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Frazod 12-17-2020 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 15404070)
I think it would be a hell of a lot better without Burnham. I didn't mind her character as much in previous seasons, but she is incredibly annoying thus far. The whole "I know better than everyone" has always been there, but has been amped up to 15 in season 3. I think I've made it to episode 7, but only by sheer perseverance.

Michael Burnham?

Never heard of him.

bowener 12-17-2020 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 15404070)
I think it would be a hell of a lot better without Burnham. I didn't mind her character as much in previous seasons, but she is incredibly annoying thus far. The whole "I know better than everyone" has always been there, but has been amped up to 15 in season 3. I think I've made it to episode 7, but only by sheer perseverance.

I could swallow her attitude if she had been there for more than a year before Discovery arrived. If they had said she'd been waiting 5 years I could maybe buy it. By that time she would have learned enough that she really would know better than everyone, and her personal goals, interests, mores, and morals would have had enough time to credibly evolve.

She could have grown impatient by that time, and once the crew arrives she wouldn't want to waste her time on nicities and glad-handed blow jobs. She'd be a dick and get them up to speed as quickly as possible. Her character could have more believably straddled two worlds and two lives and thus created more believable internal and external strife. Hell, she didn't even get laid in that year waiting on Discovery, or at least that appears to be the implication when she and Book share a kiss on screen. You have to let enough time pass for her to get some true STRANGE strange.

Bowser 12-17-2020 01:49 PM

Terra Burnham is somehow worse by orders of magnitude, to boot.

lawrenceRaider 12-17-2020 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bowener (Post 15404173)
Hell, she didn't even get laid in that year waiting on Discovery, or at least that appears to be the implication when she and Book share a kiss on screen. You have to let enough time pass for her to get some true STRANGE strange.

That plot bit may be the most unbelievable thing in a show about unbelievable things.

Jamie 12-17-2020 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 15400269)
There have been cool moments scattered throughout (Voyager-J, USS Nog, Book's ship, going to Vulcan)

It's not a great sign when the cool moments are mostly just callbacks to previous series.

Frazod 12-17-2020 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 15404193)
Terra Burnham is somehow worse by orders of magnitude, to boot.

That's odd. Outside of the Enterprise crew, the only truly interesting character on the show so far was mirror Lorca.

Of course, nothing about this piece of shit would surprise me at this point. Star Trek made by people who hate Star Trek for people who don't give a shit about Star Trek. That pretty much sums up Discovery.

unlurking 12-18-2020 06:37 AM

I was really looking forward to the Georgio spinoff. Then I watched last week's episode where they went back to the mirror universe. My god, evil Tilly made my eyes bleed. I'm done. I just...I just can't anymore. What a waste. So much potential for a fun story arc this season. Instead we get a bunch of cry-babies and shitty actors. This is hands down the worst Trek property to date. I'd watch Enterprise, Nemesis, and all the Jar Jar Abrams crap back to back for weeks before I ever watch any more of this shit.

Mephistopheles Janx 12-18-2020 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 15405841)
I was really looking forward to the Georgio spinoff. Then I watched last week's episode where they went back to the mirror universe. My god, evil Tilly made my eyes bleed. I'm done. I just...I just can't anymore. What a waste. So much potential for a fun story arc this season. Instead we get a bunch of cry-babies and shitty actors. This is hands down the worst Trek property to date. I'd watch Enterprise, Nemesis, and all the Jar Jar Abrams crap back to back for weeks before I ever watch any more of this shit.

I'm currently re-watching Enterprise. That show has aged extremely well. Dr. Phlox is easily the second best doctor on Star Trek after The Doctor on Voyager (who was the sole redeeming point on Voyager until 7o9 showed up). Bones clocks in at #3, with Bashir at #4, and Crusher bringing up the rear.

007 12-18-2020 05:39 PM

These last two episodes are complete throw away episodes.

KC_Connection 12-19-2020 12:38 PM

5 episodes into S3 now and I see they are still making the same writing mistakes as before. Also, why is Michael Burnham involved/the center of every single storyline or episode on the show (for example, why did she go to the Trill home world instead of say Culber particularly in an episode sort of commenting on LGBTQ+ issues)? Sure maybe the rest of them do all suck (Saru's dinner with them was one of the worst scenes in Trek I've ever seen), but this is not how you develop the rest of the cast (which this show has badly needed to do since its inception and which it has done a terrible, terrible job of).

Burnham's ridiculous arguments and attitude to the Admiral 1000 years in the future also make no sense at all. He has no reason to trust her or any of them.

KC_Connection 12-19-2020 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx (Post 15405849)
I'm currently re-watching Enterprise. That show has aged extremely well. Dr. Phlox is easily the second best doctor on Star Trek after The Doctor on Voyager (who was the sole redeeming point on Voyager until 7o9 showed up). Bones clocks in at #3, with Bashir at #4, and Crusher bringing up the rear.

There are some very good episodes of Enterprise in there (in which Phlox plays a central role). Some really bad ones too, but it's still a redeemable show overall.

Frazod 12-19-2020 01:54 PM

Seriously, why are you guys still watching this shit? LMAO

Hammock Parties 12-19-2020 02:59 PM

GDI.

I want to binge watch this but apparently it just sucks.

Mephistopheles Janx 12-19-2020 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15407847)
GDI.

I want to binge watch this but apparently it just sucks.

Same here... I have it downloaded and ready to watch. Just can't make myself watch it.

Did you ever get around to Lower Decks?

bowener 12-21-2020 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx (Post 15407856)
Same here... I have it downloaded and ready to watch. Just can't make myself watch it.

Did you ever get around to Lower Decks?

Get shitfaced and binge Discovery. You'll laugh a lot.


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