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YontsRBake 02-14-2019 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 14105617)
And their cap hits won't be that much in years 1, 2 or 3 of the new deals they sign.

They are going to go out and sign a stud safety. Veach's past behavior has dictated future results. He wanted to upgrade safety in season last year and now he has his chance with a player like Collins that played his best under Spags.

People getting up in arms about the cap is hilarious. The cap has been manipulated by countless organizations. How many players have the Saints lost? Packers? If you want a player, there's always a way.

Your logic here requires the contracts to be backloaded. Almost every major QB and WR contract over the last 3 years has been front loaded, I wouldn’t expect this to be any different.

Veach trying to get Earl Thomas last season is a different situation, that’s a one year rental that does not effect the long term cap. Any of the big name DBs in this upcoming FA pool are gonna want long term high guarantee front or center loaded deals.

I hope I’m wrong, but really think a lot of you are setting yourself up for a huge letdown.

Chiefs=Champions 02-14-2019 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14105674)
When I say overhaul this team needs to get a safety and CB, I think the rest can be handled in the draft..maybe even CB can be.

I'll say this though I'd pursue Jason Verrett for a nothing contract see if you can pull something out of him coming off injury.

That would be a great pick-up. The guy can play - when healthy..

DTVietnam 02-14-2019 07:54 AM

Speaks is sooooo slow it hurts to watch him

TambaBerry 02-14-2019 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DTVietnam (Post 14105825)
Speaks is sooooo slow it hurts to watch him

Do you think Calais Campbell is slow? Because he runs the same speed as Speaks

TambaBerry 02-14-2019 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 14105828)
Do you think Calais Campbell is slow? Because he runs the same speed as Speaks

Terrell Suggs too

loochy 02-14-2019 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 14105829)
Terrell Suggs too

And Tyreek Hill

BleedingRed 02-14-2019 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 14105828)
Do you think Calais Campbell is slow? Because he runs the same speed as Speaks

Nah bro you can not compare those speeds, nope don’t do that.....

Just dont

RunKC 02-14-2019 08:58 AM

Was there a $20 million difference in play when Speaks started for Houston for 4 games?

Keep in mind Speaks had 2 sacks in that time with a forced fumble and also would have had another if not for the stupid ass rule that has made players fear hitting the QB bc of penalty.

And yeah Speaks is slow...as a stand up backer covering in space. This guy should have never been doing that.

ChiefoftheKeyboard 02-14-2019 09:10 AM

Speaks was playing completely out of position. They had Kpass playing OLB too at 6'7 290 lbs. That just shows how much sutton left his guys out of position. I expect both of them to have significant improvement. With a new/better DL coach and another offseason in an NFL weight lifting program speaks will be good

oldman 02-14-2019 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 14105618)
Houston's great games were few and far between last year. There's no way you keep him at the current number and it would take a substantial salary reduction to see him on this roster.

I'd agree we should pursue some kind of reduction, but Houston is a more complete player than Ford.

Skyy God 02-14-2019 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefoftheKeyboard (Post 14105946)
Speaks was playing completely out of position. They had Kpass playing OLB too at 6'7 290 lbs. That just shows how much sutton left his guys out of position. I expect both of them to have significant improvement. With a new/better DL coach and another offseason in an NFL weight lifting program speaks will be good

To be fair to Sutton, he didn’t draft 2 4-3 ends to play 3-4 OLB.

ChiefoftheKeyboard 02-14-2019 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 14105961)
To be fair to Sutton, he didn’t draft 2 4-3 ends to play 3-4 OLB.

Ya, but it's also not fair to speaks and kpass to say they suck bc they were playing out of position. I guess my point is I think the plan all along was to switch to a 43 defense. I think we have more options at DE than it may seem like.

Flying High D 02-14-2019 09:45 AM

Need more info on this Berri?

RunKC 02-14-2019 09:52 AM

Probably save some good money with these moves

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">They can also save around $2M moving on from Eric Murray. I think I&#39;d go that route first.</p>&mdash; Carter Kellogg (@CarterKellogg) <a href="https://twitter.com/CarterKellogg/status/1095893133588684800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 14, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

htismaqe 02-14-2019 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefoftheKeyboard (Post 14105996)
Ya, but it's also not fair to speaks and kpass to say they suck bc they were playing out of position. I guess my point is I think the plan all along was to switch to a 43 defense. I think we have more options at DE than it may seem like.

THis.


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