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Direckshun 06-01-2021 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15692361)
Um, there's no balance here at all.

Every thread you start lately is tinged with doubt and worry.

Shrug.

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=338474

htismaqe 06-01-2021 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 15692370)

:bravo:

You have 1. Time for more.

staylor26 06-01-2021 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15692377)
:bravo:

You have 1. Time for more.

And that 1 was hours AFTER he posted this thread and said he’s comfortable with his “balance”

LMAO

Chris Meck 06-01-2021 10:41 AM

I really don't get some people.

What are the reasons we lost the SB?

1) Orange parking cones would've slowed down the Bucs pass rush better than the guys we had out there
2) Officials decided to call PI if a defensive player so much as looked at a WR wrong.

So Veach goes out and completely rebuilds the offensive line.

Now we're really worried about 'what if they play Jones at DE'.

Good lord, people.

We fixed problem #1. Can't do much about #2.

Does anybody really think that barring a rash of key injuries this isn't a team poised for another SB run? Because it is.

O.city 06-01-2021 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 15692471)
I really don't get some people.

What are the reasons we lost the SB?

1) Orange parking cones would've slowed down the Bucs pass rush better than the guys we had out there
2) Officials decided to call PI if a defensive player so much as looked at a WR wrong.

So Veach goes out and completely rebuilds the offensive line.

Now we're really worried about 'what if they play Jones at DE'.

Good lord, people.

We fixed problem #1. Can't do much about #2.

Does anybody really think that barring a rash of key injuries this isn't a team poised for another SB run? Because it is.

Well, our front 7 got it's dick kicked in as well, but that was overshadowed by the offensive issues.

They did what they could.

Direckshun 06-01-2021 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15692377)
:bravo:

You have 1. Time for more.

I think I’m just going to post what I’m going to post and you can choose to critique the posting style of an Internet stranger or you can live with it.

htismaqe 06-01-2021 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 15692549)
I think I’m just going to post what I’m going to post and you can choose to critique the posting style of an Internet stranger or you can live with it.

You go ahead and do you. I'm not suggesting you shouldn't post. If you want to whine about everything, go ahead. I'm not going to stop you. I'm also not going to keep my mouth shut, either.

We all have our things.

Direckshun 06-01-2021 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15692554)
You go ahead and do you. I'm not suggesting you shouldn't post. If you want to whine about everything, go ahead. I'm not going to stop you. I'm also not going to keep my mouth shut, either.

We all have our things.

That’s fair.

kccrow 06-01-2021 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 15692181)
Dominating now (especially on defense) is more impressive than dominating decades ago.

Maybe, if you're arguing nuances of positions but I'd argue you're wrong in this assumption.

DTs and ERs that rack up big sack totals now probably wouldn't have done the same 30 years ago when there was a larger focus on running the football. That's what makes what John Randle did in terms of sacks just a tad bit more impressive than what Donald has done, in my mind. If Donald plays as long, he surely passes Randle in sacks but he will have a lot more passing plays against him to have pulled it off. That and I think you look at the type of more complete DT you had to be at that point to stop the rushing attacks. So, the way Donald dominates is not the same and not necessarily equivalent to the past.

I think, when you look at the off-ball linebacker in today's NFL then yes, it's a harder game that requires better coverage skills and more speed/quickness than in the past. The days of thumpers that will damn near kill you over the middle and fire downhill often to attack the run are pretty well a thing of the past. Today's linebackers are dominant in different ways. You don't get to see the big, smashing hits and nasty players going toe-to-toe with offensive guards much but you do get to see a more athletic player do great things in stringing out and stopping outside zone and covering bigger TEs in space and so forth. Is it less impressive at how dominant a player was 30 years ago at the position? I don't think so. I couldn't imagine guys like Fred Warner, Darius Leonard, and Deion Jones having been the players they are now in the 70's and 80's. I certainly doubt they would have made it as linebackers.

The list goes on, right. Just different times, different player types, highly evolved offenses, etc. It's always hard to say "best player of all time" at any position. We don't really know how good player x would be in place of player y if they played in opposite eras.

The Franchise 06-03-2021 02:14 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Steve Spagnuolo said they will play Chris Jones on the outside, and it sounds as though it will be quite a bit. That&#39;s been assumed. Now it&#39;s been said.</p>&mdash; Sam McDowell (@SamMcDowell11) <a href="https://twitter.com/SamMcDowell11/status/1400517410948583433?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 3, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The Franchise 06-03-2021 02:18 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Spags, just said with Chris Jones, the amount he may slide out to DE in a given week could be determined by who the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#chiefs</a> are playing.</p>&mdash; James Palmer (@JamesPalmerTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/JamesPalmerTV/status/1400517671175680005?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 3, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Kiimo 06-04-2021 12:02 PM

This podcast with Craig, Matt and Kent talks all about this in detail




But what they say about LB is even crazier.


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I started it when they start talking about Hitchens

htismaqe 06-04-2021 12:07 PM

Not surprising about Hitchens, many of us have said the same thing. The ability to call Spags' defense in real time from the field cannot be underestimated.

Kiimo 06-04-2021 12:17 PM

I didn't like the Bolton pick and was convinced how good he is but also I thought either Gay or Bolton would eventually be Hitchens' replacement.


If he gets another contract then I have to say I don't really understand the Bolton pick when Terrace Marshall was on the board. I trust Veach and maybe Marshall's injury is bad? We'll see I guess

htismaqe 06-04-2021 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 15696819)
I didn't like the Bolton pick and was convinced how good he is but also I thought either Gay or Bolton would eventually be Hitchens' replacement.


If he gets another contract then I have to say I don't really understand the Bolton pick when Terrace Marshall was on the board. I trust Veach and maybe Marshall's injury is bad? We'll see I guess

I honestly thought Bolton would replace Hitchens but maybe they plan on playing Bolton on the weak side?


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