We discussed this over in the Royals thread but the thing is who knows how good the Chiefs will be for the life of these renovations. There's no way to know who's going to be doing what in the 2030s beyond. By the time these renovations come through or a new Arrowhead is built, Mahomes should be here but who knows about Kelce or Andy Reid or lots of other guys. It's like they call Lucas Oil the house that Peyton built but Manning only played like 3 or 4 years in that stadium.

It's literally the topic of the thread. I'm sure there are other more important things; I'm just not sure why anyone would be addressing them in this thread.

Boiled noodle

That has been disputed

https://news.stanford.edu/2015/07/30...icy%20Research.

Chiefs finally step up to the plate. Basically putting the ball in Frank White's court.

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I love Arrowhead, but we need a stadium with, at the very least, a roof/dome, but preferably a retractable roof.

For me, as a fan who can't afford a suite every game, other than laying radiant heating under the concrete where I stand in the winter, there is no amount of renovation or rehabbing that is going to improve my game day experience.

I will not vote for anything that doesn't include a roof, whether it's renovations or a new stadium.

I have a huge 4K television and I have decided that I am too old to do winter games anymore.

I know Clark Hunt and Mark Donovan don't care, because I am just an average fan, and I am no longer their target audience. Their audience is people making over 6 figures a year.

If Clark Hunt didn't grow up in Arrowhead, and if Lamar Hunt hadn't always said Arrowhead was his dream, the Chiefs would probably already be playing in a new stadium in Kansas.

I still love the movable roof they tried to build.

Voted for it. Would have been so great. Even though that part failed, on the ballot along with it were renovations that passed that made both stadiums amazing.

Still don't get why either team needs a new one.

The crazy thing to think about is that those renovations are damned near two decades old at this point.

It's clearly not about the facilities, it's about the luxury suites and the PSL's they can sell to bolster the purses they claim to need to remain "competitive" in the league (even if the Hunt money is a deep, deep well).

Sorry your old bones can't handle the cold anymore, geezer. It's a young man's world, and football played in the elements is ****ing awesome.

Hum MO full of folks just good enough is fine. Did not realize MO and AL R the same...

What?

Tickets are selling for $800+. People don’t mind the cold.

New Arrowhead will be outdated in 15 years just like the current one is