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BigRedChief 04-20-2021 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15636343)
No one is trading two first rounders for the guy and giving him a big money contract. If they were, that would already be done.

if we are tracing 2 1sts why not go up and draft one of the top LT’s?

In58men 04-20-2021 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 15637162)
if we are tracing 2 1sts why not go up and draft one of the top LT’s?

Because rookies aren’t proven players. Brown has an incredible resume for the short time he’s been in the league.

htismaqe 04-21-2021 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 15636240)
I'm open to being persuaded, but isn't Browns biggest weakness pass pro?

Seems like a poor fit here at first glance

I'm not real big on trading up either, assuming Jenkins is there for us at 31... I know you're not big on him, but he fits our scheme best I can tell and will presumably make it to us without trading up

Honestly, that's the wrong way to look at it.

Brown really doesn't have any "weaknesses". He's an above average NFL tackle, on both sides of the line.

His "strength" is run blocking but he's a plus pass blocker.

htismaqe 04-21-2021 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15636257)
Or or they can trade him to another team. Get picks. And not help out their biggest road block to the superbowl.


Crazy. I know.

Of course they could. But if the Chiefs make the best offer, they're not going to say no just because they're worried about seeing them in the playoffs. No NFL team operates on fear.

htismaqe 04-21-2021 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15636293)
It's not about being scared. It's about being smart. If the next teams offer is anywhere in the ball park of the chiefs, why would you not take that one and force the Chiefs to take a chance in the draft? You could win 3 ways there, 1) you got picks from another team. 2) you didn't help the chiefs by giving them a proven player 3) chiefs might potentially draft a bust.

Now if the chiefs were to really offer much more than the next team, of course you take that.

Because that next team might be the Steelers, who have reportedly inquired. Or the Chargers, who have reportedly inquired.

Going by your logic, the Ravens would only trade him to the NFC, basically cutting their chances of getting a good return in half.

They won't do that.

htismaqe 04-21-2021 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 15637162)
if we are tracing 2 1sts why not go up and draft one of the top LT’s?

Because even the best tackle in this draft has question marks. This is not a great OT draft at the top. It's deep as deep can be but the blue chip quality is lacking.

I would prefer not to trade for anything, not Brown, not a rookie. Just stay put and let the chips fall.

But if they're intent on trading away valuable picks, Brown is the only option that's close to a sure thing.

Sofa King 04-22-2021 09:19 AM

https://www.baltimoreravens.com/news...ver-for-ravens


Trade Scenario Sends Orlando Brown Jr. to Colts
DeCosta declined talking about any ongoing discussions regarding a potential Orlando Brown Jr. trade, but that hasn't stopped pundits from speculating.

With just over a week until draft night, The Washington Post’s John Clayton looked at some potential trades that would make sense. Among them is a scenario where the Indianapolis Colts trade a second-round pick for Brown.


"This year's draft is so different, with more uncertainty among prospects because of the shortened college season and scouting process, that teams could be more likely to trade away this year's choices for picks in next year's draft," Clayton wrote. "That has been true with a few trades already.

"If Indianapolis doesn't draft a tackle and instead takes an edge rusher in the first round, it could trade for Brown, who has told the Ravens he wants to play left tackle — a job that in Baltimore belongs to Ronnie Stanley. Brown could be worth a second-round choice, which the Ravens could use to draft his replacement."

The Colts are in the market for a left tackle after long-time starter Anthony Castonzo announced his retirement. The need grew more urgent when Indianapolis traded for Carson Wentz this offseason.

Draft analysts have said this is a deep offensive tackle class, but do the Colts want to take their chances on a rookie? Brown is a proven commodity who has shown the ability to play at a high level protecting the blind side. The Colts currently have the 21st- and 54th-overall picks.

But aside from a report back in March that six teams have shown interest in Brown, it's all speculation to this point.

Sports Illustrated’s Albert Breer, who called the situation "complicated," said a team trading for Brown would have to be willing to give him a new deal. That's if they can agree on compensation in the first place.

While there's a chance Brown could be lining up at tackle for the Ravens this season, Baltimore Beatdown’s Joshua Reed believes the Ravens have some kind of contingency plan if Brown is traded.

"If they lose a Pro Bowl right tackle that can also play left tackle at a high level like Brown has proven he can do, even in a deeper than usual draft class at tackle, getting one capable of replacing a player of his caliber is going to skyrocket up their list of needs," Reed wrote. "Even for team like the Ravens who have a rich history of unearthing and developing players at every position on the offensive line, finding an immediate replacement that will have little to no drop off is easier said than done.

"It will likely require a swing at the position one day one or two whereas if Brown were to stay put, they could possibly wait until day three and take a developmental prospect that could essentially red shirt for year and be ready to start by 2022."

Sofa King 04-22-2021 09:20 AM

So the Ravens would trade with the Colts, another AFC contender, but not the Chiefs according to so many here. That seems odd.

The Franchise 04-22-2021 09:20 AM

The Colts are the team that should trade for him. I think he’s a good fit in their offense.

ToxSocks 04-22-2021 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15639738)
The Colts are the team that should trade for him.

So are the Chiefs.

And if you're to ask me what's more likely, the Chiefs sitting at 31 and taking w/e OL falls to them or trading for Brown, i'd wager they'd trade for Brown.

I STILL think that's the move. And if it's not, it speaks volumes on what they think of Niang.

I just can't fathom the Chiefs willingly sitting on their hands and just going, "hurpa derp, we'll just take the best OL that falls to us".

That's just not how they've ever operated.

htismaqe 04-22-2021 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15639738)
The Colts are the team that should trade for him. I think he’s a good fit in their offense.

If they're not going to trade with the Chiefs, they're certainly not going to trade with the Colts.

One could argue that the Chiefs are the Ravens biggest road block with or without Brown.

The Colts right now are a borderline threat to the Ravens, maybe slightly below them. But with Brown and the rest of that offensive line, it gives them the ability to jump over the Ravens.

In essence, the Ravens would be creating an additional hurdle by trading with the Colts. I don't see why they'd do that at all. It's even less likely than trading with the Chiefs.

The Franchise 04-22-2021 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15639752)
So are the Chiefs.

And if you're to ask me what's more likely, the Chiefs sitting at 31 and taking w/e OL falls to them or trading for Brown, i'd wager they'd trade for Brown.

I STILL think that's the move. And if it's not, it speaks volumes on what they think of Niang.

I just can't fathom the Chiefs willingly sitting on their hands and just going, "hurpa derp, we'll just take the best OL that falls to us".

That's just not how they've ever operated.

I don’t think they’ll sit at 31 and wait for a LT. But I also don’t think they’re taking one in the first either.

ToxSocks 04-22-2021 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15639759)
I don’t think they’ll sit at 31 and wait for a LT. But I also don’t think they’re taking one in the first either.

Maybe Niang IS the guy....Maybe he's the next great 3rd round pick.

The Franchise 04-22-2021 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15639761)
Maybe Niang IS the guy....Maybe he's the next great 3rd round pick.

I hope so. Just because of how much it opens this draft up.

htismaqe 04-22-2021 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15639762)
I hope so. Just because of how much it opens this draft up.

Same here.

This is a really deep draft. We could come away with like 3 new starters if everything goes right.


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