****ING ****ING ****ING HELL!!

Where's my 'kickin' dog?!?!

I don't know how you beat this... can you?

Not a lot you can do when they make every shot other than just hope they go cold as ice in the second half after sitting around for 20 minutes.

I keep saying wtf, how many 3s can they possibly make? We are a good 3 point shooting team but we're not hitting that well. Hell, we need to take some 3s. Uggghhh. C'mon, KU, at least make this a game.

Goddamn. There isn't shit KU can do about this. They're not playing terrible, Nova is just playing outside their minds.

I thought the final four record was 13.


Holy ****

The Nova players catch it and shift their feet every time they catch it. Should be travel calls

no team
In history could beT this shooting. Contested or not seems everything is going in. We are not helping things by Svi taking a jumper at the free throw line with the rest of the team still behind him.

John Goodman is ALIVE, . . . and hawking Ipads.

Yeah that's what's really ****ing us.

The one thing that doesn't surprise me though is that it's going to be a Kansas team that gives up the most 3's in an NCAA tourney game. It hasn't happened so much in this years tourney up to now, but through the years we've played so many teams that couldn't miss from beyond the arc.

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Yeah they can’t come back from this. Oh well. Winning the big 12 and final four appearance was still a good season.

Note that I use the word “appearance” loosely.

Not even running their offense

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Nova's D is having a good little bit to say about it.

It's the "Jack shit up and watch it go in championship"

It's not that Villanova is making these shots at any kind of ridiculous clip (it's 50%, which is great but not unheard of). It's that they are taking so many of them (26).

Before the game, I wanted KU to take more threes than Villanova. Figured that would be the only chance to keep up with what might be the greatest offense the NCAA has ever seen. And yet we've taken 6. Self is getting outcoached tonight in trading twos for threes.

This is the way the game is heading and everybody is going to have to adjust to the Villanovas of the world if they want to keep up.

I don't hate the approach of going into Doke early and try to get fouls on Spellman, but yeah, we need more motion and more 3's.

They are tied for most 3 point makes in a final four half. They are making a shit ton.

Spellman doesn't foul. The entire Villanova team doesn't. Your only chance is to try to keep up the pace of scoring and the only way to do that for Kansas (with their personnel) is to jack as many threes as possible. Wright has done a great job of coaching up his players to take those shots away tonight, though (and it seems Self has not done the same).

Yeah, that's because of the volume they've taken (an absurd 26), not because of the efficiency (a great 50% but this happens in games often).

That's what basketball is these days at the highest level too (Rockets take more threes than twos and don't really care about the quality of the shot itself from three). Villanova is going to almost singlehandedly push the game in this direction in the NCAA with their success these past three years (looking likely that another title is on the way).

Eh they don't average 50% from 3 either. It's worth a look.

I get the matchup, but you dance with the girl that brought you and give Doke a chance to see what he can do.

What other Final Four games are you thinking about? They're kind of at an historic pace right now.

This must be what a rape victim feels like when they're just waiting for it to be over.

But srsly, what a ****ing pummeling in the first half.

Pollard makes me laugh.

Ohhhhh, Four TWENTY!!!!!




I get it. . .

My wife: "Is Scot Pollard really that old? Holy shit. Am I really that old?"

They average 40% (10.4/26). So they've made only 2.6 more threes than you'd expect they would normally make. It's mostly a volume thing and that's simply the way basketball is heading.

Self coached by matchup in the first four games. It's why Lightfoot didn't step foot on the floor. Why not tonight?

Yeah because they are taking threes at a historic pace, not because they are making them at a historic pace. I can guarantee you many teams have shot 50% on threes at half before. The difference is they are jacking them up like the Houston Rockets and Self is allowing them to.

Villanova had 13 made 3 pointers in the first half. The most made in a Final Four game was 13.

And there's the Final Four record.

Unconscious

Nothing can be done when the other team is breaking records.

That's your assumption, but it is very un-Self-like. My postulation (and discussion) was that it was something else. Self just doesn't roll that way. To date anyway, and it would appear that this game backs that up.

Is is just me or did it sound like the horn went off before the clock struck zero? I don't think Graham got it off in time but it seemed like the horn went off early to me.

Yeah because teams in the past didn't take threes at this kind of clip.

If this is where basketball is going I don’t know if I like it.

Might as well lose in the first round if you're gonna get beat like this in the final four

Abandon the two boys. We have to shoot 3's at this point.

Yeah, the offensive boards have to ****ing stop.

Playing 'for pride' with 16 minutes left.

Kind of what I've been bitching about with the QB tailored, 'chuck it and pray' future of the NFL.

:rolleyes:

It's not just a function of just putting up 3s. In this case, it is the execution to get good looks and finding bigs that can defend the post effectively and shoot 3's.

It's hard. That's why it hasn't been done.

Yep. There's been quite a few shots where the KU defender is right in the face of the shooter and he just drains it anyway. Kind of ridiculous.

I'm sorry to say it, but Self got destroyed tonight by Wright. Him leaving Udoka out there to get torched repeatedly by their 3PT shooting bigs makes no sense (this was a problem he should have been well aware of before the game) and Wright took away our threes while he has not even tried to do the opposite. Yeah, Villanova is far better than Kansas but it's like we weren't even prepared to counter their strengths.

What the **** is Self going still trying to go inside? We are down 20, they are draining 3’s. We have to shoot 3’s to have any chance.

We need to pull Udoka out from about 18:00 left in the 1st.

16/32 from three...just ridiculous.

How good of a free throw shooting team is Villanova? I guess the only other thing to do since they won't miss three's is play hack a shack so they can only get two points while we continue to shoot threes. Try and gain a point each trip up the court.

IT'S ALRIGHT GUYS WE HAVE KEMBA WALKER ON OUR TEAM

/bundle of sticks hootie

It is. And it will continue that way until all low post play is driven out of basketball unless they change the rules.

I don't even feel like we're playing all that terrible. Just that they are hitting an ungodly number of 3's.

Yes, kcc....I know it's"the way college basketball is going"

Silvio is still a high schooler with that play.

Dude, you're the one who said this:

"It's not that Villanova is making these shots at any kind of ridiculous clip"

Go find me these games in the Final Four that you're making this comparison for . You made the claim, show me where this isn't unconscious for this level of game.

Lightfoot was playing 15+ minutes a game before the tournament started. Why hasn't he played in this game? He has the footspeed to guard these bigs and we haven't seen a glimpse of him.

There are plenty of games where teams have shot 50% from three over a half or even over a game in the Final Four (it could even be 1 for 2 or 3 for 6 or whatever). Why is it necessary for me to find them for you? It would be in the dozens.

Agreed.
Can’t really say KU is plying bad. Villanova is playing out of this world.

I've been saying for a week that something else is going on. Self has always been the guy to dance with the girl that brought him.

Yeah, sure, this torrid shooting is the coach's fault. Absolutely brilliant. can't you just acknowledge the other team is playing at an absurd level right now.

I agree fully. Turns me off more than anything else.

I was under the assumption he wasn't playing because we needed a rebounder on the court in all of those games. If it is something else, it makes no sense to me. He'd be perfect for this game and yet he's playing a guy in Udoka who can't move his feet quick enough to guard anybody on the floor.

You prefer getting embarrassed on the big stage?

Show them to me! You're so full of shit right now. This volume and accuracy? They don't exist, that's why. You're just pulling shit out of your ass.

I blame myself, I probably enjoyed that FF blowout of UNC 10 years ago too much.

Villanova is a terrific team playing a great game but that doesn't mean that Self hasn't been enormously outcoached tonight. They are a volume three point shooting team and we've done absolutely nothing to take that away and he has even made it easier for them by leaving in Azubuike who can't guard their bigs (which BTW I warned you about before the game).

Some of it is on KU. We were crawling back into it and then they got 3 straight possessions puking up offensive rebounds and they pushed it to 20. ****ing murdered the momentum.

Honestly the worst thing about this thread is KC being wrong every single game in the tournament and having an emberassing knowledge of basketball and now trolling this thread "See guys! Im so smart it's just so obvious I knew Nova would shot 60 3s and make 30 and it's all so obvious it's so easy I don't get why every coach doesn't do it".

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Show what? Some 90s Duke or Kansas team from the 90s going 3 for 6 from three in a half? LMAO

This is ridiculous. The point was that the game is evolving and that Villanova's success is predominantly about volume, not percentage.

Say what up want about KCC, but he was nails about why Doke shouldn’t have been in from the start.

Reaching the final four is quite the accomplishment, especially for this team. I could only imagine the shit we would hear if they went out in the first round. No I don't prefer they get blowed out, but they (Villanova) are playing out of their mind, it happens.

I'd point out that 'blowed' isn't a word, if I didn't think it would send BRC tah cryin in his giant pillah.

70 points with 10 minutes left good lord.

The only knowledge anybody should have needed for that was watching Azubuike play this year (and also that 3>2).

I have no idea what it is but the change was conspicuous and un-Self-like. It's purely a guess on my part that it is something else. But it's something else.

ROFL Not as much as me. I had the Aldrich abusing Handsjob as my desktop wallpaper for years.

Eh bullshit dude. You weren't clamoring for wholesale changes when Iowa State was bombing 3's. It's because Villinova is better.

My god. Consecutive stops!

I'm guessing you don't follow my posts in the NBA thread then. The three point revolution in the league that emerged with the Warriors was always going to come to the NCAA. It's just a question of math.

Alright fellas let's try to at least lose by single digits!!!!