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Willie Lanier 05-17-2018 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 13559297)
Lol. Need to improve significantly? Do you know that Alex Smith had a career season last year, was at some point in the conversation for the MVP award and that the Chiefs offense, including the running game, was elite?

His football takes must be taken with a grain of salt, he really doesn't know the game all that well...

CasselGotPeedOn 05-17-2018 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 13558694)
Wtf. You people are insane homers.
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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12779874)
Am I the only one that thinks Mahomes is a Terrible prospect? His footwork is awful and it's not something that will be fixed in the NFL. He has so many throws that come off his back foot or off balance and not even out of necessity. It's just his natural throwing style to do so.

Most of the QBs need work, but he needs the most work by far and I don't think he'll ever fix his mechanics especially not by 2018 when I want our drafted QB to start by.
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Sweet take

BleedingRed 05-17-2018 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 13559192)
The top of the NFL was 3577 yrds, 34 TD last year. I think expectations are getting a little out of control thinking Mahomes is going to be top-3 in Yrd/TD in his 1st year starting.

Look I get it, but let me show you why I strongly believe he will be.......

https://usathss.files.wordpress.com/...0&h=600&crop=1

That and the fact ( I know its was BIG 12) Mahomes hasn't thrown for less than 4,600 yard and 30+ TD's his whole starting career.

He has Sammy Watkins/ Tyreek Hill / Travis Kelce / Kareem Hunt....... He has never had target of this quality. Add the fact he has the leagues leading rusher... and a HC who is known for getting the most our of QB's in a QB Friendly system.....

I know it seems impossible, but the closest Andy Ried has ever had to this unit level of talent is when Mike Vick was starting. (AND EVEN THEN HE DIDN'T HAVE A TE with this level of talent)Get ready to see games that look like this.......


<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/mSLWk0q_vu8" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

-King- 05-17-2018 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 13559741)
Sweet take

I think/hope I was wrong. I'll own my dumbass takes. I'm just a fan on a message board.
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Priest31kc 05-17-2018 04:35 PM

I think some of the low projections might be because of our schedule...

According to Warren Sharp we have the 5th hardest schedule and face the 2nd hardest defenses collectively. We face the fewest bottom 10 teams (2) and the most top 10 teams (6)...

Chargers have the 3rd easiest schedule. Raiders with the 5th. Texans with the easiest schedule, Watson will have a much easier time than Mahomes, so when Pat puts up similar or better numbers it'll be even more impressive.

Oh and the Patriots with the 2nd easiest schedule, Jags with the 4th...

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nf...th-of-schedule

Priest31kc 05-17-2018 04:39 PM

The schedule really is rough this year. It's really the only thing that's preventing me from going full homer and saying Pat will put up 4,500 yards & 35 TDs in his first season.

If he gets this team to 10-6 or better and gets us to the playoffs again and puts up big time numbers against this schedule in his first season...Man.

Can't wait for this season

Halfcan 05-17-2018 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Priest31kc (Post 13560149)
I think some of the low projections might be because of our schedule...

According to Warren Sharp we have the 5th hardest schedule and face the 2nd hardest defenses collectively. We face the fewest bottom 10 teams (2) and the most top 10 teams (6)...

Chargers have the 3rd easiest schedule. Raiders with the 5th. Texans with the easiest schedule, Watson will have a much easier time than Mahomes, so when Pat puts up similar or better numbers it'll be even more impressive.

Oh and the Patriots with the 2nd easiest schedule, Jags with the 4th...

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nf...th-of-schedule

Good- if you want to be the best...you have to beat the best. We will roll into the playoffs having beaten the best defenses in the NFL.

New World Order 05-17-2018 05:06 PM

The media just doesn't get it.

When we drafted Mahomes they said KC reached for an unready and raw prospect. He balls out in preseason and at Denver then in some of the 2017 mock redrafts they have Mahomes going in the top 6.

Now, they doubt our offense because they think Mahomes isn't ready.

They will find out soon.

Hog's Gone Fishin 05-17-2018 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 13560174)
The media just doesn't get it.

When we drafted Mahomes they said KC reached for an unready and raw prospect. He balls out in preseason and at Denver then in some of the 2017 mock redrafts they have Mahomes going in the top 6.

Now, they doubt our offense because they think Mahomes isn't ready.

They will find out soon.

It's all good , we fans that really follow the team know what's coming. Mahomes is going to light it up.

Chiefshrink 05-17-2018 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 13559297)
Lol. Need to improve significantly? Do you know that Alex Smith had a career season last year, was at some point in the conversation for the MVP award and that the Chiefs offense, including the running game, was elite?

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 13559425)
We had the leading rusher in the NFL and a QB that threw for over 4,000 yards behind an O line with starters missing last year.

I think they will be better this year, at least I hope so. What we do know- the play won't be over when our QB is flushed out of the pocket like it was last year. Defenses won't be able to stack the line either. Mahomes will make the O line better with his skillset and pocket awareness.

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 13559458)
You apparently don't realize that part of the reason the running game struggled at times (especially during that mid-season slump) was because teams were stacking the box and keying on the running game. Alex Smith and his struggles and short passing made teams stop respecting the passing game. IMO, Pat Mahommes should make defenses respect the passing game on the whole field. And that, in turn, should open up the running game. It's not just about blocking.

You all make fair points. And I do realize the AS struggles and the Mahomes effect but our o-line needs to get some nastiness if we are going deep into the playoffs. We cannot run at will when needed. There are times when you have to run at will even if the box is stacked and we cannot do that is my point. Our running game did not stay elite last year because we lack nastiness in the trenches regardless if the box is stacked or not. The Mahomes effect will help no doubt BUT if you cannot run at will when needed it makes it easier to defend Mahomes & Co. especially in the red zone.

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13559461)
The current OL isn't good enough,
The OL is good.

:spock:

Our o-line is just okay IMHO.

TEX 05-18-2018 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 13560200)
It's all good , we fans that really follow the team know what's coming. Mahomes is going to light it up.

Yep, AND if he played in a BIG market, the media would be on board as well.

BleedingRed 05-18-2018 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 13560587)
Yep, AND if he played in a BIG market, the media would be on board as well.

fact

O.city 05-18-2018 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 13560297)
You all make fair points. And I do realize the AS struggles and the Mahomes effect but our o-line needs to get some nastiness if we are going deep into the playoffs. We cannot run at will when needed. There are times when you have to run at will even if the box is stacked and we cannot do that is my point. Our running game did not stay elite last year because we lack nastiness in the trenches regardless if the box is stacked or not. The Mahomes effect will help no doubt BUT if you cannot run at will when needed it makes it easier to defend Mahomes & Co. especially in the red zone.



:spock:

Our o-line is just okay IMHO.

It’s a shell game with the cap. You can’t put that many resources to one place is what makes it tough. Look at Dallas. All that capitol in the ol and other parts struggle. Gotta hit on some cheap labor somewhere.

And the chiefs ol helped the chiefs to a legitimate top 5 offense last year. It’s not the chiefs ol of 03, but realistically we probably won’t wver see that again

COchief 05-18-2018 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 13558998)
I have suffered from battered Chief's fan syndrome my entire life and it seems you have it too by the way you attacked my post. Like if we get too excited or too optimistic about Mahomes- he will bust or get hurt. I am so excited for the season, I am sorry if the optimism intimidates you. I will dial it back. Please accept my sincerest apologies. I hope we can be friends and enjoy Mahomes ****ing steamrolling teams this year. :)

Thanks and sorry man, I admittedly am so on edge about Mahome's potential and I absolutely agree that I think he could legitimately dominate the league for a decade plus, it was probably the trauma of battered Chiefs syndrome getting the best of me and for whatever reason your post had such an air of certainty (to me I guess) that it made me flip out.

I wish people would refrain from Brady comparisons for at least a decade (I don't even like the prick, but his career is undeniable). People in general do not respect the GOATs and don't seem to comprehend what the greatest of all time truly means, Jordan comparisons piss me off more than anything (again a prick IMO, but undeniable greatness). Anyway, offseason blows and I'm not directing the GOAT stuff at you in particular, just ranting a bit. Cheers :toast:

Molitoth 05-18-2018 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 13558637)
Chiefs and Mahomes are getting zero respect.

I'm cool with that. Teams are going to be unprepared.


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