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Best22 12-25-2017 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13308219)
IMO we were getting it done as early as last year. I would consider holding the Steelers potent offense to 18 points is getting it done, but the shit offense has to score more.
I can’t blame that playoff game on Sutton.

As for the 4-3, we’ve use those looks. We basically used a 4-3 a ton vs the Raiders and it worked beautifully.

Can’t see us going to it full time. Reggie Ragland is probably our best young player on defense and he is absolutely not a fit for a 4-3. He was horrible in that role in Buffalo. Would hate to switch and waste such a good young talent.

The playoff performance by the defense last year was poor. They forced one punt. They got pushed around. Pushed all over the field

I'm sure the defensive players would be the first to tell you how upset they were with their own play. It was maddeningly bad defense vs the Steelers in the playoffs and it cost us the game as much as the offensive failures

GloryDayz 12-25-2017 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 13308089)
Bob Sutton didnt leave with a sad state of a pass rush and suspect linebacking John Dorsey did.

Sutton keeps dropping Houston into coverage, he's the only man on earth who thinks that's a good idea, when it is in fact ****ing stupid. He's the only man alive who thinks Houston is better, on balance, in coverage than Houston getting some level of pressure...

GloryDayz 12-25-2017 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Servant_KC (Post 13307768)
Chiefs fans are more about the feel good stories and bullshit than that are about the playoffs.

See all the bullshit about wanting to cut Peters. If they would be more focused on getting better vs making sure guys like DJ are sent off on a high note. We might ****ing actually win something meaningful.

There is some truth to what you say, but I'm one on the shit-on-Peters wagon. As much as I'm all about winning, I won't/can't accept it if it comes in the form of a player who won't stand for the anthem. He has options, but not to disgustingly insult my country for a non-cause.

The rest of the stuff I'm usually pretty OK with, just not unAmerican cowards.

chiefzilla1501 12-25-2017 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 13166892)
So who do you replace Sutton with?

Gibbs?
Pettine?
Rex?

Sutton needs to go but Andy will flinch at the thought...

This year or next? If it's this year I'd rather just cross my fingers and hope he notes his success in Oakland and San Diego with a blitzing defense. I don't want a stopgap only to replace that person next year. If it's Ryan or Pettine, I'm not impressed with either of those options and wouldn't want either long term.

chiefzilla1501 12-25-2017 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 13308234)
The playoff performance by the defense last year was poor. They forced one punt. They got pushed around. Pushed all over the field

I'm sure the defensive players would be the first to tell you how upset they were with their own play. It was maddeningly bad defense vs the Steelers in the playoffs and it cost us the game as much as the offensive failures

Its really hard to scheme around Terrance Smith and ramik Wilson as your best ILBs. Our front 7 was annihilated last year. Lost 4 of our 7 (Bailey, Howard, dj, mauga). Can't get upset about last year. This year while personnel could be better, the biggest flaw is scheme.

O.city 12-25-2017 10:01 PM

Defense has been pretty good down the stretch

Had a few shitty games though

Best22 12-25-2017 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13308269)
Its really hard to scheme around Terrance Smith and ramik Wilson as your best ILBs. Our front 7 was annihilated last year. Lost 4 of our 7 (Bailey, Howard, dj, mauga). Can't get upset about last year. This year while personnel could be better, the biggest flaw is scheme.

I agree, but to say it was "good" defense is a stretch.

chiefzilla1501 12-25-2017 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 13308306)
I agree, but to say it was "good" defense is a stretch.

In years past? Our defense was better than good. Oakland and San Diego? Very good. Much of this defense, yeah, totally different story. Not very good. We didn't do bad last year against Pittsburgh given the defensive personnel.

Willie Lanier 12-25-2017 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 13308250)
There is some truth to what you say, but I'm one on the shit-on-Peters wagon. As much as I'm all about winning, I won't/can't accept it if it comes in the form of a player who won't stand for the anthem. He has options, but not to disgustingly insult my country for a non-cause.

The rest of the stuff I'm usually pretty OK with, just not unAmerican cowards.

Take that shit to DC...

The main forum is about football

GloryDayz 12-25-2017 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Servant_KC (Post 13307768)
Chiefs fans are more about the feel good stories and bullshit than that are about the playoffs.

See all the bullshit about wanting to cut Peters. If they would be more focused on getting better vs making sure guys like DJ are sent off on a high note. We might ****ing actually win something meaningful.

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Originally Posted by Willie Lanier (Post 13308401)
Take that shit to DC...

The main forum is about football

I was addressing the comment. Bite me!

Reerun_KC 12-25-2017 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Willie Lanier (Post 13308401)
Take that shit to DC...



The main forum is about football



Shut up

Willie Lanier 12-25-2017 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 13308408)
I was addressing the comment. Bite me!

Well hell, it is Christmas, but cmon man...

Keep political shit in the political thread, don't tarnish the purity of good ol' football talk in the lounge...

Reerun_KC 12-25-2017 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Willie Lanier (Post 13308420)
Well hell, it is Christmas, but cmon man...



Keep political shit in the political thread, don't tarnish the purity of good ol' football talk in the lounge...



You’re funny.

Willie Lanier 12-25-2017 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Servant_KC (Post 13308415)
Shut up

What?

Reerun_KC 12-25-2017 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Willie Lanier (Post 13308423)
What?



Sarcasm. Merry Christmas!


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