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O.city 02-17-2024 07:54 PM
Need an offensive signing or two like tranquil and edwards

Otherwise….it’s the draft. Just gotta keep hitting

JohnnyHammersticks 02-17-2024 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Urc Burry (Post 17407940)
Sounds like Omenihu is hoping for an early extension. I’d sign up for that

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Didn’t have a full season and put up numbers. Does that go unnoticed? Might have to do it again to get what I want at the end.</p>&mdash; Charles Omenihu (@charless_94) <a href="https://twitter.com/charless_94/status/1758991681440145494?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 17, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
7 sacks in 11 games.

Plus 2 more in less than 2 1/2 playoff games.

Needs to extend though '25, hopefully put in a full season and get paid somewhere.

O.city 02-17-2024 09:07 PM
He ain’t gonna sign an extension off an acl and neither are chiefs

BigRedChief 02-17-2024 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 17408149)
Sneed is the must.
maybe. If you sign Sneed. You can forget about signing McDuffie. No way Veach is paying top market for 2 corners.

Shag 02-17-2024 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17408075)
Yup.

The tag was never designed to be used on guys looking for a 3rd deal; that 25% kicker makes it prohibitive and of little value to the team. There's next to no surplus to be created by dropping a $30+ million tag on Jones - it would be akin to hostage taking and little else.

It's designed for the exactly the situation the Chiefs face with Sneed. No real risk he holds out. Plenty surplus value created and a fair bit of leverage even in trying to work on a long-term deal.

It just doesn't make any sense at all to tag Jones. It makes ALL the sense in the world to tag Sneed.
Sneed's age works against him in this situation, and in KC's favor. He's 27 exiting his first contract, and if he just plays on the tag, he's now trying to negotiate a big payday at 28 (when most top guys are after their 3rd contract). And that's assuming he has another great/healthy season. It should be in his best interest to negotiate in good faith, but take a 3-4 year deal with KC, even if it's a little lower ACV than he could get on the open market.

Shag 02-17-2024 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17408247)
maybe. If you sign Sneed. You can forget about signing McDuffie. No way Veach is paying top market for 2 corners.
McDuffie has 3 more years on his rookie deal, the two are completely independent of each other. Unless something drastically changes with his play, KC is going to pay McDuffie regardless what happens with Sneed.

Chris Meck 02-17-2024 09:21 PM
Sneed's money years can easily be staggered to avoid Mcduffie's.

BigRedChief 02-17-2024 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Shag (Post 17408252)
McDuffie has 3 more years on his rookie deal, the two are completely independent of each other. Unless something drastically changes with his play, KC is going to pay McDuffie regardless what happens with Sneed.
Do the math. Tag Sneed. Both play this year. 1 more year you can tag Sneed. That’s 2025. McDuffie has one year left.

You are paying at least 4 years of the contract. You can’t pay both. One must walk or be traded.

Shag 02-17-2024 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17408258)
Do the math. Tag Sneed. Both play this year. 1 more year you can tag Sneed. That’s 2025. McDuffie has one year left.

You are paying at least 4 years of the contract. You can’t pay both. One must walk or be traded.
Why are you tagging Sneed twice? That's not going to happen.

BigRedChief 02-17-2024 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Shag (Post 17408252)
McDuffie has 3 more years on his rookie deal, the two are completely independent of each other. Unless something drastically changes with his play, KC is going to pay McDuffie regardless what happens with Sneed.
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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17408257)
Sneed's money years can easily be staggered to avoid Mcduffie's.
No team that I can remember, paid full price for 2 all pro corners on the same team in the salary cap era for a reason. Okay you haven’t shut down corners and you are paying full freight for them. You have the highest paid QB in the league. You don’t think the team will have to sacrifice talent in other parts of the team?

bigjosh 02-17-2024 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17408258)
Do the math. Tag Sneed. Both play this year. 1 more year you can tag Sneed. That’s 2025. McDuffie has one year left.

You are paying at least 4 years of the contract. You can’t pay both. One must walk or be traded.

Who is advocating tagging sneed twice? If we sign him to a 4 year extension he will be in the last year of his deal on the first of mcduffies extension (first year always the cheapest)

The math almost works out perfectly to roster both for the next 4-5 years.


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AusChief 02-17-2024 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17408147)
Cut omenihu and use that money for Chris ?
That’s the way I read it. We save over 7M. We simply can’t afford to have our 6th most expensive player miss the whole year. Or 90% of it. Of course it’s harsh but championships are razor thin margin. .

Either way you can basically take it to the bank that we told him he’s probably out or the restructure just pushes back his current cap hit back a year

Dunerdr 02-17-2024 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17408262)
No team that I can remember, paid full price for 2 all pro corners on the same team in the salary cap era for a reason. Okay you haven’t shut down corners and you are paying full freight for them. You have the highest paid QB in the league. You don’t think the team will have to sacrifice talent in other parts of the team?
Don’t tag him at all and stagger the contracts. It’s that simple. Definitely don’t tag him twice.

BigRedChief 02-17-2024 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17408307)
Don’t tag him at all and stagger the contracts. It’s that simple. Definitely don’t tag him twice.
you’ll have over $100 million of our cap committed to 2 CB’s and the QB.

bigjosh 02-17-2024 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17408363)
you’ll have over $100 million of our cap committed to 2 CB’s and the QB.

WHERE THE **** IS THIS THOUGHT COMING FROM?

THEY ARENT BOTH GETTING HUGE MONEY IN THE SAME YEARS.

WE ARE 3 YEARS AWAY FROM A MCDUFFIE EXTENSION


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