Daikan equipment are POS. Them and McQuay are the worst two manufacturers of large chillers bar none.

I think "normal" people rent. They just get mad when the landlord tells them that he is going to raise the rent.
Most people do not own.

On the biggest HVAC unit I replaced, it had the variable speed motor. One advantage to it over the old system was how much quieter it is. As another poster had said, when it is running on the lowest speed, I can't hear the thing running.

On the second system, for our upstairs, I went with the 2 speed setup. Even when the kids are home from school visiting and the AC seems to be on all the time, it stays on low speed the majority of the time.

With the combination of the efficiency of the new systems and the new fan setups, my AC bills dropped over a $100 a month at the peak summer months heat last year.

I do have some wiggle room, but not much. We're pretty tight on margins & my jobs are tracked by profit so if I'm not making enough I won't get commission & if it happens enough I'm probably going to hear about it. If anything I'm usually adding to book prices to account for site issues. Generally speaking I only come down if there's some justification for it in the job. (like they don't need heat in their electric furnace so I can cut out the heat pack price)

The one thing I can recommend is if they offer financing ask if they do a cash discount. Despite what they tell you free financing isn't free, the company is paying for it & they're adding that cost onto your quote. If you aren't going to use the financing a lot of places will give you that money back if you know to ask for it.

My biggest selling point on the VS fans is noise reduction & humidity control. (by moving air slower across the coil it removes more humidity per pass) Energy savings are nice but they don't generally equal a lot as the blower doesn't use a ton of electricity, and you also have to consider you now have a very expensive blower motor in there & if it goes out any savings you made will go into the repair.

The noise reduction due to running in low speed is super nice, but you also have to consider that on extreme temperature days it's going to have to run at a higher speed so it will still make close to the same noise at that point.

Thanks so much for everything SC, super helpful!

You don't want to know the estimate on replacing all of the windows in my house.

When we were shopping we left with the impression that we definitely needed more than 3 quotes. A lot of schmucks out there and quotes were absolutely all over the place. We had dolts quoting us in the 20s.

In January of 22' We got

Lennox 4 ton 2-stage furnace, 96% AFUE, GAS
Lennox 4 ton 2-stage 18 seer AC, Electric
New 50 Gal water heater, Gas
Whole home Humidifier,
Ecobee Thermostat
Maintenace agreement (for whatever that's worth)

We paid almost 13K, but I'm confident that it could be done on the cheap. For what it's worth we felt comfortable with the group that did the installation.

35k

Hurry up and tell!!! The suspense is killing me!!!

I’m going to guess $135k.

Nuh uh :bolt:

I'm going to guess

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I’ll see your million and raise you another.

I said you don't want to know.












But ya......