Appears so. Maybe the OP could be added with this:

https://www.chiefs.com/trainingcamp/schedule

It was sometimes soul-sucking to see that, especially watching teams like the Ravens, Seahawks and Patriots do it exceptionally well.

Nice research; looks like I made some faulty assumptions there.

I remember him coming through clean a ton but gave it the wrong cause. I figured there had to be some reason that Gs weren't getting to him and it turns out that sometimes they just !@#$ed up.

He has some easy money in there but less of it as a result of those twists than I expected.

You will see more of those though, if for no other reason than we'll be in even fronts far more often. It's just harder to run a stunt when you're using an odd front, especially when one of your OLBs is a speed rusher who you'd really like to avoid getting hung in the wash.

Y'all see the clip of McKenzie coming into camp?

Man, I'm unreasonably pumped about that kid. I know we're probably still a year early on him but that dude is just built to be a lineman. He looks like he's in great shape and still has an incredibly powerful base.

I don't think he wins a job this year but I don't think it's impossible and I absolutely think he spends some games on the active roster this time around. I'm awfully excited to see what he can do because he has tools that just jump off the page and if the development is there he can be a truly elite OL.

All gonna come down to teaching him how to use his hands and maintain his base. A lot of toolsy OL have been felled by an inability to stop reaching and stay over top of their feet. That's gonna be a heck of a learning curve for him but if he can get it done, watch out.

He’s easily one of the guys I’m looking forward to watching the most in the preseason.

Dude looks like he dropped a bunch of baby fat.

Possible LDT replacement next year IMO.

What do you guys think of D-Rob as a trade candidate?

Hill, Sammy, Hardman are locks and Pringle is apparently looking really good. Then we have all these new rookie receivers plus Dieter to fill the back end.

If we need a corner, I’m sending D-Rob in a trade package.

It's not a good idea because Watkins is injury prone and the other guys have never suited up for a game.

That would be nice as it would save the Chiefs a ton of money.

No thanks.

D-Rob is worth more to this team as he'll be the #3 WR up, then what he'd be worth in a trade.

Every damn team in the league has unproven, talented WR's that they really like.

Which is why i find the Byron Pringle trade talk silly.

This. He’s our 3rd WR day one and he has great chemistry with Mahomes. It’s not like he has a lot of trade value either as he has 1 year left on his deal and would have to learn a new offense on the fly.

Yes , I agree Watkins’s gets injured to much not to have someone with game experience to back him up.

Honestly I think Hardman could be the 3rd receiver by mid season if he’s given a fair shot

Hope your right

He might be, but for a team that is going to lean on the offense you don't want to be in a position where you have 1 WR with game experience.

If you're looking for guys that could be traded off the Chiefs roster...

Xavier Williams
Justin Hamilton
Tremon Smith
Lucas/Sorensen

Are your most likely bets, Colquitt could go on that list if the rookie punter beats him out soundly.

I don't think that's what Reid wants.

Tyreek was fantastic stretching the defense horizontally. When Reid began using him more traditionally, having him stretch vertically, he lost SOME of that horizontal element. You obviously can't have Tyreek doing two things at once.

DaT was suppose to be that guy, and every offseason they talked up DAT's special packages, and you did in fact see them on gameday. Though he obviously wasn't quite as effective (though effective at times) and couldn't stay healthy.

I think Reid wants to use Hardman to bring back that special ability to stretch horizontally. Force defenses to respect the jet sweeps, fakes, reverses etc even MORESO than they already do by putting a true play maker back there again.

Just look at Hardman's quote the other day for example. They asked Hardman how Tyreek being back changes things for him and he answered something like, "It doesn't change anything i'm doing. Still the same plan moving forward".

My impression was that Hardman has a specific job, and it was never to take Tyreek's role in this offense, but to work on his specific role that Reid has set out for him all along.

Really depends on camp IMO. Pringle and Dieter know the offense well and are not rookies. They could show enough to fill D-Rob’s role.

I’m also curious to see Custis. That guy is 6’4, runs a 4.5 and has arms as long as a tackle’s. We don’t have any receiver like him.

Give him Kemp’s spot and see how he does in preseason. Could be a nice possession receiver.

Dieter is going to have to make the team, he would be the 6th WR.

610 just reported that Jones will report to camp today and will not hold out. He’ll play out his deal if need be. Per Adam Schefter.

Way to go, Chris!!! You’re doing it right. Let’s ****ing go.

Great post. I agree with all of this.

He’s been working 1 on 1 with Will Shields on technique for part of this offseason. They’ve shown some of it on the franchise.

He needs to get on the field this year though, or else KC is going to develop him and not get much equity value out of it and he will need a big contract before we get any ROI.

Yeah!!!!!

This is our year. Let's do it.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Update on Chris Jones: The star DL will show up on time for the team meeting at 2 pm. He’s on his way.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1154811588349767686?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 26, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per the Katz. brothers regarding Chris Jones, who is now reporting to camp on time: “He knows his value and if he has to play out his deal in order to reach free agency, then that’s what he will do. For now, he’s focused on winning a Super Bowl for Kansas City.”</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1154811246505578496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 26, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> and DL Chris Jones have talked about a deal for some time, but KC has not negotiated while Jones was away. Now that he’s showing up, talks should pick up.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1154812021633949698?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 26, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Sounds like Chiefs would only give him a deal if he showed up. Feels like if he was a me first type of guy or team first type of guy. Him showing up proves he’s a team first type of guy. Pay him Veach!!!!

He is elite!!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Highest pressure percentage, interior D-Linemen (2015-18):<br><br>1. Aaron Donald 17.8%<br>2. Geno Atkins 14.8<br>3. Fletcher Cox 14.2<br>4. Chris Jones 13.3<br>5. Sheldon Richardson 12.6<br>6. Malik Jackson 12.3<br>7. Mike Daniels 12.1<br>8. Kawann Short 11.4<br>9. Jurrell Casey 11.0<br>10. Cameron Heyward 10.9</p>&mdash; Steve Palazzolo (@PFF_Steve) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Steve/status/1154032949618184192?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 24, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That's good news. One less distraction to worry about.

He's betting on himself and it's a smart move. He goes for 15 sacks AGAIN and you best believe he's getting Aaron Donald $$$.

Clear i29! Jones is coming through!

Good post.

I think could switch around at times. Sometimes (not too often)Hardman will have Tyreek’s role while Tyreek does the horizontal role, just to mix things up.

But yeah I think the Patriots game opened I some of those flaws and teams will surely try to copy what they’ve done in the first half of both games.

I think Andy wants to get this rookie flying downfield way more than we think. I honestly like having Sammy in the slot. He’s a tackle breaker and gets a lot of YAC.

Jones really didn't really have an option anyway from what I understand

Sign him before the season starts Veach. Don’t wait or it will cost way more

I doubt he gets that many again, this coaching staff is going to ride him about being system sound.

That's what it comes down to for me. I think he benefited from being allowed to just kind of do his thing last year. I just don't think he's as important in Spag's scheme.

We'll see though.

Didn't he have to accrue one more season before he's eligible for FA? Otherwise he woulda been a RFA? Is that what you're referring to?

Good.. we’ll need every swinging dick on defense this season...

Also if he actually held out till the 6th which was as long as he could hold out for and not be a RFA, his fines would add up to almost his entire 2019 salary.

Hopefully this means he's not ass hurt and we could sign Mike Daniels without him getting pissed.

I'd imagine if the Chiefs are negotiating again and offering good money, it shouldn't matter.

I can't imagine Mike Daniels will be demanding a large contract.

I believe that is correct. He had to report by Aug 6 to accrue his service time. He had no leverage and really no option.

Anthony Sherman pulled up in Tony Stewart's Nascar then Dustin Colquitt and Buttker just pulled up in this 30 yard long armored truck

Jones and Clark together mmmm mmmm

Totally agree. I rewatched the Steelers game the other day on YouTube and it was pretty bad penalty wise. A new secondary alone should help but hopefully we can reduce it even more.

Pay the man Veach!!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is pretty significant, as it appears Chris Jones &amp; the Chiefs will have negotiations about the possibility of a contract extension. <a href="https://t.co/FCDWLoXsMZ">https://t.co/FCDWLoXsMZ</a></p>&mdash; Nate Taylor (@ByNateTaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/1154812556978151424?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 26, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mahomes milkshake brings all the boys to the yard

Sherman showed up in a Clint Boyer NASCAR Race Car wearing a driving suit and helmet with Chiefs logos. LMAO

http://bleacherreport.com/post/kansa...6-7bb992760b5e

Show off!

Quit disrupting team chemistry!!

I don't think Tyreek Hill even looked at a repoter.

He's there.

There’s a huge difference between that and pulling up in a Brinks truck and letting everybody know you’re more worried about getting paid than turning things around after a disappointing season.

Go ahead and pretend there’s not though.

Of course the driving suit is sleeveless.

Wow. What a distraction. We're trying to win the super bowl and he's pulling this shit?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Reggie Ragland has arrived to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> camp, and he’s talking chicken. �� <a href="https://t.co/XAOmwquJ09">pic.twitter.com/XAOmwquJ09</a></p>&mdash; Arrowhead Pride (@ArrowheadPride) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadPride/status/1154809490157518850?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 26, 2019</a></blockquote>
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At least Ragland looks like he lost weight.

Is that not how NASCAR driving suits normally look?

Tyreek went in the back door apparently.

:facepalm:

Hey man - I didn’t remember. I had to go look it up.

That Jones cutup was simply beautiful.

Thanks for posting, Mr. saphojunkie.

FAX

Troll much?

I’m so ****ing happy.

Football is back. We get to debate football and discuss football. Not child protection services, or grammar, or contract holdouts.

Just what kind of championship memorabilia we plan to buy.

The media isn't going to let this go, and neither are opposing fanbases.

There are going to be some real dicks exposed in this mess down the line.

He’s being sarcastic because of some of us that found Ramsey showing up in a Brinks truck as a bad message to start camp on a team that needs to turn things around after a disappointing season.

Because was Sherman did is basically the same thing :rolleyes:

Jones' gitoff is impressive and (IMHO) probably capriciously unexpected from the standpoint of an o-line fatty.

I surmise that the O-Fatties don't expect a man that big to have that kind of quickness in the first two steps. Just not used to seeing it ...

Jones is a rather unique physical specimen.

FAX

That's worth some money, right there ...

FAX

Do you mean KC media or national media?

Both.

If Tyreek Hill does anything remotely controversial on the field they will pounce.

The Sausage makes me laugh.

Another highly insightful post-thing from Mr. Detoxing.

The horizontal game is the secret sauce to this offense. A defense simply cannot cover every square inch of a football field with 11 dudes. Especially when those 11 dudes are exhausted as a laser-tag cat by the mid-3rd.

The way I see it, the plan is probably to give Hardman a dual role. Threaten with the vertical and destroy with the jet.

FAX

Is this a joke or are you really that uptight and boring?

Yup. It's the old Dante Hall/Percy Harvin gig.

It was what Tyreek was brought in to do originally, but he turned out to be far more awesome than expected. Turns out Hill is more of a Steve Smith than Percy Harvin.

Remember when Tyreek averaged 9.7 yards a catch as a rookie? ROFL

Those fines would've been waived immediately upon agreement on a long-term deal.

If they were closer, I'm betting he'd have stayed away until it was finalized. By reporting, I think he gives quite a bit of credibility to his 'threat' of just playing out the season and getting into FA.

Veach really does need to get a deal done with one of these 2 pending FAs to clear up that franchise tag. If nothing else, it allows them to tag/trade Jones even if they decide they can't fit him into their salary structure.

Tag and trade may be the likely end of this to be honest.

And Mahomes is uniquely well suited to run it.

You give most quarterbacks these weapons and defenses still don't have to cover everywhere the WR can get to because the QB can't get the ball there. But there's just not a throw that Mahomes can't make.

There's a looooooot of green out there and the limiting factor tends to be the QBs ability to get the ball to it. There's about 5,800 square yards of space out there and Mahomes can fire the ball into about 4,000 square yards of it from the goalline. Literally every square inch of that field is open for business on a simple touchback.

When you have that much space to work with, having guys that can get simply outrun people to a spot is damn near impossible to stop.