry. Don's story was certainly compelling.

Now, it's beginning to feel, as I mentioned earlier, "cartoonish". It's almost becoming whiny, because the creator of the series seems intent on making Don a textbook case for his identity. Instead of Don realizing his faults and making headstrong decisions to combat and overcome, he just keeps falling into the same routine which yield the same results. It's become stale.

I'm just waiting for them to reveal that he was in 40's porn films, then watch him jump off the building in Manhattan during the series finale.

I'm fine with the repetition, with some characters repeatedly making the same mistakes. To a point, anyway. There's a danger of the repetition feeling less and less like a deliberate statement and more like a show circling around because its contracted to provide more seasons than there really should be.

I'm not worried about this season yet. I thought the two-part opener was good. The most recent episode absolutely didn't need those flashbacks, but I have faith in the show to recover from what felt like a C-level episode. It seemed largely about putting pieces into place anyway, and still had stuff to really like (namely Trudy).

Not to break the string, but do you ever make contact with the UBC/Earwolf crowd?

Yes. I was just at Matt and Jimmy's studio Saturday.

Peggy's secretary reminded me of Dave Chapelle when he is that guy who is on crack.

Hypocrite much, Don?

Goddamn this has been a heavy episode.

definitely - it was one of the better ones in a while.

Don is on a downward spiral. I wonder if he dies in the finale.

They've seemingly written out the best characters. Trending downward.

Who has been written out?

Roger's been marginalized. Peggy's obviously been toned down a bit as well.

I don't think they've been written out as much as the show has simply become too sprawling. It's hard to have Peggy involved as much from a different agency. It's hard to also work in Meghan's career as well. It's really come at the expense of Betty and the kids (an arc that lost steam 3 years ago, so I'm not sad to see it go) and at the expense of the continuity of the show.

I like Dawn as a character; I think she could really be a nice addition and strong protagonist going forward. I hope Don doesn't try to bang her.

For the record, Don's pitch campaign was better than Peggy's, but Peggy happened to hit the bulls-eye for the guy doing the choosing.

And yeah, I think Don will eventually end up dead. There's clearly nothing that's going to satiate the man. With Anna Draper gone, I just don't think he has a moral compass left at all and there's nowhere for him to go at this point. He's rudderless and Weiner's going to kill him off when all is said and done. And they're also closing in on some of the shittiest times in American history. 1968-1972 were pretty much catastrophes for the American Psyche.

He's going to go to rehab and get cleaned up...marry a Cards fan...then 1985 comes she kills herself. Don Becomes Royals fan...then kills himself.

I'm not sure I find the show to be too sprawling, but it certainly does have a larger scope than it did in season 1. The days of every episode having a Don A-plot, Roger/Joan B-plot, and Peggy/Pete C-plot are over. Besides, Mad Men has for the past few seasons never really felt constructed into episodes as much as seasons. Every gets balanced out over the span of the season.

Heavy Episode with the MLK Shooting - this episode was all over the place, some of it was very well done and some of it.. I want to say seemed forced.

I'll keep watching

Bert's mediation scene was awful.

I liked that episode.

Don was human...if ever so briefly. Meghan remained something of a spoiled brat, but at least a semi-compassionate spoiled brat.

The Pete/Harry argument was interesting if for no other reason than to show that the race card is hardly new.

Not being alive then, it was also interesting to me to see how they portrayed the MLK assassination. Was it really something that rocked middle-class white America? Granted, many of these folks aren't blue-collar middle class, but it sure seemed like this resonated far more throughout the city than I had ever imagined it did.

And if Don goes, he goes off that balcony in his apartment. That's the first time I recall them focusing on the height/expanse of the balcony. And he had that exhausted look about him that I'd imagine one often sees in someone right before the plunge. Just a thought.

Like I said, Don's era has come to a close. With the impending arrival of the 70s, the reign of the alpha males is coming to a close. He'll either find peace soon, or find pavement later.

It seemed that some of the people were concerned due to the likelihood of riots.

Now THAT was a great episode.

Yes

Wow.

AMEN

I was not Expecting this... I was Shouting

Man that was a fun episode.

Super fun. Some deus ex machina contrivances involving