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Easy 6 12-31-2023 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 17309167)
I know but I am afraid I also don't know how to do a proper setup or provide the right action. I've just been googling shit but I grew up fishing rivers/streams, never lakes or ponds. We never used weights or floats or any of that shit!

You should meet up with Megatron one of these days soon, I'm sure he can get you going in the right direction

Or just keep youtubing for stuff and you'll no doubt find a lot of good advice

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Easy 6 12-31-2023 01:53 PM

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Megatron96 12-31-2023 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 17309167)
I know but I am afraid I also don't know how to do a proper setup or provide the right action. I've just been googling shit but I grew up fishing rivers/streams, never lakes or ponds. We never used weights or floats or any of that shit!



Where are you fishing and what are you fishing for, specifically?


Also, give me a rundown of exactly what gear you're fishing with.

stumppy 12-31-2023 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 17309131)
I need some God damn help.

Santa got my son a fishing pole for Christmas. My son has been asking for months to go fishing. Santa knows his father fished world class trout streams in Montana and has no earthly idea how to Urban fish in Phoenix. I don't know what to use and how to rig for catching stuff here, so please excuse my likely incorrect terminology use here.

We fished 4 hours this weekend without a bite, although I'll say those around us got nothing either. Used Power bait balls and power bait worms. Son used a bobber and I tried a Texas rig setup (?) using a jig head with a long powerbait worm as the body, letting it sink and giving it some action every so often.

He still seems very interested after spending 2 hours fishing each day without a bite. I don't want him to get discouraged though!

Get some night crawlers and work your way up from that.

lewdog 12-31-2023 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17309238)
Where are you fishing and what are you fishing for, specifically?


Also, give me a rundown of exactly what gear you're fishing with.

Tierra verde lake park. Says it's stocked with trout, bass, bluegill and catfish.

Here's a video at that lake. I don't know what he's using.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRkmdW6Evn8


I have a basic fishing pole. I have been trying trout eggs and powerbait worms (they really do look like real worms!). I have no idea what I should be using or how to be using it!

Easy 6 12-31-2023 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 17309380)
Tierra verde lake park. Says it's stocked with trout, bass, bluegill and catfish.

Here's a video at that lake. I don't know what he's using.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRkmdW6Evn8


I have a basic fishing pole. I have been trying trout eggs and powerbait worms (they really do look like real worms!). I have no idea what I should be using or how to be using it!

Sounds like maybe that pond is due for a restocking, bluegill should be going apeshit on those trout eggs

lewdog 12-31-2023 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Ten Beers (Post 17309401)
Sounds like maybe that pond is due for a restocking, bluegill should be going apeshit on those trout eggs

What setup do I use for Trout eggs though?

Easy 6 12-31-2023 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 17309410)
What setup do I use for Trout eggs though?

I'd just go with a simple bobber, especially for the youngster

Megatron96 12-31-2023 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 17309380)
Tierra verde lake park. Says it's stocked with trout, bass, bluegill and catfish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRkmdW6Evn8


I have a basic fishing pole. I have been trying trout eggs and powerbait worms (they really do look like real worms!). I have no idea what I should be using or how to be using it!




urban lakes typically only get about 200 trout per stocking (sometimes quite a bit less). By the time casual anglers get there, most if not all have already been fished out by those fellas you see sitting around the ponds sitting on their buckets with multiple poles in the water.


I would head up to Dead Horse State park in Cottonwood if you want to catch fish. 3 'lagoons' about 2-4 acres each. They get stocked every week during the winter, couple thousand fish at a time. Powerbait is the standard bait there.


Basic set up is light/ultralight rod and reel, 6-lb. test nylon/fluorocarbon, 1/8th-oz. splitshot or lead weight (egg-style) about 12-16 inches above the hook (sz16).


I'm sending you a pm in case you want more info. I'll ask a couple of my urban lakes buddies if there's one that's getting more fish than the others.

BigOlChiefsfan 12-31-2023 07:06 PM

Find a decent fishing store, ask where to learn to fly fish. Dad and I learned from a co-worker of Dad's who owned a little motel in Colorado and spent the winters working in KC, FWIW, you can take the fly off the flyrod and just practice working the flyline in the street or your front yard. Good way to get accurate/learn to handle the flyline. Good trout flyrods are pretty spendy BUT for KC Metro a pretty basic panfish setup won't break the bank. You'll be happier with a $70 rig you get to use than a $350 rig that always stays in the closet unless you drive to CO/Utah. A bunch of 'popping bugs' and a 6' leader, get a canoe or rowboat and work the shoreline from 20' offshore and bring 2 stringers. Bass, perch and bluegill are pretty tasty and you can always fillet 'em, can them like you can green beans and mix the canned 'wild fish' with store bought canned salmon and make salmon patties galore. He'll grow up big and strong with that much protein.

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-16-2024 03:36 PM

Amazing how much these guys are spending on electronics!


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lewdog 03-16-2024 07:25 PM

Finally caught our first fish. Bunch of Bluegill today to get my son a taste of catching something.

myselff77 03-16-2024 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 17447088)
Finally caught our first fish. Bunch of Bluegill today to get my son a taste of catching something.

How old is your son? We’ve checked out the fish at Bass Pro shop and my son likes looking at the fishing rods there. He turns 4 in May. I’m not sure he could sit still long enough to try fishing just yet.

lewdog 03-16-2024 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by myselff77 (Post 17447227)
How old is your son? We’ve checked out the fish at Bass Pro shop and my son likes looking at the fishing rods there. He turns 4 in May. I’m not sure he could sit still long enough to try fishing just yet.

He just turned 6. Lots of bites on the bluegills today so we fished for 2 hours straight! It was awesome.

jerryaldini 03-16-2024 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 17447230)
He just turned 6. Lots of bites on the bluegills today so we fished for 2 hours straight! It was awesome.

Funny for some reason today I was thinking about how fun it was to have my kids watching bobbers. What a great time. Bluegills on their spawning beds are amazing.

CatinKS 03-17-2024 07:06 AM

Time to get out the pocket fisherman reel.

https://x.com/crazyclipsonly/status/...679342908?s=20

Sofa King 03-17-2024 08:01 AM

Those ****ers are nuts

Easy 6 03-17-2024 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 17447088)
Finally caught our first fish. Bunch of Bluegill today to get my son a taste of catching something.

Thats awesome, does he have fishing fever now?

lewdog 03-17-2024 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jerryaldini (Post 17447240)
Funny for some reason today I was thinking about how fun it was to have my kids watching bobbers. What a great time. Bluegills on their spawning beds are amazing.

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 17447465)
Thats awesome, does he have fishing fever now?

I've never fished here in AZ so it was fun for me too. We are learning as we go. The Bluegills were nice because he could get the idea of watching the bobber about 5-10ft from the shore as they were hitting the worms. Dude tries to reel as fast as he can anytime the bobber was dipping. We were working on patience and letting the bobber really go under before setting the hook. LMAO


He's got the fever but wants to try catching "other fish" now. I saw some small mouth bass jumping a bit, what's the technique for those? I am assuming baits/jigs/spinners with lots of casting and reeling? I also heard they stock these urban ponds with Catfish soon because they are about the only fish that can make it through the Phoenix summers without dying. Hotdogs and shrimp off the bottom is what I am told catches catfish which is again, something I've never fished for. Those lunkers could be really fun I bet!

Easy 6 03-17-2024 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 17447564)
I've never fished here in AZ so it was fun for me too. We are learning as we go. The Bluegills were nice because he could get the idea of watching the bobber about 5-10ft from the shore as they were hitting the worms. Dude tries to reel as fast as he can anytime the bobber was dipping. We were working on patience and letting the bobber really go under before setting the hook. LMAO


He's got the fever but wants to try catching "other fish" now. I saw some small mouth bass jumping a bit, what's the technique for those? I am assuming baits/jigs/spinners with lots of casting and reeling? I also heard they stock these urban ponds with Catfish soon because they are about the only fish that can make it through the Phoenix summers without dying. Hotdogs and shrimp off the bottom is what I am told catches catfish which is again, something I've never fished for. Those lunkers could be really fun I bet!

You can catch bass and other sportfish with a bobber too, but yeah your chances go up with lures and lots of casting to cover as much area as possible

And thats where youngsters can run into trouble, because their chances of getting snagged/stuck in rocks etc goes way up... as for the catfish what you've been told is fine for channel cat, but blues and flatheads prefer live bait or cut bait (fish head or chunk of meat)

Easy 6 03-17-2024 12:39 PM

Here are a few vids to help you out, Lew

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Easy 6 03-17-2024 03:40 PM

Lews newfound family bonding has me reminiscing about back when I took my two fishing when they were young

You get them all set up with a simple bobber and bait, but YOU wanna cast lures and try different things... well if the bluegill aren't biting, suddenly they wanna do what you're doing because it looks fun

So you finally relent and set them up to cast lures, big mistake... because the next thing you know, the only thing you're going to be doing is trying unstick your lures from bushes, trees, rocks and logs for the next hour

And at that point you're just ready to go home LMAO

If I could go back in time, I wouldn't go casting about and trying to be the Big Kahuna when I took them out... instead I'd bobber fish just like them the entire time, teaching them to crawl before they walk so to speak

No one ever said you have to let that bobber just sit in one place the whole time, slowly trawl that bait under your bobber around different kinds of cover

ChiefsCountry 03-18-2024 10:55 PM

New world record paddlefish came out of the Lake of the Ozarks yesterday. The angler from always sunny and 75 Olathe, KS
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We think Chad Williams is done fishing for the year. Maybe for life ��<br><br>Williams made history this weekend after snagging a world record 164-pound, 13-ounce paddlefish at Lake of the Ozarks! And did we mention he&#39;d never been snagging before??<br><br>More at <a href="https://t.co/gz0DuVQfvR">https://t.co/gz0DuVQfvR</a> <a href="https://t.co/BVjUYDPSSe">pic.twitter.com/BVjUYDPSSe</a></p>&mdash; MO Conservation (@MDC_online) <a href="https://twitter.com/MDC_online/status/1769764375424807313?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 18, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Graystoke 03-25-2024 05:19 PM

Sweet tat Ras!

Megatron96 03-25-2024 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 17449485)
New world record paddlefish came out of the Lake of the Ozarks yesterday. The angler from always sunny and 75 Olathe, KS
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We think Chad Williams is done fishing for the year. Maybe for life ��<br><br>Williams made history this weekend after snagging a world record 164-pound, 13-ounce paddlefish at Lake of the Ozarks! And did we mention he&#39;d never been snagging before??<br><br>More at <a href="https://t.co/gz0DuVQfvR">https://t.co/gz0DuVQfvR</a> <a href="https://t.co/BVjUYDPSSe">pic.twitter.com/BVjUYDPSSe</a></p>&mdash; MO Conservation (@MDC_online) <a href="https://twitter.com/MDC_online/status/1769764375424807313?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 18, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Nice catch.


Though I've never been able to wrap my mind around purposefully snagging fish before. Doesn't seem like fishing to me personally.


Would love to see one of those things in person someday though. Wild looking fish.

jerryaldini 03-25-2024 07:02 PM

For the small mouths nothing is more fun than popper flies on the surface in still water. With a kid setup you would just attach a casting bubble to the line to give it enough weight to cast. You make a very short quick retrieve to pop the face of the fly on the surface and create a disturbance. Wait for the wave rings to die before the next retrieve. Fantastic surface action for bass and bluegill, if he doesn't get too tired casting. Man I miss it.

Oh and of course bring your fly rod to do the same without the bubble!

ptlyon 03-25-2024 07:09 PM

When I was a teenager Iowa PBS had some outdoors shows.

I remember one in particular of the host being in a belly boat on a small farm pond fly fishing for bluegill. Poppers, flies. Man that looked like a blast.

Megatron96 03-25-2024 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 17457905)
When I was a teenager Iowa PBS had some outdoors shows.

I remember one in particular of the host being in a belly boat on a small farm pond fly fishing for bluegill. Poppers, flies. Man that looked like a blast.



Hard to find a better time than that.

HonestChieffan 05-18-2024 08:30 AM

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Easy 6 05-18-2024 10:36 AM

Life kept getting in the way the past several weeks, but I'm finally getting some fishing in later this afternoon... can't wait!

lewdog 06-02-2024 05:16 PM

I need a new basic rod and reel for fishing bass/catfish here.

All I have been using is a micro lite rod, 5'6", that I used 20 years ago for trout in Montana, and it's not handling the setups I am using down here. I think it's max 6lb line. I bought a cheap prespooled reel and it's been nothing but loops and tangles too. Not sure what's causing that here but that was never a problem decades ago?

Give me some guidance on rod/reel combo that won't break the bank!

ntexascardfan 06-02-2024 06:27 PM

The Taylor and Gunnison Rivers are my home waters in the summer months. I mainly fish the Arkansas near Buena Vista during the winter.

Here's the first trout I pulled in during my 40th birthday trip earlier this month. Click on it to watch the video. I'm heading up to Kalispell in July to float the Flathead and do some alpine fishing through Glacier.

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Al Czervik 06-02-2024 07:00 PM

Really beautiful colors on that Rainbow!!!!
Nice fish!

Graystoke 06-02-2024 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ntexascardfan (Post 17539055)
The Taylor and Gunnison Rivers are my home waters in the summer months. I mainly fish the Arkansas near Buena Vista during the winter.

Here's the first trout I pulled in during my 40th birthday trip earlier this month. Click on it to watch the video. I'm heading up to Kalispell in July to float the Flathead and do some alpine fishing through Glacier.

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I really like the Taylor and Gunnison River. We’ve spent some time camping, fishing and riding motorcycles in that area. So much fun.

ntexascardfan 06-02-2024 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 17539080)
Really beautiful colors on that Rainbow!!!!
Nice fish!

Thanks man, I was down there a bit post-spawn so they still had all their colors.

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Originally Posted by Graystoke (Post 17539088)
I really like the Taylor and Gunnison River. We’ve spent some time camping, fishing and riding motorcycles in that area. So much fun.

There's so much fun water in that river basin to fish. The Taylor and Gunnison is what gets everyone there, but I've spent countless trips out there fishing the smaller creeks and tributaries that feed into the Gunny and Taylor. If you have time on your next trip you should make the 75 minute drive from Gunnison to the Black Canyon and fish some of the browns that lurk at the bottom of it. The fishing pressure there isn't nearly as intense as the rest of the Gunnison and you can fool some pretty massive brown trout that would otherwise laugh at your rig anywhere else on the river.

Spring Creek and the Upper Taylor are awesome on the Taylor.

Cochetopa Creek and Tomichi Creek are dry fly paradises during the summer that feed into the Gunnison not too far from town.

We will usually pull the camper up around mile marker 8 on the Buena Vista side of Cottonwood Pass during the summer. It's pretty easy to pop into BV to restock food and it's about a 35 minutes drive over the pass from there to the C&R on the Taylor.

ghak99 06-02-2024 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 17539004)
I need a new basic rod and reel for fishing bass/catfish here.

All I have been using is a micro lite rod, 5'6", that I used 20 years ago for trout in Montana, and it's not handling the setups I am using down here. I think it's max 6lb line. I bought a cheap prespooled reel and it's been nothing but loops and tangles too. Not sure what's causing that here but that was never a problem decades ago?

Give me some guidance on rod/reel combo that won't break the bank!

Do you know how to use a bait caster?

I grew up on Abu Garcia reels. They have very smooth reels for flipping jigs and heavier more rugged reels for catfish. They have more budget friendly options, but the C3 reel is a very proven system and it can be found in both a bass and mid sized catfish rig. I have a box of them that have been beat all to hell and drug all over the place with several trips to Canada and they just keep going. Have several 7000c reels set up for heavier missouri river fishing and snagging, but I don't know if you have a need to go that heavy as they can be quite cumbersome if you're staying on the smaller end of catfish.

They also make spinning reels if that's more your thing, but I don't have any experience AB spinning reels.

loochy 06-03-2024 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 17539004)
I need a new basic rod and reel for fishing bass/catfish here.

All I have been using is a micro lite rod, 5'6", that I used 20 years ago for trout in Montana, and it's not handling the setups I am using down here. I think it's max 6lb line. I bought a cheap prespooled reel and it's been nothing but loops and tangles too. Not sure what's causing that here but that was never a problem decades ago?

Give me some guidance on rod/reel combo that won't break the bank!


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