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We constantly hear about equal rights. If that is the case this instance should be treated just like if a NFL player got into it with a dude at a bar. Would that of went this far? While I am not a black man. If I were drunk, called the n word and slapped in my face I might understand what he did. |
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lmbo Pitt doing good work white knighting for a woman beater ITT
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Hope the Browns continue for another 30 years of dumpster fire, and Kareem Hunt kicks a man on the ground and we have to ask ourselves if he should be cut again, then we find out it's Tom Brady he is kicking and we award him Brady's 6 Super Bowl rings.
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I guarantee his new entourage will have two gigantic dudes with one job. |
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Today's culture of sensationalism over any topic is getting REALLY REALLY tiresome. |
I figured he'd go to the Browns or the Bears because of the ex Chiefs at both stops. Indy was another possibility. Not surprised that he'd want to play in his hometown.We'll see if he can keep his Johnson out of trouble.
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Ironically he kicked the girl in Cleveland...
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I’m not defending Hunt’s actions.
But I’ve seen more “violence” at some wedding dances, high school parties and even hockey arenas where women were at the heart of the dispute. I can’t see a harsh suspension coming. |
Lol �� at the haters here on CP that thought KH career was done. I thought KH would end up here in Chicago, but surprise. Good for KH. Hope things go well for him. As for a PR nightmare the Chiefs??? That’s what we have been watching for the past two weeks on every sports outlet: the annual TB12 suck off. It started at the final gun of the Super Bowl. Players lining up to blow TB12 in front of the female interviewer, who was also on her knees. You say Chiefs outside of KC and everyone says “ you guys suck in the playoffs.” That’s a PR nightmare. I got a female Bears and a disgruntled Colts fan(tho all women love TB12) decorating my desk with TB12/Goats on the Monday after. That’s a nightmare. I don’t get when the Chiefs got all high and morally mighty??? Must have been after Lamar died because I remember when we had Bam Morris. I don’t watch football on Sundays looking for a role model. I would like to see a Chiefs Super Bowl win before I die and I’m almost 50. I don’t care if we run the Gridiron Gang out there on Sundays on Chief
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Calling him a woman beater is a reach, especially for that "kick". |
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I hope he dies before we win the Super Bowl now
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He's not a woman beater. |
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And you don't know what he is or isn't. He's sure not too worried about putting his hands on a female in the video, |
He committed battery at the very least.
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Hunt being in Cleveland is not an ideal scenario though. |
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The reality is charges wouldn't be filed 99% of the time as they both were the aggressor. She actually hit him first and in the eyes of the law there is no male and female in that scenario. |
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Can you not see how this might be a difficult thing for the organization to accept? This isn't some casual lie, and this isn't some isolated incident, and this isn't a team that's had a squeaky clean reputation up until this point. For that reason, they'd never get the benefit of the doubt. You can disagree with that all you want, but that's the reality you're so very keen to deny. |
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This kind of drunken nonsense is not what we need clogging up our court system. There is no victim in this. |
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actually betting odds on when he will debut for the Browns:
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If he went to the Raiders, they would still suck and we would still demolish them. This was honestly one of the worst case scenarios football wise. |
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The Faid get laughed at a lot, and I’ve joked about Gruden, but I will not be shocked if he has them competitive sooner than later. They were already starting to play better as the year wore on sans week 17. I’m not saying they’re going to compete next year, I doubt that. But if they hit on those draft picks that they’ve got, it won’t take long to potentially pass Denver and ultimately LAC once Rivers calls it quits. A lot of that rides on their QB situation too of course but I do think they’ve got a chance and Hunt would have accelerated the process. Whereas going to Cleveland is curious to me. Even if they get rid of Duke Johnson, this addition creates some questions within that locker room. What is Nick Chubb supposed to think about this? I’m sure there are some guys on that team thinking that they didn’t need to bring a guy in with so much baggage. Cleveland and their first year HC have a TON of hype to live up to and I’m not sure that this move helped that at all. |
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Lions said they passed because they wanted good people on their team.
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But I also don’t think Carr is for long with the Raiders. |
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I graduated Smegma Cum Laude.
I'm told that's good. |
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I really hate that we blackballed kareem hunt. But it is hopefully just what he needed. Though his decision to go to Cleveland makes me wonder if he actually learned anything. But he deserves a chance to prove us wrong. |
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Look at the Browns fans, jumping around and laughing and celebrating like a bunch of little school girls, as they should. They just scored a generational talent for next to nothing. I sincerely hope that who ever was responsible for Hunt getting cut plants a pistol firmly in their mouth and pulls that shit.
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I knew it. I ****ing knew it.
Well done, Johnny boy. Take a lesson, Brett; that's all you can do here. |
I feel like we should get a compensation pick for this, Chiefs do the NFL a favor and cut one of the best RBs in the league right after news came out for good PR. Then some other team gets to just pick him up for next season for cheap, while we are out of a recent 3rd round pick. Doesn't seem right.
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This is a dumb thing to meltdown over. Spend 20 years on these forums complaining that RBs are overrated and don't lead to championships, and what we need is a QB, and now we're doing just that and everyone loses their mind. If this was Mahomes there'd be a valid point here. But to sit here and use words like "generational talent" like the guy is Barry Sanders or Walter Payton is just way overdramatic. Hunt's a talented guy though and hopefully he's truly changed as a person.
Dude has multiple incidents that are being investigated and he lied about them on top of it. We have an all world offense, the best QB in the world and a coach who has a long history of finding All Star level running back talent. Draft another RB and get to work. If the Chiefs fail it's because Mahomes got hurt or Veach never fixed the defense. |
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There's acknowledging the fact that public opinion actually matters and has influence on the value of a business and needs to be considered. AND There's letting the media - and by extension public opinion - entirely influence every decision you make ("run your franchise," as you would say). Clark Hunt has a business. One of his employees lied to him. Not about a minor infraction, but about something quite serious and something that could certainly impact the value of said business. That same employee also had a couple other similar incidents in just that offseason alone. If this isn't the NFL and we're not fans who are desperate for a Super Bowl, does anything about this make Clark Hunt really seem like a man who has ceded operational control of his franchise to the media mob? |
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The NFL NEVER asked us to let go of the best runner of the league for free. It was a PC move aimed at earning us some general consensus and to please the media, so we already got AMPLE compensation. Sure, you don't win Superbowls out of PC and general consensus, but that's an altogether different matter, and one that don't seem so high on the priority list of whoever decided to "donate" the top running back of the league to some other team. I'm not questioning Mahomes being a generational talent, but matter of fact his stats have changed quite a bit since Hunt is gone. Williams is a good running back, but not one you need to plan and double against. That's why he made good numbers, and something that should be remembered every time we will see linebackers blitzing with DB playing man to man next year, same as the pats did on the AFCCG, because there was no Hunt to look out for. We all know next year stats for Mahomes won't be the same as this year, and we will basically have a one-dimensional offense, with an average running back who can run for a fair gain here and there thrown in for good measure. Given our offensive line, a RB who can make yards after contact (which Williams is not) is worth his weight in gold. This stupid decision to release Hunt is one that will come back to bite us when it hurts the most, same as it did in the AFCCG this year. Hope (and think) the "new" defense can make up for that, nonetheless letting Hunt go is something we will regret for a long time. Quote:
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Clark Hunt is a ****ing idiot. He’s lucky he landed Mahomes or this franchise would still be mediocre at best. That’s my opinion and all I’m going to say because I already melted down over cutting him before 24 hours even passed. I wish we had a better owner.
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Even thinking that way shows a mentality that seeks to placate and conduct damage control instead of handling the situation in a more nuanced, aggressive, and strategic manner. You're going to sit here and tell me that the man and franchise who can walk to a podium on a weekly basis and spout "day to day" ad-nauseum to a press that just rolls its eyes and goes about its business can't perform a similar action regarding Hunt? Of course he could. If he wanted to, that is. And there isn't a damned thing the press could or would do about it. And as the big plays, TD's, and wins continued to pile up, the story of Kareem's private indiscretions fade out. This is the way of things, the way of winning teams in the NFL. You know this, and I shouldn't even have to explain it. What this was, was a reactionary, hasty, and ill thought out action on the part of the Chiefs, and it cost them for the remainder of the 2018 season. Period. End of story. At the end of the day, there are two things and two things ALONE that give this cluster**** a pass of grace: 1) The player in question was a running back. A talented running back, but a running back nonetheless. This position is not vital to our efforts, the position can be easily replaced, and Andy Reid has a good history of finding said position. 2) This event occurred well before the 2018 AFCCG and subsequent loss, and therefore occurred before Clark and Reid had their "come to Jesus"-moment regarding the reality of winning in this league, and what it's going to take to win in this league. I expect to see NO MORE of this type of bullshit going forward and so far, their actions speak to the validity of doing WHATEVER it takes to make this team a winner. |
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LMAO As if Hunt was going to play another down of football in 2018. He was going on the exempt list no matter what we did.
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It's a matter of how many downs he will play in 2019, who they will be played for, and what we get in return for those downs not being played for us. The EXACT SAME statement from John Dorsey may/should have come from Clark Hunt. I fully subscribe to the Dorsey statement when he mentions "clinic professionals". That's a sensible statement from a GM who won't pass up on a chance to improve his team while minimizing PR issues. Only reason KHunt should have been TRADED (not released) is if he was positive to CTE antibodies. I agree we don't need another Jovan Belcher as someone else said earlier on this thread. A bad temper is one thing, a bad temper associated with the possibility of a brain disease is another thing. |
We won’t have to worry about another K. Hunt incident popping up again. Imagine if they would have released the story after Wild Card weekend.
This all falls on K. Hunt... his actions.. his responsibility... |
Chiefs running back sets NFL record for most touchdowns in the 4th quarter of a playoff game in the AFCCG, yet half of CP
“We wered’ve won the Super Berl if we still had a gerd running back” Somehow unaware that Hunt wouldn’t have played a down until at least around November of 2019. |
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As for 2019 and beyond, I just don't give that much of a ****. Kareem Hunt realistically plays at most another season and a half of football for us if we don't cut him. Considering the fact that he's a RB, it just doesn't matter that much to me. We can easily find a suitable replacement, if we haven't already in Damien Williams. What in the **** does CTE have to do with any of it? He's an asshole when he's drunk. That's it. |
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Sammy Watkins was also gone for a majority of that time.
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Hahaha. Traded? For what, the right to draft Mr. Irrelevant? I would love to listen to that conference call between Veach and the other GMs in the league: “Okay, gentleman. I have a talented player at probably the easiest position of the starting 22 to replace, available for trade. He’s just been caught on video in an act of violence against a female, which is only at least the 2nd time he’s been linked to acting out violently, and he totally lied to me and the big boss about the entire incident. He’s going to be on the exempt list the rest of this year and God knows how long he will be suspended in 2019. Oh, by the way, he just got out of medical and his testing shows he’s likely to develop CTE in the next couple years, if not sooner. Let’s hear your offers, fellas” |
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As far as worrying about incidents... Some teams don't give a **** about "incidents", get the players back on the rosters after the suspension, and finally use them to win AFCCG and Superbowls (Edelman). Other teams release top players after incidents (and lose). After all, it all boils down to how much "desperate" you are to win, and if you are ready to push the boundaries to do it. You want to establish a "dinasty" like the Pats, you have to act like the Pats. Wins must come before everyting else, no "ifs" and "buts" there. Then let the rest of the country and the media hate you. Winning mentality. When you win multiple superbowls there are be plenty reasons for being hated, and if there are none they will find one, besides not releasing an ill tempered player who got a suspension for brushing a bitch in the butt, who called him a n..... |
Step 1: kill Kareem Hunt
2. Test his brain for CTE 3. Bring him back to life If he has CTE we obviously trade him. WHY CANT CLARK HUNT FIGURE THIS SHIT OUT!? |
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Which means you don't have to go out and spill the beans like that. If someone's interested they will take their their steps to evaluate if the player is healthy, mentally and otherwise. You don't buy a player like a pair of shoes. And are you aware how many players who are positive keep playing and being traded ? Being positive doesn't mean you are "likely" to develop the disease, it's just a marker. Let's be honest and face the reality of facts, and how things are dealt with in the NFL, below the surface. Do you really believe no one would be interested in trading for KHunt for "lying" (besides the "terrible incident" (which is totally irrelevant in this scenario, as we've all seen much worse, and players keep playing) ? |
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