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MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 08-19-2019 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 14400871)
Hyde isnt getting cut tho

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Carlos Hyde has to go..</p>&mdash; Dante&#39; Jones (@Dantej21) <a href="https://twitter.com/Dantej21/status/1163187189456494593?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 18, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mecca 08-19-2019 12:27 PM

At least at RB there are options, at backup OL bringing Allen back basically means they don't trust their young backups.

T-post Tom 08-19-2019 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 14400651)
12:31 p.m. ET

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Can confirm offensive lineman Jeff Allen is returning to the Chiefs</p>&mdash; Brooke Pryor (@bepryor) <a href="https://twitter.com/bepryor/status/1163488655060676609?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 19, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Marcellus 08-19-2019 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 14400865)
Kareem started as as rookie. That doesn't happen much on the OL.

100% due to injury.

Wilson8 08-19-2019 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14400437)
I think what happened is Murray and Hunter haven't shown them shit and they may not be comfortable going into a season with Allegretti and McKenzie as your guard backups where literally Cam Erving is the only backup OL they feel comfortable with.

I think this is more about the backup guard and left tackle positions than it is about the backup center position.

In watching some practice and the two preseason games, it is clear Nick Allegretti has a long way to go before he is NFL ready. Kahlil McKenzie is doing better in his growth to be an offensive lineman but he is also a work in progress. Ryan Hunter also shows promise but maybe not yet ready.

Maybe more alarming is the backup LT Cam Erving. Last year Cam had 7 holding penalties, 6 false starts, and 2 unnecessary roughness while playing guard. If you get 6 false starts while beside the center, what will it look like when putting him outside with speed rushers? Preseason games continue to show him as a weakness that needs to be addressed. Cam Erving as a backup LT, G, or C will be the weak link.

Not saying the Jeff Allen is the ideal LT, but at 6-4 he also has long arms and at Illinois he played at the tackle position and he has played it some in the NFL.

Pitt Gorilla 08-19-2019 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14400915)
100% due to injury.

He was the #2 as a rookie. If Williams went down, Thompson could get the start, just like Hunt.

Kiimo 08-19-2019 01:11 PM

Anything has to be better than Cam Erving. People bitching about Colquitt's contract or Sorenson's contract need to look into Cam Erving's contract instead.

Marcellus 08-19-2019 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 14400960)
He was the #2 as a rookie. If Williams went down, Thompson could get the start, just like Hunt.

Im not arguing that I am arguing that after that there is NOBODY with NFL experience on the roster.

In a related note, Charcandrick West just signed with the Colts as they just put Foreman on IR.

I m not sold on there are ton of talented RB's out there to improve our roster.

O.city 08-19-2019 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14400971)
Im not arguing that I am arguing that after that there is NOBODY with NFL experience on the roster.

In a related note, Charcandrick West just signed with the Colts as they just put Foreman on IR.

I m not sold on there are ton of talented RB's out there to improve our roster.

There aren't gonna be any likely all pro RB's floating around out there.

But a guy that could come in and be adequate or put up solid numbers? Yeah, probably.

I doubt they would actually look to bring in anyone though, just go with whats on the roster.

Marcellus 08-19-2019 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14400976)
There aren't gonna be any likely all pro RB's floating around out there.

But a guy that could come in and be adequate or put up solid numbers? Yeah, probably.

I doubt they would actually look to bring in anyone though, just go with whats on the roster.

Correct because THAT is why Hyde is on the roster.

O.city 08-19-2019 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14400978)
Correct because THAT is why Hyde is on the roster.

If that's all we're looking for, there are 2 other guys on the roster that likely could do that and actually have upside to be better.


Hyde has shown the last couple years, he struggles to even be adequate.

Wilson8 08-19-2019 01:23 PM

If we were to cut Cam this year we would have $2,863,334 of dead money and would save only $302,707 against the cap.

While I was at Overthecap.com, looked at Marcus Kemp (IR) $570,000.

Also Carlos Hyde to cut would have $1,500,000 of dead money and $1,237,500 of cap savings.

Marcellus 08-19-2019 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14400982)
If that's all we're looking for, there are 2 other guys on the roster that likely could do that and actually have upside to be better.


Hyde has shown the last couple years, he struggles to even be adequate.

There is no evidence Darrel Williams is any better than Hyde. None.

O.city 08-19-2019 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14401019)
There is no evidence Darrel Williams is any better than Hyde. None.

We have a lot of evidence that Hyde sucks though.

Marcellus 08-19-2019 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14401022)
We have a lot of evidence that Hyde sucks though.

Actually you don't.

2017 he played all 16 games with a bad 49er team and had 940 yards on 240 carries and 350 yards receiving. 2016 he had 968 yards rushing.

Yea he has been on 2 bad teams since and didn't play much.

Darrel Williams will likely never total those 2 years in his career.


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