Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 11269922)

This many pullups, don't you start to see diminishing returns at some point?

Originally Posted by Aspengc8 (Post 11270111)

Takes a hell of a lot more than some pull ups to 'over train'. Most people don't even train hard enough to come remotely close to burning out like that. As long as your not chronically under-eating and missing out on sleep... it will never happen.

Originally Posted by Numbah One (Post 11270226)

You can overtrain a body part. 400 pullups every day sounds like overtraining your biceps to me.

Originally Posted by NewChief (Post 11271752)

For those who know more than I do about this stuff: can you get this look without steroids?
http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/attachmen...9&d=1421419201

It's of one of the Hogs linebackers. I've been really impressed with our S&C coach's transformations he's made of our players. He's a crazy freak who espouses super clean eating and such (I see him at our natural food store all the time). However, I'm beginning to wonder if a lot of these guys aren't juicing, especially after this picture.

Here's a video about him:
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/o4W259aUX3k" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Originally Posted by Aspengc8 (Post 11272698)

paperthin skin & cannonball shoulders... you be the judge. Either way they both need to take a aromatase inhibitor or something to deal with estrogen.. they both have some gyno going on.

Originally Posted by Aspengc8 (Post 11272698)

paperthin skin & cannonball shoulders... you be the judge. Either way they both need to take a aromatase inhibitor or something to deal with estrogen.. they both have some gyno going on.

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 11273038)

Yea looks pretty obvious. College football and the NFL are loaded with 'roids and a much larger percentage of HGH use IMO. His gyno is very noticeable on his left pec in the first picture.

Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 11272819)

What do you guys eat (or ingest) before intense crossfit workouts? Also after?

Originally Posted by Aspengc8 (Post 11274366)

Extremely short testosterone esters make testing (getting caught) very difficult. Test suspension is out of your system in like a day or two.. and those kids can beef up over the summer when they are home and keep all their size as long as they keep calories high enough to support it.




just my $.02, but if your fat (>15% for male), you dont need anything before working out. Maybe a pre-workout or some coffee, but as far as 'fuel' goes, think of fat as stored fuel. The leaner you are, the better your body uses carbz as you have better insulin sensitivity. Silock would know better as he is lean as fawk.

Originally Posted by Silock (Post 11274369)

I don't eat before workouts. It's just not necessary if your nutrition is on point. Feed yourself well generally and it will fall into place.

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 11274714)

+1. I don't eat specifically before a workout either. Maybe a protein bar for lunch and a workout 2-3 hours later. Some days I don't eat anything all day and workout at 2-3 pm. I've noticed no difference in strength from when I always used to meal time 90 minutes before a workout with protein/carbs to not really giving a shit about eating like I do now. I actually prefer a relatively empty stomach when training now.