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In58men 02-09-2013 10:30 PM

@BreakingNews: Update: Police say they will reopen investigation that led to firing of fugitive ex-LAPD officer - @AP http://t.co/9o730jkX


They keep looking like a bunch of ****ing idiots.


LAPD: "Uh yeah, maybe we got this one wrong guys. How about we open the case back up and see if we can find Evans guilty"

In58men 02-09-2013 10:35 PM

So the lady that was shot, the LAPD gave her a new truck lol. So thoughtful.

Dave Lane 02-09-2013 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 9390185)
If I ever suffer brain damage, I'll make a point to revisit this post. It might make more sense then.

Can brain damage actually add IQ points?

CrazyPhuD 02-09-2013 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9390798)
So the lady that was shot, the LAPD gave her a new truck lol. So thoughtful.

Was it a Grey Nissan Titan? Slight used....small amount of smoke damage?

Easy 6 02-09-2013 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KC native (Post 9390774)
LAPD has one of the most antagonistic relationships with the population they serve compared to other police departments. LAPD also has a long history of stomping minorities (you can start with the Zoot Suit Riots for example).

Edit: That being said, most cops are out there just for a paycheck. Unfortunately, they generally don't speak up against the ones who are overly aggressive and are cops so they can bully, maim, and have power.

I wouldnt really argue too hard with any of that, i've also read about the zoot suit riots... but i think what gets missed sometimes is the unreal stress that the average beat cop is under in a huge, and lets be honest, VERY violent place like LA.

My mother worked for law enforcement for 23 years, i had the chance to meet many, many cops of various prominence and rank, most of them in springfield illinois, a town no bigger than 200k, and even in a town that size the stories i've heard would raise the hair on your neck, i cant even imagine all of the danger and horrible things seen by a cop patrolling some bad 'hood in a place like LA.

What i know for sure, is that when some of those guys have seen enough they get jaded and hardened, which results in the weaker, bad seed types doing the kinds of things we all hate to hear about... but you cant dismiss all of the good ones who are out there risking their lives to help keep your neighborhood safe.

In58men 02-09-2013 10:44 PM

This was just said by an CNN anchor OMFG

CNN anchor: "Is oncoming asteroid an effect of global warming"?

jspchief 02-09-2013 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9390791)
@BreakingNews: Update: Police say they will reopen investigation that led to firing of fugitive ex-LAPD officer - @AP http://t.co/9o730jkX

Is this true? I get the feeling they know people are going to start digging and they are trying to get out in front of it.

KC native 02-09-2013 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9390813)
I wouldnt really argue too hard with any of that, i've also read about the zoot suit riots... but i think what gets missed sometimes is the unreal stress that the average beat cop is under in a huge, and lets be honest, VERY violent place like LA.

My mother worked for law enforcement for 23 years, i had the chance to meet many, many cops of various prominence and rank, most of them in springfield illinois, a town no bigger than 200k, and even in a town that size the stories i've heard would raise the hair on your neck, i cant even imagine all of the danger and horrible things seen by a cop patrolling some bad 'hood in a place like LA.

What i know for sure, is that when some of those guys have seen enough they get jaded and hardened, which results in the weaker, bad seed types doing the kinds of things we all hate to hear about... but you cant dismiss all of the good ones who are out there risking their lives to help keep your neighborhood safe.

That's horseshit. Most cops never even have to draw their gun in the line of duty.

My mother's side of the family are cops (my grandfather for 40 years, my uncle and aunt retired from KCPD, my step dad). I grew up around the PD. I've been in the KCPD helicopter, I've met the canines, my uncle did crime scene investigation). I know cops pretty well (it's saved my ass on more than one occasion).

Being a police officer is not a high stress job unless you make it one.

Edit: KC is also a very violent place.

GloryDayz 02-09-2013 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9390820)
This was just said by an CNN anchor OMFG

CNN anchor: "Is oncoming asteroid an effect of global warming"?

Sure.... Ass is the rather spicy gas that's flying out of my ass! ****ing Al Gore!

In58men 02-09-2013 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 9390824)
Is this true? I get the feeling they know people are going to start digging and they are trying to get out in front of it.

Here's the link, only because I love you.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/09/us/lap...Most+Recent%29

Easy 6 02-09-2013 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KC native (Post 9390825)
That's horseshit. Most cops never even have to draw their gun in the line of duty.

My mother's side of the family are cops (my grandfather for 40 years, my uncle and aunt retired from KCPD, my step dad). I grew up around the PD. I've been in the KCPD helicopter, I've met the canines, my uncle did crime scene investigation). I know cops pretty well (it's saved my ass on more than one occasion).

Being a police officer is not a high stress job unless you make it one.

Well no, it certainly isnt horseshit, i'll take your word for what you say but dont tell me i dont know what the hell i'm talking about.

No most cops dont have to pull their pistol, but i've heard many tales of someone else trying to pull their gun on them in a scuffle, or dealing with some bs code of silence while trying to solve a murder, or seeing how people raise their kids up close, eight year old kids with custom t-shirts that say on the back "i aint afraid a no po-po" hell one guy i met who was from a bad neighborhood and chose to live there after becoming a cop had his daughter gangraped... so **** you for calling bs on the fact that many of those guys see and deal with some bad stuff every single day.

It will harden a man and make him very aggressive.

KC native 02-09-2013 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9390839)
Well no, it certainly isnt horseshit, i'll take your word for what you say but dont tell me i dont know what the hell i'm talking about.

No most cops dont have to pull their pistol, but i've heard many tales of someone else trying to pull their gun on them in a scuffle, or dealing with some bs code of silence while trying to solve a murder, or seeing how people raise their kids up close, eight year old kids with custom t-shirts that say on the back "i aint afraid a no po-po" hell one guy i met who was from a bad neighborhood and chose to live there after becoming a cop had his daughter gangraped... so **** you for calling bs on the fact that many of those guys see and deal with some bad stuff every single day.

It will harden a man and make him very aggressive.

I'm guessing you've lived a privileged life.

If you live in any type of lower class neighborhood, you experience the same thing. The difference is that you don't get to clock out. The Cops do.

Here is the FBI data for Officers killed in the line of duty. Note the small number. Being a police officer exposes people to the same thing social workers see everyday. No one makes the argument that social workers have one of the most stressful jobs due to what they see. Why should a cop be excused for bad behavior due to a "stressful" job when we don't make the same exceptions for social workers, fire fighters, etc?

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Officers Feloniously Killed
This page provides information about duly sworn city, university and college, county, state, tribal, and federal law enforcement officers who were feloniously killed in the line of duty during 2011 and who met certain other criteria (e.g., they had full arrest powers; they ordinarily wore a badge and carried a firearm).

Overview
• In 2011, 72 law enforcement officers were feloniously killed in the line of duty.
• Of the officers feloniously killed, 50 were employed by city police departments, including 13 who were members of law enforcement agencies in cities with 250,000 or more inhabitants.
• Line-of-duty deaths occurred in 30 states and Puerto Rico.
• By region, 29 officers were feloniously killed in the South, 21 officers in the
Midwest, 10 officers in each the Northeast and the West, and 2 officers were
feloniously killed in the U.S. territory of Puerto Rico.


Victim profile
• The average age of the officers who were feloniously killed in 2011 was 38 years
old.
• The slain officers’ average length of law enforcement service was 12 years.
• Of the 72 officers slain in 2011, 69 were male, and 3 were female.
• By race, 68 of the victim officers were white, 3 were black, and 1 was American
Indian/Alaskan Native.

Circumstances
• 23 officers were killed during arrest situations.
• 15 officers died in ambush situations.
• 11 officers were slain during traffic pursuits or stops.
• 9 officers were killed during tactical situations (barricaded offender, hostage
taking, high-risk entry, etc.).
• 7 officers were murdered answering disturbance calls.
• 5 officers were slain while investigating suspicious persons or circumstances.
• 1 officer was killed while conducting investigative activity (surveillance, search, interview, etc.).
• 1 officer was killed while transporting or maintaining custody of a prisoner.


Assignments
• 49 officers who were slain in 2011 were on assigned vehicle patrol.
• 11 officers were assigned to other duties, such as special assignments or
undercover, when they were murdered.
• 11 of the slain officers were off duty but acting in an official capacity.
• 1 of the slain officers was on foot patrol.
• 43 on-duty officers slain in 2011 were assisted at the time of the attacks.
• 18 on-duty officers were alone and unassisted at the time of the incidents.

Anecdotes of ****ed up things individual police officers have seen, while tragic, don't tell us anything about being a cop.

KC native 02-09-2013 11:22 PM

And just because officers killed doesn't give all of the picture, here is assaults on police officers (2011 data from the FBI).

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Overview
In 2011, the FBI collected assault data from 11,944 law enforcement agencies that employed 535,651 officers. These officers provided service to more than 251 million persons, or 80.6 percent of the nation’s population. (Based on Table 65.)
Law enforcement agencies reported that 54,774 officers were assaulted while performing their duties in 2011.
The rate of officer assaults in 2011 was 10.2 per 100 sworn officers.
More information about these topics is provided in Tables 65, 66, 70, and 71.

Injuries
26.6 percent of the officers assaulted sustained injuries.
28.5 percent of the officers who were attacked with personal weapons (e.g., hands, fists, or feet) suffered injuries.
15.7 percent of the officers who were assaulted with knives or other cutting instruments were injured.
9.4 percent of officers who were attacked with firearms were injured.
22.3 percent of officers who were attacked with other dangerous weapons were injured.
Times of incidents
For the thirteenth consecutive year, the largest percentage of assaults on officers (15.3 percent) happened from 12:01 a.m. to 2 a.m.
The smallest percentage of assaults on officers (2.6 percent) occurred between 6:01 a.m. and 8 a.m.

Circumstances
Of all officers who were assaulted in 2011:
33.3 percent were responding to disturbance calls (family quarrels, bar fights, etc.).
14.7 percent of the officers assaulted were attempting other arrests.
12.6 percent of the officers assaulted were handling or transporting prisoners.

Clearances
Law enforcement agencies can clear offenses by arrest or exceptional means (i.e., when law enforcement can identify the perpetrator, but are unable to make an arrest due to circumstances beyond their control, such as the death or suicide of the subject).
In 2011, law enforcement agencies cleared 91.3 percent of the 54,774 reported assaults on law enforcement officers.
By type of circumstance, agencies cleared the greatest percentage of assaults (93.0 percent) on officers during robberies in progress/pursuing robbery suspects.
Assignments
63.8 percent of the officers who were assaulted were assigned to 1-officer vehicle patrols.
17.0 percent of the officers who were assaulted were assigned to 2-officer vehicle patrols.
4.6 percent of officers who were assaulted were assigned to detective duties or special assignments.
14.5 percent of officers were assigned to other duties when they were assaulted in the line of duty.
Weapons
In 2011, 79.9 percent of officers who were assaulted in the line of duty were attacked with personal weapons (e.g., hands, fists, or feet).
14.3 percent of the officers were assaulted with other dangerous weapons.
4.0 percent of the officers were assaulted with firearms.
1.8 percent of the officers were assaulted with knives or other cutting instruments.


Frazod 02-09-2013 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KC native (Post 9390517)
This site is frazzled's whole identity. If he thinks he is slighted or insulted, he goes off the rails. Add in his limited mental capacity and you get angry frazzled.

LMAO Here's a hint - if this inbred ****ing degenerate approves of your actions, you really have hit rock bottom.

Frazod 02-09-2013 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 9390806)
Can brain damage actually add IQ points?

Let me know if you ever decide to pull your head out of your ass.


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