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Mecca 02-27-2024 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Womble (Post 17418949)

It's amazing how a company will pay you basically 1% of the surplus value they get out of you and then you got ****ers bitching about time theft.

This is why we have no worker solidarity, this is why things are ****ed, half the workforce would rather shit on other workers than unify for better conditions for everyone.

loochy 02-27-2024 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 17417961)
People still work from home go in to the office just for the sake of being in the office when all tasks can just as easily be done from home without waste from travel or facilities footprint?


FYP

DaFace 02-27-2024 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Womble (Post 17418949)

Counterpoint: I'm highly productive and, while I don't necessarily work 40+ hours per week every week, I am definitely a lot closer to 40 than 20. I've been at my job at 3 years, gotten a promotion every year since I've been here, and am now being paid about 80% more than I was when I joined. Meanwhile, I have someone on my team who was hired a month after me and into the same role, and they haven't been promoted once. They seem fairly capable, but that little green dot in Slack sure is off a lot.

Obviously, I've been fortunate, but slacking off can have hidden costs as well.

LoneWolf 02-27-2024 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 17418914)
Bro...just bro...A salary job is a salary job. It's not by the hour.

It's a full-time job. If you are only "working" 20 hours per day, it's my job to make sure I give you more work to do. The only way I know to monitor that for somebody who is working from home is to use whatever tools I can to monitor their actual time working. As others have shown, it might be easy to appear that you are online working when you aren't, but I don't have another avenue available to me right now instead of taking away the work from home option, which I do not want to do. I have one engineer that works for me that lives in Belgium. I'm not going to ask him to move to the US.

LoneWolf 02-27-2024 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Womble (Post 17418919)
Don't give me that bullshit you pathetic corporate lackey who self identifies as a "leader". Your standard response on this forum to someone offending you is to unironically challenge them to a fight at arrowhead. Don't try and pull this crap about you being a wonderful, understanding boss. You're a grubby, snivelling bottomfeeder who has nothing better to do than spy on the unfortunate people who happen to work under you. You should only be concerned with how well they are doing their job and if their output is up to scratch. The fact that you seem to take pride in watching them like a voyeur hawk shows how shitty your and your workplaces attitude is.

Show me anyone with the exception of Clay when I was very drunk one night about 8 years ago who I challenged to a fight. You have me confused with someone else.

A boss monitoring their employee's work is not wrong. Again, I'm not hounding people if they don't show a full 40 hours of work and the work they have been assigned is done at a satisfactory level. I'm looking for the people only working a few hours a day and then if the work they have been assigned is getting done to my expectations, I will assign them more work. This is mostly engineering project work and as one project winds down the workload always decreases. Most people aren't going to voluntarily speak up stating they need more work so this method is a good way to monitor that.

Bearcat 02-27-2024 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17419008)
Counterpoint: I'm highly productive and, while I don't necessarily work 40+ hours per week every week, I am definitely a lot closer to 40 than 20. I've been at my job at 3 years, gotten a promotion every year since I've been here, and am now being paid about 80% more than I was when I joined. Meanwhile, I have someone on my team who was hired a month after me and into the same role, and they haven't been promoted once. They seem fairly capable, but that little green dot in Slack sure is off a lot.

Obviously, I've been fortunate, but slacking off can have hidden costs as well.

Yep, all of these discussions come down to managing your career effectively.

I see posts in a couple places on reddit asking about working from a different company or things like OP, and the answer should be the same every time... manage your career.

Obviously, there's a lot of gray area.. people have shitty managers, they can't just quit their job tomorrow, etc.... yet, they don't often actually put in the work to even have a chance of good things happening and then bitch about it to anyone who will listen.

Generally speaking, there's often more work to be done if you're lacking work. Managers aren't universally scumbags and will work with employees on things like moonlighting, working remotely, etc. And if they don't... well, either weigh the risk of getting fired, find another primary job, or **** around and find out. :shrug:

Womble 02-27-2024 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 17419020)
Show me anyone with the exception of Clay when I was very drunk one night about 8 years ago who I challenged to a fight. You have me confused with someone else.

A boss monitoring their employee's work is not wrong. Again, I'm not hounding people if they don't show a full 40 hours of work and the work they have been assigned is done at a satisfactory level. I'm looking for the people only working a few hours a day and then if the work they have been assigned is getting done to my expectations, I will assign them more work. This is mostly engineering project work and as one project winds down the workload always decreases. Most people aren't going to voluntarily speak up stating they need more work so this method is a good way to monitor that.

https://i.postimg.cc/g0g1NxP5/Screen...227-165211.png

"Hey buddy, seen you only did 20 hours this week. Come find me at the Chiefs tailgate and explain to me where all those other hours went. I'mma give you a fistful of my leadership, pussy"

Titty Meat 02-27-2024 11:01 AM

I messaged him but he never showed up

BWillie 02-27-2024 11:04 AM

If you guys know of any remote jobs for my girlfriend let me know. She got laid off 4 months ago from a marketing specialist/ project management type of role and she can't even get an interview after trying for a month and a half. Not one interview after being successful in a previous 80k a year job. Im sure she would take 60k now if it had advancement opportunities of a job well done.

As it is I wont have any health insurance past March 31st. Ill have to make sure I talk shit and only get into fights until then.

LoneWolf 02-27-2024 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Womble (Post 17419038)
https://i.postimg.cc/g0g1NxP5/Screen...227-165211.png

"Hey buddy, seen you only did 20 hours this week. Come find me at the Chiefs tailgate and explain to me where all those other hours went. I'mma give you a fistful of my leadership, pussy"

Nowhere in that post did I challenge you to a fight. I simply gave you information for the opportunity to come and call me a pussy to me in person. I know since you are a limey prick from England that you are naturally a pussy and take everything said as a threat, but if you go back and look at that thread you started in on my without provocation.

LoneWolf 02-27-2024 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17419048)
If you guys know of any remote jobs for my girlfriend let me know. She got laid off 4 months ago from a marketing specialist/ project management type of role and she can't even get an interview after trying for a month and a half. Not one interview after being successful in a previous 80k a year job. Im sure she would take 60k now if it had advancement opportunities of a job well done.

As it is I wont have any health insurance past March 31st. Ill have to make sure I talk shit and only get into fights until then.

How are you getting health insurance from your girlfriend?

Mecca 02-27-2024 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 17419013)
It's a full-time job. If you are only "working" 20 hours per day, it's my job to make sure I give you more work to do. The only way I know to monitor that for somebody who is working from home is to use whatever tools I can to monitor their actual time working. As others have shown, it might be easy to appear that you are online working when you aren't, but I don't have another avenue available to me right now instead of taking away the work from home option, which I do not want to do. I have one engineer that works for me that lives in Belgium. I'm not going to ask him to move to the US.

And this is why people slack if I can do in 20 hours what it takes another 40, I am not going to bust my chops to do extra work, I'm not going to get extra pay for doing more than the guy next to me.

Spott 02-27-2024 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 17419042)
I messaged him but he never showed up

Maybe he went to the Harry Truman statue by mistake.

Chief Roundup 02-27-2024 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 17419051)
Nowhere in that post did I challenge you to a fight. I simply gave you information for the opportunity to come and call me a pussy to me in person. I know since you are a limey prick from England that you are naturally a pussy and take everything said as a threat, but if you go back and look at that thread you started in on my without provocation.

You are a weak ass bitch. Everyone knows that is what you meant when you offered to let him know where you would be if he wanted to call you that to your face.
If you or anyone else would tolerate that kind of behavior is either a pussy or afraid that they would get prosecuted and go to jail.
Either way, you are the one that is instigating this situation.

Bearcat 02-27-2024 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17419075)
And this is why people slack if I can do in 20 hours what it takes another 40, I am not going to bust my chops to do extra work, I'm not going to get extra pay for doing more than the guy next to me.

Not with that attitude.


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