Just another reminder that Lamar Jackson stole his only MVP from Mahomes

If the ratbirds had Allen instead of Jackson they'd probably be unstoppable. He's a running QB that can actually throw.

They'd arguably be the greatest team of all time without any weaknesses. That defense is absolutely stacked.

I wonder if their fans are rethinking that non-exclusive tag they had on Jackson. Does this season make them think he can put it together? Or does it cement the fact that he just can’t get it done at the highest level?

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I think MVP is such a bullshit standard to use in the first place. Most Valuable? How the **** do you quantify that? Someone could have an insane season but they don't get the nod because we have to figure out his "value" to the team and what would happen if they weren't there, which is absolutely asinine and arbitrary.

Just give it to the player who had the best year and did something historic. At least maybe we'd start giving it to a non QB at some point.

****ing hate the narrative around Lamar. People act like he’s the only thing the ravens have.

People acted like Lamar turned everything around. Lamar has always been a good qb when the script is working. He still continues to be suspect when he is forced into a passing script and playing from behind. And it’s amazing that against guys like mahomes, burrow and Allen who have a number of signature wins under their belt… where is Lamar’s?

I have to admit, I was nervous when I remembered this thread and realized Pat and Lamar had yet to meet in the playoffs. The opportunity was there to have a losing record against another QB. But, I'm not sure why I would ever doubt Mr. Mahomes.

Exactly, that defense still makes the playoffs. they could have any QB throwing for 3000 yards and probably make up the rushing yards.

And taking away nothing from the Chiefs defense, but do the Chiefs make the playoffs with just an average QB? The defense was already covering up a lot of mistakes by the offense just to get a 3 seed... the Ravens could have dropped a few games and would have been fine, but not so much the Chiefs.

Allen would still lose a game with stupid turnovers. He can’t help himself.

They’d just have to hope it’s a meaningless regular season game and not a playoff game.

Why is Lamar considered the slam dunk MVP? Aren’t Dak’s numbers considerably better? What am I missing?

It’s a regular season award so narratives count for a lot as well. If other things are similar or equal, it’ll go to the QB of the team with the best record or 1 seed.

Purdy has a decent argument with their record and also a 1 seed but he’ll split MVP votes with CMC like Montana/Rice in ‘87 when Elway stole it.

Dak had a good season but too many stinkers.

You know how when teams face each other competing for a postseason berth the game is often viewed as a "two-game (or, in hockey, 4-point) swing in the standings"?

If the Ravens had won Sunday and then won the SB, Lamar would have 1 SB win to Mahomes' 2, the same number of regular season MVP awards (2), and likely 1 SB MVP to Mahomes' 2.

That would've created a new narrative that Mahomes is looking over his shoulder and Lamar is as good as or even better than Mahomes ("He's on the way up!"). Not saying that narrative would be true, just that it would've been really annoying all off-season and next season.

Instead, Sunday's win was like a huge swing in the "standings," i.e., Mahomes' Legacy, helped immensely by Lamar struggling as well.

The Chiefs did it for years with Alex Smith. They would absolutely still make the playoffs with an average QB. This division sucks. The Chiefs were the only team in their division with a winning record. The Ravens were in a division with 2 other playoff teams. How on earth do the Chiefs have less breathing room than the Ravens?

When Mahomes 3 Peats there will be no arguments.

When Mahomes wins his 10th SB there will be no arguments to have.

Until then people will scream and kick and fight every second of it. They don't want it to be true. It doesn't matter - it's inevitable...